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Re: The next manager

Post by Enoch » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:33 pm

:lol: Holloway!

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Re: The next manager

Post by Jugs » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm

Monk has baggage - last I heard he was under investigation by a few of the clubs he's already managed. They don't like the way he always gets his agent involved in deals. I'd say avoid

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Re: The next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:47 pm

Jugs wrote:
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Monk has baggage - last I heard he was under investigation by a few of the clubs he's already managed. They don't like the way he always gets his agent involved in deals. I'd say avoid
Despite his expensive Boro failure (he's not the only one) Monk is still well-regarded enough to be employed by a club in the second tier and looking up, rather than hanging off the arse of the third and looking down.

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Re: The next manager

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:50 pm

Jugs wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:41 pm
Monk has baggage - last I heard he was under investigation by a few of the clubs he's already managed. They don't like the way he always gets his agent involved in deals. I'd say avoid
Ah, I didn't know that. Any appointee must have a flawless reputation for basic decency and integrity after what we have just been through...

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Re: The next manager

Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:17 pm

Monk and Holloway are both morons. Not for me. Need someone who is going to come and build something. Someone looking for in modern parlance a "project".

Throwing out again my left field Dean Holden shout. Mainly because Bristol City have done well, developed players, and Lee Johnson is clearly an idiot so someone must know what they're doing.
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Re: The next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:36 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:17 pm
Monk and Holloway are both morons. Not for me. Need someone who is going to come and build something. Someone looking for in modern parlance a "project".

Throwing out again my left field Dean Holden shout. Mainly because Bristol City have done well, developed players, and Lee Johnson is clearly an idiot so someone must know what they're doing.
My mate who's on that patch thinks Holden will jump into management eventually, but not sure this is the right time to leave or indeed the right place to arrive at. He's pledged to ask him next time DH is on media duty.

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Re: The next manager

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Prufrock wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:17 pm
Monk and Holloway are both morons. Not for me. Need someone who is going to come and build something. Someone looking for in modern parlance a "project".

Throwing out again my left field Dean Holden shout. Mainly because Bristol City have done well, developed players, and Lee Johnson is clearly an idiot so someone must know what they're doing.

Holden would also be my choice as things stand.

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Re: The next manager

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:52 am

Brian McDermott. He's doing nowt :)
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Re: The next manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:58 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Brian McDermott. He's doing nowt :)
He's probably a good fit. But I struggle to take him seriously when he speaks....

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Re: The next manager

Post by enrdentw » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:13 am

Sol Campbell worked a minor miracle at Macclesfield... he is worth an interview.

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Re: The next manager

Post by Jugs » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:43 am

Campbell, good shout. But Nolan and Campbell have more-or-less the same level of experience. I'd go with the ex-player (hero) if I was to choose out of a pair of candidates like that personally

Either way, wouldn't surprise me if Sol gets an interview.

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Re: The next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:45 pm

I'd rather get someone whose ego doesn't block out the sun. Someone who would be here for the long run.

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Re: The next manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:47 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:45 pm
I'd rather get someone whose ego doesn't block out the sun. Someone who would be here for the long run.
Oooooof....tread carefully there. Oliver Holt will be a coming for you.

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Re: The next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:55 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:47 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:45 pm
I'd rather get someone whose ego doesn't block out the sun. Someone who would be here for the long run.
Oooooof....tread carefully there. Oliver Holt will be a coming for you.
Heh. That was quite the hissy fit.

For the record, I wasn't angry Sol got the Macc job. I was a bit surprised he went for it, given he's got the sort of self-worth required to put oneself forward as a candidate for Mayor of London, but he's done well there on a tough shift. However, can you imagine Sol Campbell being Bolton manager in four years' time? I can't. So IMO forget it. We need to plan long-term. And sensibly.

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Re: The next manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:58 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:55 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:47 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:45 pm
I'd rather get someone whose ego doesn't block out the sun. Someone who would be here for the long run.
Oooooof....tread carefully there. Oliver Holt will be a coming for you.
Heh. That was quite the hissy fit.

For the record, I wasn't angry Sol got the Macc job. I was a bit surprised he went for it, given he's got the sort of self-worth required to put oneself forward as a candidate for Mayor of London, but he's done well there on a tough shift. However, can you imagine Sol Campbell being Bolton manager in four years' time? I can't. So IMO forget it. We need to plan long-term. And sensibly.
I can't imagine him being Bolton manager in 2 weeks time. Can't stand the bloke personally. And for balance Oli - I can't stand Ian Holloway either!

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Re: The next manager

Post by jimbo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:00 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:52 am
Brian McDermott. He's doing nowt :)
Successful at Leeds Rhinos, but largely carried by an experienced group of players I reckon. Not sure he’d transfer across to football very well.

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Re: The next manager

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:00 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:58 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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can you imagine Sol Campbell being Bolton manager in four years' time?
I can't imagine him being Bolton manager in 2 weeks time.
I can. A League One club (with a proud name and a big story) would be a sensible next stepping stone for him. But I don't want a stone-stepper, I want a future-builder.

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Re: The next manager

Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:08 pm

I feel we are suddenly a very attractive proposition now. New owners with a plan, the club ready for progress again, good stadium and facilities, people in the game still respect us and remember us being a decent Prem side.

I wonder if existing L1 managers will be applying or amenable to switching? The Cowley brothers at Lincoln for instance?

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Re: The next manager

Post by jimbo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:09 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:00 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:58 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:55 pm
can you imagine Sol Campbell being Bolton manager in four years' time?
I can't imagine him being Bolton manager in 2 weeks time.
I can. A League One club (with a proud name and a big story) would be a sensible next stepping stone for him. But I don't want a stone-stepper, I want a future-builder.
There’s a fine line between stone stepping and future building though. A young manager is likely to be ambitious, and even in the best case scenario we may not progress as fast as their career may take them. Someone may start out for the long haul, put 2 good years in and then a championship club comes calling.

It’s a fairly unique opportunity for someone though - decent fan base, good facilities and a complete blank canvas of a squad, with new owners looking to win over fans.

Whoever comes in will be completely rebuilding the club which is why I think it’s imperative we get the right person.

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Re: The next manager

Post by jimbo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:10 pm

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:08 pm
I feel we are suddenly a very attractive proposition now. New owners with a plan, the club ready for progress again, good stadium and facilities, people in the game still respect us and remember us being a decent Prem side.

I wonder if existing L1 managers will be applying or amenable to switching? The Cowley brothers at Lincoln for instance?
There aren’t many other jobs around that don’t start with some sort of clear out. We’ve done all of that. Whoever comes in will have a complete blank canvas to build their ideal squad and shape the whole club in their image.

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