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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:13 am

That was away.

I meant the home fixture the following year, when they were also awarded two penalties. I think.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by superjohnmcginlay » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:27 pm

In 2006/2007 Blackburn were given 4 penalties against us as far as I can remember (I was fooking leathered at the away game). He saved the 2 away but let in the 2 at home.

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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Prufrock » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:06 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:I don't know. I was more concerned by the way that he just dropped to his knees on both of their goals. Had he stood up he'd have saved the second one at head height, the scruffy c*nt.
To do that he'd have also required the foresight to predict that Albrighton was going to mishit it with his shin.

I think I read somewhere that he's joint with David James for most penalty saves over the last 10 years or so.
Come on Tom, play the game, Jussi is rubbish for not predicting a 1 in a million pure fluke finish from Albrighton.

We should have that Al Habsi back, really solid, no mistakes......ooooh.
Utter prickishness. Have another look - Jaaskalainen has dropped onto his knee before it's even reached the Villa player. Prickishness!
Which is his style as Caps says, it works for him. Most times Albrightons shot would not have bounced over and in like that. But it did. Jussi has to play the percentages if he stays up for as long as possible its highly probable that low shots would squeeze in underneath him.
The way he sets up to hit it there is no way he isn't going to hit it into the ground. He didn't shin it at all. He didn't catch it well at all like, but still. It's hit slowly but he goes down far too early. CAPS is saying he goes down early and as such rarely concedes low down. Well that's smashing, but it's feck all use for shots that are high if he is going down that early. He could go and stand right next to his left hand post and say he rarely gets beaten to his left, but he'd still look a dick for all the saveable ones going to his right. Don't get me wrong I think he has taken some unreal stick this year, and Ali has achieved Andranik like status, but he should have saved that. He's supposedly a perfectionist, and I would be VERY surprised if he isn't annoyed at himself. I think the lack of characteristic running to the penalty spot and chucking his arms about in Sam Ricketts' general direction (it's presumably still his fault) shows Jussi knew that. He's a miserable bastard. Cracking keeper tho.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:10 pm

Jussi has hardly taken any stick this year. Most are in agreement that its a toss up between him and Ali.

If you rewind to 2008, I'll give you that.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by thebish » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:22 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Jussi has hardly taken any stick this year. Most are in agreement that its a toss up between him and Ali.

If you rewind to 2008, I'll give you that.

he's taken quite a bit - not many games pass without Jussi being blamed by someone for the goal...

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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Prufrock » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:25 pm

Aye, seems to take stick for every single goal he concedes this season.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:29 pm

thebish wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Jussi has hardly taken any stick this year. Most are in agreement that its a toss up between him and Ali.

If you rewind to 2008, I'll give you that.

he's taken quite a bit - not many games pass without Jussi being blamed by someone for the goal...
Theres not a single game passes without a single person blaming a single player.

Its hardly loads in the scheme of things.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:30 pm

Prufrock wrote:CAPS is saying he goes down early
No, I'm saying he 'starts' low rather than upright.

On the one you're on about he anticipated the flight...he got it wrong, but that doesn't mean he should've saved it

From 8 (?) yards out, I'd say he has to be anticipating most times in order to make the save

9 times out of 10, the ball wouldn't have taken the path it did

The only way to save that one would have been to stand and wait til the bloke hit it...1 time (or less) in 10 it would've resulted in a save..the other 9, dicks would have used it as evidence he was finished as it flew past him
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by thebish » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:36 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
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Lord Kangana wrote:Jussi has hardly taken any stick this year. Most are in agreement that its a toss up between him and Ali.

If you rewind to 2008, I'll give you that.

he's taken quite a bit - not many games pass without Jussi being blamed by someone for the goal...
Theres not a single game passes without a single person blaming a single player.

Its hardly loads in the scheme of things.
my impression has been that is has been frequent... but I doubt Jussi is losing any sleep over it..

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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by jaffka » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:56 pm

aye £?0,000.00 a week tends to make you have broad shoulders and deaf ears

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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Prufrock » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:20 pm

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Prufrock wrote:CAPS is saying he goes down early
No, I'm saying he 'starts' low rather than upright.

On the one you're on about he anticipated the flight...he got it wrong, but that doesn't mean he should've saved it

From 8 (?) yards out, I'd say he has to be anticipating most times in order to make the save

9 times out of 10, the ball wouldn't have taken the path it did

The only way to save that one would have been to stand and wait til the bloke hit it...1 time (or less) in 10 it would've resulted in a save..the other 9, dicks would have used it as evidence he was finished as it flew past him

Ahh I get one you mean. I think you're right generally, he does seem to set himself low, almost looks in fact like he is trying to 'make himself small'. He is on his knees before Allbrighton even made contact though, if he just 'set' himself low he could still have got there either way. He almost made it even from on his knees.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:39 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote: I'd say he has to be anticipating most times in order to make the save
Only recently though. Previously he's never come for crosses because he'd rather rely on his incredible reflexes to deal with the shot. That said, he's always been shite low down to his right. Now it seems as though he's getting down low on that side in advance far too readily.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:52 pm

As an aside, is Barber still on the scene?

When he disappeared a few months back, he was said to be injured
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:41 pm

Criticism of incumbent players tends to peak when there's a viable alternative. For what it's worth I'm not in the Blame Jussi crowd, on this goal or many others, but the existence/potential/ability of AAH and to some extent Bogdan means that some folk will agitate for change, as is their right. It's a better situation to be in than Oh God We Need To Sign Someone Cos We All Agree This Guy's Hopeless.

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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Bijou Bob » Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:47 pm

You can't fault the guy for penalty saves, one on ones and anything below knee height but...................

I can remember 3 coaching tips from being a schoolkid 1. Never pass the ball across your own 18 yard box 2. Shoot on sight and 3. If the ball is in the air in the 6 yard box, it's the goalies.

Clearly Finnish school coaches ignore number 3, which presumably is why Jussi remains rooted to his line and doesn't command his box.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:16 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:You can't fault the guy for penalty saves, one on ones and anything below knee height but...................

I can remember 3 coaching tips from being a schoolkid 1. Never pass the ball across your own 18 yard box 2. Shoot on sight and 3. If the ball is in the air in the 6 yard box, it's the goalies.Clearly Finnish school coaches ignore number 3, which presumably is why Jussi remains rooted to his line and doesn't command his box.
Aye, but that's probably befor Kev Nolan invented the "stand on the goalie's boot-laces" tactic. :wink:
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by Bijou Bob » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:37 pm

Granted TD. I suppose the thing is, it doesn't really matter how many penalties Jussi saves, it'll never overshadow The penalty save of Brannigan's.
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Re: Jussi penalty saves

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:30 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:As an aside, is Barber still on the scene?

When he disappeared a few months back, he was said to be injured
Am sure I've seen him on the bench this season.

Think he is no longer able to do keepers warm up due to injury but is still coaching here.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:11 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Aye, but that's probably befor Kev Nolan invented the "stand on the goalie's boot-laces" tactic. :wink:
A tactic which, I noted along with 95,000 locals on Tuesday night, the holy Arsenal's impeccable Cesc Fabregas was using on Barcelona's Victor Valdes. (Valdes is the goalkeeper, although it was difficult to tell on the night as he may as well have been a steward.)

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