General Chit Chat

[General Mannerheim]

well im not gonna make my garden any smaller dicking about with new fencing, there are already concrete posts there and standard 6x4ft panels which are falling to bits. The neighbour we get along with would like new fences but she is renting and her landlord isn’t bothered (infact, he’s freshly dead and his family are not really concerned about my fencing plight) So it looks like im gonna have them replaced at my own expense – but am i balls giving them the presentable side!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

well im not gonna make my garden any smaller dicking about with new fencing, there are already concrete posts there and standard 6x4ft panels which are falling to bits. The neighbour we get along with would like new fences but she is renting and her landlord isn’t bothered infact, he’s dead and his family are not really concerned about my fencing plight) So it looks like im gonna have them replaced at my own expense – but am i balls giving them the presentable side!

If the fence is already in place on the boundary line, then it does sound like it's a shared boundary. In which case if they ain't paying you're entitled to whichever side you fancy.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

What do you do when you share a boundary and you wanna change your fence panels but next door don’t give a shit and wont contribute, Just lump it?

If you're my neighbour, you whack up an extension without consulting us first and without proper planning permission, ruining 50% of the peripheral view of the peaceful graveyard behind us, then just to rub it in you nail your new tressel thing to my fence, thus weakening it and making it gradually lean into my garden.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

What do you do when you share a boundary and you wanna change your fence panels but next door don’t give a shit and wont contribute, Just lump it?

If you're my neighbour, you whack up an extension without consulting us first and without proper planning permission, ruining 50% of the peripheral view of the peaceful graveyard behind us, then just to rub it in you nail your new tressel thing to my fence, thus weakening it and making it gradually lean into my garden.

Oh. It's you I live next door to. d'ya mind keeping the noise down!

[Bruce Rioja]

By the way - what's the script on lobbing up a conservatory? Do they need planning permission? I'm thinking of knocking the garage down and whatnot.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

I dont know if they do need PP but you will certainly need consent from your landlord if you're in a leasehold property.

[General Mannerheim]

you can usually get away without planning permission as long as the property hasnt had any previous extensions, and its within a cetain cubic meterage.

it doesnt cost owt to phone to council and ask the question, just to put your mind at rest.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

you can usually get away without planning permission as long as the property hasnt had any previous extensions, and its within a cetain cubic meterage.

it doesnt cost owt to phone to council and ask the question, just to put your mind at rest.

Correct. 10% of house footprint, But can't be right up to boundary, otherwise pp required.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

And ring your landlord company.

Will cause problems when you come to sell otherwise, as the deeds will likely be archaic and state no outbuildings etc allowed on the land (despite everyone else around you having them on!).

[Bruce Rioja]

I'm not sure if its leasehold or freehold, Jimmy. I do remember at the time of me buying the house - some or other archaic law about the church owning all the land around by us and we have to pay them some or other peppercorn rent.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

I'm not sure if its leasehold or freehold, Jimmy. I do remember at the time of me buying the house - some or other archaic law about the church owning all the land around by us and we have to pay them some or other peppercorn rent.

Not sure then.

My rent is £50 a year which is a bit steep considering the old house we had on Tonge Moor Road was £4 a year !

[Bruce Rioja]

I'm not sure if its leasehold or freehold, Jimmy. I do remember at the time of me buying the house - some or other archaic law about the church owning all the land around by us and we have to pay them some or other peppercorn rent.

Not sure then.

My rent is £50 a year which is a bit steep considering the old house we had on Tonge Moor Road was £4 a year !

I need to look into it. My house in Manny was about £1.80 a year - they kept trying to sell me the leasehold for about £500.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

I tried to buy some extra land behind us, just about ten feet to extend the garden.

Rang the landlord, who said the church owned the land..
(why am i paying you fifty f*cking pound a year then, was my obvious question to them)

Rang the vicar of the local parish, he said the council owned the land.

Rang the council, they said they only maintained the land.

Needless to say, i punched myself in the face and then gave up.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'm not sure if its leasehold or freehold, Jimmy. I do remember at the time of me buying the house - some or other archaic law about the church owning all the land around by us and we have to pay them some or other peppercorn rent.

Is that not just if you live in the vicinity of a church (can't remember the difference) that you are liable for any repairs to the church and therefore when you take a mortgage out a requirement is to take insurance out against such an eventuality?

Chancery repair liability I believe.

Was stunned when I saw it too.

[CrazyHorse]

Speaking of how shit the rain's been this last couple of days...

Flood water washes away foundation of flats in Newburn, Newcastle

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Speaking of how shit the rain's been this last couple of days...

Flood water washes away foundation of flats in Newburn, Newcastle

I reckon their big mistake was building it in a river less than twenty feet from Europe's largest waterfall.

[General Mannerheim]

I tried to buy some extra land behind us, just about ten feet to extend the garden.

Rang the landlord, who said the church owned the land..
(why am i paying you fifty f*cking pound a year then, was my obvious question to them)

Rang the vicar of the local parish, he said the council owned the land.

Rang the council, they said they only maintained the land.

Needless to say, i punched myself in the face and then gave up.

did you not crack on and move the fence out anyway? not so bad if theres no construction involved if somebody tells you to move it back.

my mate lives in a end terrace and theres a lane that runs along the back, as his is the end house and theres a stone wall at that end off the lane, he just extended his garden out across it. on the other side of the lane is a few meters of wasteland/shubbery, so he has nabbed that too, just extended his fence line as far as he could, got a massive big back garden now. nobody has ever said owt.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

When he comes to sell it though, another story altogether. And it takes f8cking years to sort out with the Land Registry and lawyers leaping on the bandwagon... I know, I tried to buy one that had 'accumulated' land. Gave up in the end, more trouble than it was worth.

[Bruce Rioja]

Is that not just if you live in the vicinity of a church (can't remember the difference) that you are liable for any repairs to the church and therefore when you take a mortgage out a requirement is to take insurance out against such an eventuality?

Chancery repair liability I believe.

Was stunned when I saw it too.

That has a ring of familiarity about it. Truth be told, and you may recall that I was dealing with the same bunch of idiots that you yourself had previously had the misfortune of acquainting, my attitude at this point had become one of 'yeah, yeah - whatever, just get the fecking deal brokered'.

[General Mannerheim]

When he comes to sell it though, another story altogether. And it takes f8cking years to sort out with the Land Registry and lawyers leaping on the bandwagon... I know, I tried to buy one that had 'accumulated' land. Gave up in the end, more trouble than it was worth.

my house was the same, my boundary is 'officially' from the corner of my house back to the fence at the rear. however ive got an access path down the side which isnt really mine, but only leads into my garden, so they guy i bought it off had to erect a temporary fence along the boundary for legalities of the sale, then the first thing i did was pull it down again and stick a gate up at the end of the alley, mine! proper ball ache tho, fecking bureaucrats.