'Ull V Bolton

[CrazyHorse]

We don't need an acronym when we already have an anagram for him.
Cnut.

[truewhite15]

I want us to win. Because I'm a Bolton fan, and that's what we need.

I said that Coyle needed, for me, 10 points from the first five games to keep his job. That means he needs to win the next two games. Even more so after last night's appalling decision. A loss against Hull, and surely the two week break afterwards is the prime time to show him the door.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I want us to win, too, because I'm a Bolton fan. I wanted Kevin Davies to score last night, because he's a Bolton player, but I knew it would hide the idiocy of Coyle's third (and only unforced) substitution. So we enter an uneasy phase where I want us to win but more pertinently I want the manager to prove his worth. I think it will be a long phase: Coyle won't jump and I doubt Gartside will push him before November at the earliest.

[Bruce Rioja]

5 points from the next 3 games is the VERY minumum requirement. I'm expecting 6. Would be delighted with 7. Ecstatic with 9.

You're expecting 6 from Hull and Brum away and Watford at home?

Are you on acid?

Do-able. My Brummie mates are already saying that Lee Clarke hasn't a clue. I'd go as far as to say seven 'should' be a reasonable target.

[midlands exile]

Steve Bruce is probably one of the only managers I would consider with less tactical nous than our Owen.

I'll stick my neck out and say we'll win this. Comfortably.

Why? Is steve bruce really more clueless than captain clueless?

I think we'll lose even though we should have a fair chance of winning. I think we'll play 442 and there will be some stupid substitution at some point that takes the game away from us.I cant see us picking up more than a point a game with coyle in charge evenat a lower level and I cant see spearing being a little fella with a big heart being capable of plugging all the holes necessary to make things better.

I admire your ability to see some hope somewhere. I hope you have better eyes than me.

Why? Why, you ask? Because I've had about four hours of sleep, am currently on my third caffeine dose and am also seeing some ferocious, FEROCIOUS shit from this doobie I've just smoked. That's why.

Sounds like OC's pre-match preparation, given the state of his grip on reality...

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'

Are we going to start an acronym like HWSNBN had?

HWSSNBSA??

He Who's Shorts Shall Never Be Seen Again??

Spongebrain crazypants ? I thought OCD was quite clever but nowhere near catchy enough.

[Ianmooreslovechild]

Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'

Are we going to start an acronym like HWSNBN had?

HWSSNBSA??

He Who's Shorts Shall Never Be Seen Again??

Spongebrain crazypants ? I thought OCD was quite clever but nowhere near catchy enough.

or

Coyle Owen Captain Klueless (that works tho I'm sure someone could do better.

[the-Bowtun-Warrior]

Wouldn't be overly disappointed with a loss. Even a easy loss.

Might make something more likely...

[Dr.Karl]

Hull away evokes memories of Jussi's masterclass. Unbelievable performance that day. Verbal is right though, Bruce and Coyle are tactical numpties. That said I was talking to a Burnley fan over the weekend and he said Coyle persisted with a 4-3-3/4-5-1 when he was there. Which makes his decisions over the last 18 months even more bizarre.

[norm the jedi]

I want us to win, too, because I'm a Bolton fan. I wanted Kevin Davies to score last night, because he's a Bolton player, but I knew it would hide the idiocy of Coyle's third (and only unforced) substitution. So we enter an uneasy phase where I want us to win but more pertinently I want the manager to prove his worth. I think it will be a long phase: Coyle won't jump and I doubt Gartside will push him before November at the earliest.

With you DSB, although I wonder whether the anti Coyle hysteria has reached the point that even if he improves it'll take 6 months unbeaten and promoted by Feb before any upturn will be in spite of him or accidental whilst he's upstairs collecting fares.. He seems to have lost the fans .. I think he's a busted flush now whatever he does.. but if he goes jumped or pushed?
I wish I was confident the pieman's Mourinho was out there desperate to manage us.. and make it better, for some reason I don't think these players are much better than the results they've been getting for two years..

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I still think there's a desire for him to do well. Nowhere near the hatred for Megson. If he wins 10 on the bounce many would be back behind him, but the shadows will always lurk. It's been 18 very poor months.

[BWFC_Insane]

Nobody in their right minds wants Bolton to lose.

Equally I don't think anyone thinks the future is bright or even orange under the current manager.

Something has to give....

[TKIZ!]

Nobody in their right minds wants Bolton to lose.

Equally I don't think anyone thinks the future is bright or even orange under the current manager.

Something has to give....

Yup. But what to do.

I want/wanted him to succeed. If he wins is it papering over the cracks?

It's obvious and I hate saying this he's lost a large section of the fans so where does that leave us(no, I'm not one of them, Bolton's in my blood and I just can't bring myself to turn my back on Coyle yet)

[BWFC_Insane]

Nobody in their right minds wants Bolton to lose.

Equally I don't think anyone thinks the future is bright or even orange under the current manager.

Something has to give....

Yup. But what to do.

I want/wanted him to succeed. If he wins is it papering over the cracks?

It's obvious and I hate saying this he's lost a large section of the fans so where does that leave us(no, I'm not one of them, Bolton's in my blood and I just can't bring myself to turn my back on Coyle yet)

I dunno, I guess as fans take it one game at a time.

I don't in the long term see any real way back for him. Not because the support would never be happy with him, but because he is showing the stubborn signs of a manager who knows sooner or later his time is up.

[norm the jedi]

Nobody in their right minds wants Bolton to lose.

Equally I don't think anyone thinks the future is bright or even orange under the current manager.

Something has to give....

Yup. But what to do.

I want/wanted him to succeed. If he wins is it papering over the cracks?

It's obvious and I hate saying this he's lost a large section of the fans so where does that leave us(no, I'm not one of them, Bolton's in my blood and I just can't bring myself to turn my back on Coyle yet)

I dunno, I guess as fans take it one game at a time.

I don't in the long term see any real way back for him. Not because the support would never be happy with him, but because he is showing the stubborn signs of a manager who knows sooner or later his time is up.

I think we just end up with the 'damned if he does - damned if he doesn't' scenario where the basic response is 'well feck em I 'll suit meself then..'
Don't know either way if he can turn it round? I imagine he is neither as good as his friends say or as bad as his critics suggest.. but it may be just as well to get rid .. because I think the vast majority of paying punters have already made their minds up..

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm always desperate for us to win and Saturday aint no different.

Having lost total faith in Coyle, and it took me until this season, whatever he does, I'll take some convincing now.

If we start 4-4-2 I'll continue to believe he's deluded and not seeing what we're all seeing.

If we start 4-5-1, I'll see it as an admission he was clueless all along and it's taken him too long to realise it.

Still, I'm sorry not to be going.

3-1 win for us

[Little Green Man]

They'll tear us to smithereens. It's pointless even discussing it further.

wow, ive never seen smithereens written down in word form before!

Especially For You

As for the game, we'll probably concede the usual two so, to be optimistic, perhaps a scabbed 2-2 draw.

[TKIZ!]

I'm always desperate for us to win and Saturday aint no different.

Having lost total faith in Coyle, and it took me until this season, whatever he does, I'll take some convincing now.

If we start 4-4-2 I'll continue to believe he's deluded and not seeing what we're all seeing.

If we start 4-5-1, I'll see it as an admission he was clueless all along and it's taken him too long to realise it.

Still, I'm sorry not to be going.

3-1 win for us

This is how I'm probably feeling right about now. I really wish no ill of Coyle, none whatsoever. Plus from the other thread I'm not really sure I would want any of the other managers mentioned. Suntan (P5 W3 D2 L0)has a good record for us but has he been tainted by failure else where?

[norm the jedi]

I'm always desperate for us to win and Saturday aint no different.

Having lost total faith in Coyle, and it took me until this season, whatever he does, I'll take some convincing now.

If we start 4-4-2 I'll continue to believe he's deluded and not seeing what we're all seeing.

If we start 4-5-1, I'll see it as an admission he was clueless all along and it's taken him too long to realise it.

Still, I'm sorry not to be going.

3-1 win for us

This is how I'm probably feeling right about now. I really wish no ill of Coyle, none whatsoever. Plus from the other thread I'm not really sure I would want any of the other managers mentioned. Suntan (P5 W3 D2 L0)has a good record for us but has he been tainted by failure else where?

At least there's a chance we would be able to defend better... with a Mc~Carthy or old Karaoke Phil...

[thebish]

They'll tear us to smithereens. It's pointless even discussing it further.

wow, ive never seen smithereens written down in word form before!

oh yes you have! (by the same author!)

on weds Oct 26th 2011, in the Official Xbox 360 Thread

Unless they include checkpoints like they did in Gay Tony, I'm not going anywhere near GTA5.
The main game in 4 was beyond infuriating; Steal a car, trail another car for like 20 minutes without being spotted, then have a massive 40 against one shootout and if it goes wrong at any point, restart and do the whole lot again.

No thanks. It costs me too much to replace the controllers that I end up smashing into smithereens in frustration.

and you replied:

fairly sure they provided an update patch for this? but im sure there will be checkpoints in the new one.

started Arkham City last night, its immense!