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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Sep 25, 2022 1:21 pm

Couple on things on this. The law, I think refers to when the ball would have been expected to come into play. We used to read that as the bowlers arm is just past it's apex in delivery. The second part is it's not a "snapshot" like the offside rule. If at any point after that, the non-striker is out of their ground when the wickets are broken they'd be out.

I think, I only ever did this once, but I'd already recalled the batsman after one warning and one where I withdrew the appeal, so think he'd had enough warnings and was about 1/4 the way down the track when I flirted him off, third go.

But, stealing ground leaves you open, it's also gaining an unfair advantage...

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:05 pm

Someone's actually analyzed every ball, where Dean was at the non-strikers end. They've concluded that she was out of her crease 73 times (or 85% of the times she was at non-strikers end.) Backing up isn't cheating, but you leave yourself open to being run out as with any other attempted run. Whilst I think India should have warned her through the Umpires first, there's no need for them to do so, you wouldn't warn someone who'd just made "a risky second", you'd just run them out.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:39 pm

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Someone's actually analyzed every ball, where Dean was at the non-strikers end. They've concluded that she was out of her crease 73 times (or 85% of the times she was at non-strikers end.) Backing up isn't cheating, but you leave yourself open to being run out as with any other attempted run. Whilst I think India should have warned her through the Umpires first, there's no need for them to do so, you wouldn't warn someone who'd just made "a risky second", you'd just run them out.
Rules are what they are. I’m not sure they shouldn’t change. In shorter forms of the game I reckon you could get a tonne of mankads if you tried and probably isn’t good for the spectacle.

Perhaps should be a warning system introduced. You have to warn the umpires and batsman you believe they are encroaching at least once if not more. And umpires should then have to agree with you - to avoid it becoming incessant. Before a mankad can be attempted.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 pm

No changes needed for me. The laws are pretty clear and no one is really arguing they're not. Batsman backs up sensibly, there isn't a problem. Like at the other end you don't need to warn the batsman on strike, if they're taking guard outside the crease, they might get stumped...Batter at non-strikers have a choice whether they do or they don't

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:14 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 pm
No changes needed for me. The laws are pretty clear and no one is really arguing they're not. Batsman backs up sensibly, there isn't a problem. Like at the other end you don't need to warn the batsman on strike, if they're taking guard outside the crease, they might get stumped...Batter at non-strikers have a choice whether they do or they don't
Clearly the words of an indignant bowler who couldn't turn a ball on a corrugated roof. 😁
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:22 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:08 pm
No changes needed for me. The laws are pretty clear and no one is really arguing they're not. Batsman backs up sensibly, there isn't a problem. Like at the other end you don't need to warn the batsman on strike, if they're taking guard outside the crease, they might get stumped...Batter at non-strikers have a choice whether they do or they don't
Clearly the words of an indignant bowler who couldn't turn a ball on a corrugated roof. 😁
Never attempted that spinny stuff mate. :-)

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:20 pm

Despite heroics by Moeen Ali, we lost by six runs... :(
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Oct 09, 2022 10:13 am

England (V Australia) 140-1. Great start in the 20-20 test.

ended with 208-6.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 09, 2022 11:53 am

It’s a very good score and you’d hope it was enough. Still should have been 220 plus. Collapsed a bit too much at the end.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:39 pm

Close run thing in the end. England won by 8 runs, but a win over the Oz is always good news. :oyea:
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:08 pm

England need a finisher down the order and are maybe one bowler short in their t20 side.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:05 pm

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England need a finisher down the order and are maybe one bowler short in their t20 side.
We won. The opposition want to win as much as we do. Rejoice. :oyea:




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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:02 pm

I’m as big a proponent of test match cricket as anyone. It’s the best format.

However, I don’t think you will ever see a better game of cricket than the T20 World Cup match between India and Pakistan today. Won’t spoil it for those who haven’t seen it and I’d only say try and watch it in full without knowing the result.

It’s honestly one of the greatest most gripping sporting contests I’ve seen.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:20 am

Ashes tickets for the Friday at Edgbaston sorted :)
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Nov 01, 2022 10:01 pm

Lost to Ireland in T20 (although the rain robbed us (apparently) but beat the Kiwis with Joss Butler starring,so back in favour.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:26 am

That was closer than it might have been...

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:39 pm

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That was closer than it might have been...
Read it earlier. Ben Stokes saved the day again but we're through and Australia are out.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:08 am

After some iffy performances, that was a comprehensive thrashing of India, to get into the final.

If you didn't see it, Buttler played the boring anchor role whilst Hales took it away from them. 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:16 am

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Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:08 am
After some iffy performances, that was a comprehensive thrashing of India, to get into the final.

If you didn't see it, Buttler played the boring anchor role whilst Hales took it away from them. 🤣🤣🤣
Jos should be ashamed of his strike rate. Only 163. C’mon Jos…. :lol:

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:34 am

England should still win from here but it’s going to be nervy and let’s face it the Pakistan attack are the best in the world in this format so very tough chase here.

I’d say it’s close to 50:50.

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