All Arsenal fans are know-nowt nobbers
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Actually, I've just thought about this (not that it needs much thought). Its essentially like the ontological argument, Arsenal fans exist therefore they are nobbers.
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LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".
but which (if either) is right?
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in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".
but which (if either) is right?
my Directory of useful TW contacts has ohjimmyjimmy listed in the English grammar section....
Personally Bish, I would go with an 'A' rather than an 'an'thebish wrote:LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".
but which (if either) is right?
my Directory of useful TW contacts has ohjimmyjimmy listed in the English grammar section....
Pfffft.
I think, since "at first perhaps less than obvious" is a separate clause, you would go with 'a'. Brackets are confusing, but if we substitute in commas instead,thebish wrote:LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".
but which (if either) is right?
my Directory of useful TW contacts has ohjimmyjimmy listed in the English grammar section....
"This is a, at first perhaps less than obvious, reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish"
looks better than,
"This is an, at first perhaps less than obvious, reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish"
In fact reading it back the second one looks awful. So there.
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Prufrock wrote:I think, since "at first perhaps less than obvious" is a separate clause, you would go with 'a'. Brackets are confusing, but if we substitute in commas instead,thebish wrote:LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".
but which (if either) is right?
my Directory of useful TW contacts has ohjimmyjimmy listed in the English grammar section....
"This is a, at first perhaps less than obvious, reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish"
looks better than,
"This is an, at first perhaps less than obvious, reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish"
In fact reading it back the second one looks awful. So there.
Can I be in your book thing. Latin, or being angry maybe? Or the way to (not) dress on Parisian balconies?
Amended for truthfulness.

I thought I'd try to get in before you. It seems not to have stopped youGary the Enfield wrote:Prufrock wrote:
Can I be in your book thing. Latin, or being angry maybe? Or the way to (not) dress on Parisian balconies?
Amended for truthfulness.

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Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.
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We need to get this thread back on track.
Are there levels of Arsenal-fan-as-know-nowt-nobbers? Say half-nobbers, demi-nobbers, pseudso nobbers if you will. Or does being an Arsenal fan simply preclude any lack of nobishness, ergo I talk therefore its bollox?
Are there levels of Arsenal-fan-as-know-nowt-nobbers? Say half-nobbers, demi-nobbers, pseudso nobbers if you will. Or does being an Arsenal fan simply preclude any lack of nobishness, ergo I talk therefore its bollox?
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Or perhaps re-write it as: Whilst at first being perhaps less than obvious, this is a reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.thebish wrote:LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".but which (if either) is right?....
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You know how most teams you might have a mate or colleague who supports 'em that you don't think is a bell end? Like for instance I know some yernited fans from Manchester and *spit* I don't want to decapitate the b@stards every time they open their mouth?
Well I've never met a non nobber Arsenal fan.
Well I've never met a non nobber Arsenal fan.
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I think there's a case for 'perhaps' being in parenthesis in either formulation.TANGODANCER wrote:Or perhaps re-write it as: Whilst at first being perhaps less than obvious, this is a reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.thebish wrote:LK raises an interesting point...
in a bracketed off sentence like his:
the "a" indirectly (because of the bracket) precedes the "at", but is actually, grammatically, attached to the word "reference" - so he has written it as I would have.This is a (at first perhaps less than obvious) reference to Arsenal fans being a little childish.
if the sentence were spoken - I'd be tempted to say "an".but which (if either) is right?....
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