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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:03 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
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Jez wrote:Dont sign just yet Dougie, who needs a struggling promotion favourite when you could manage the team at the very bottom!
Depends what money they throw at him.
That's what we said about you guys! :grin:

It's exciting all this isn't it? Or Karma? 8)
I can understand Palace fans being upset at Freedman but not sure what we have done wrong to deserve any bad karma? It was the same with Burnley fans. In both cases we made an offer that the club accepted and the manager decided he wanted to talk to us. Whats wrong with that? :conf:
It looks like your chairman tapped him up. Your staff appear to dislike how our owners have handled the timing of the announcement of DF resigning. Your chairman finally approached us on Saturday morning, prior to the Millwall game. So, I guess there is some resentment about how your chairman has conducted himself. As for Freedman, I think we are getting over him (thanks to his incredibly poor behaviour), and are watching with a wry chuckle.

I mean no ill to you fans, in fact I have rarely seen a forum that is as balanced as this. Nothing like the BBS!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by ChrisC » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:06 pm

Eagle in peace wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Eagle in peace wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Jez wrote:Dont sign just yet Dougie, who needs a struggling promotion favourite when you could manage the team at the very bottom!
Depends what money they throw at him.
That's what we said about you guys! :grin:

It's exciting all this isn't it? Or Karma? 8)
I can understand Palace fans being upset at Freedman but not sure what we have done wrong to deserve any bad karma? It was the same with Burnley fans. In both cases we made an offer that the club accepted and the manager decided he wanted to talk to us. Whats wrong with that? :conf:
It looks like your chairman tapped him up. Your staff appear to dislike how our owners have handled the timing of the announcement of DF resigning. Your chairman finally approached us on Saturday morning, prior to the Millwall game. So, I guess there is some resentment about how your chairman has conducted himself. As for Freedman, I think we are getting over him (thanks to his incredibly poor behaviour), and are watching with a wry chuckle.

I mean no ill to you fans, in fact I have rarely seen a forum that is as balanced as this. Nothing like the BBS!

Cheers.
Your chairman said PG made an approach on Friday not Sunday.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:07 pm

Eagle in peace wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Eagle in peace wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Jez wrote:Dont sign just yet Dougie, who needs a struggling promotion favourite when you could manage the team at the very bottom!
Depends what money they throw at him.
That's what we said about you guys! :grin:

It's exciting all this isn't it? Or Karma? 8)
I can understand Palace fans being upset at Freedman but not sure what we have done wrong to deserve any bad karma? It was the same with Burnley fans. In both cases we made an offer that the club accepted and the manager decided he wanted to talk to us. Whats wrong with that? :conf:
It looks like your chairman tapped him up. Your staff appear to dislike how our owners have handled the timing of the announcement of DF resigning. Your chairman finally approached us on Saturday morning, prior to the Millwall game. So, I guess there is some resentment about how your chairman has conducted himself. As for Freedman, I think we are getting over him (thanks to his incredibly poor behaviour), and are watching with a wry chuckle.

I mean no ill to you fans, in fact I have rarely seen a forum that is as balanced as this. Nothing like the BBS!

Cheers.
Yeah can see your owners being sore about the approach.

But to announce that he'd joined us because Freedman had rung them to say he was, is not really that professional.

Say he's left Palace, fine, but not really their place to announce something that hadn't quite happened yet.

Anyhow, being announced tomorrow apparently.....

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:08 pm

Ooo has nixon tweeted?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:10 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Ooo has nixon tweeted?
No idea, as a non twitterer can't see his tweets. But Iles (yeah I know.......) reckons its tomorrow. Mind he said that it was today earlier.....

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Iles is fecking clueless! He just repeats what nixon tweets

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Barefoot Wanderer » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Eagle in peace wrote:Hi chaps,

Genuinely not here to stir, but if you take my fellow fans post and remove Freedman's wins from our recent form then you will understand the results look a little underwhelming. To repeat what other Palace fans have probably said, we knew what we were buying into, so tolerated the largely defensive football. I would be interested to know what Gartside's rationale is as you may well realise from our forums, it is mystifying us!
Going off past appointments Gartside has no rationale! - "up and comming, young manager" was his target and I suppose Freedman fits this quite nicely. Because DF is over-achieving with the players he has at the moment (no disrespect), even though is over a short period, Gartside likes what he's doing and from what I understand DF has brought youngsters through successfully at Palace which will also fit in well with PG's current ideas. I believe PG prefers a small fish in a big pond, rather than a big fish like Roy Keane or Souness who would want bigger budgets and bigger wages

It's an interesting appointment from our view but better than McCarthy which seemed to be more likely a week ago (I wouldn't have minded Souness). I think if he succeeds it will take him 2 seasons to get us back up unless things fall smoothly into place which they rarely do, but DF is deffensive minded which might have a good effect right now. Really Gartside should go with what he's got (Jimmy Phillips & co) and see whos knocking around near xmas, but this is unlikely to happen now - I think DF's success or failure is a toss of a coin because we don't know enough about him to predict what is likely to happen, but this is often the case and why we love football!

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Tim The Eagle » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:13 pm

Looks like compensation has been agreed and by the sound of it, Steve parish is resigned to lennie lawence going with him.....this was on london 94.9 inteview you can see the CPFC Fans comments about what was said by SP Here http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthread.php?t=236933 there are some transcripts from the interview if you can understand our accent 8)

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:15 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Iles is fecking clueless! He just repeats what nixon tweets
Wouldn't go that far, he tweets and prints what the club tell him to..........

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Tim The Eagle » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:25 pm

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Eagle in peace wrote:Hi chaps,

Genuinely not here to stir, but if you take my fellow fans post and remove Freedman's wins from our recent form then you will understand the results look a little underwhelming. To repeat what other Palace fans have probably said, we knew what we were buying into, so tolerated the largely defensive football. I would be interested to know what Gartside's rationale is as you may well realise from our forums, it is mystifying us!
Going off past appointments Gartside has no rationale! - "up and comming, young manager" was his target and I suppose Freedman fits this quite nicely. Because DF is over-achieving with the players he has at the moment (no disrespect), even though is over a short period, Gartside likes what he's doing and from what I understand DF has brought youngsters through successfully at Palace which will also fit in well with PG's current ideas. I believe PG prefers a small fish in a big pond, rather than a big fish like Roy Keane or Souness who would want bigger budgets and bigger wages

It's an interesting appointment from our view but better than McCarthy which seemed to be more likely a week ago (I wouldn't have minded Souness). I think if he succeeds it will take him 2 seasons to get us back up unless things fall smoothly into place which they rarely do, but DF is deffensive minded which might have a good effect right now. Really Gartside should go with what he's got (Jimmy Phillips & co) and see whos knocking around near xmas, but this is unlikely to happen now - I think DF's success or failure is a toss of a coin because we don't know enough about him to predict what is likely to happen, but this is often the case and why we love football!
Before DF's time CPFC has always had a good crop of young players in the same way someone like Watford has, DF did not make these players what they were they were there already, Zaha for instance was in Palaces first team prior to DF comming in, yes he did play him and put faith in him.
I do not think that DF is over acheiving with the players I think that we at present have bought in the right players to have a decent sized squad which we have not been able to afford untill recently.

DF was defensive minded and it was not working, every time we lost a game it seemed he lost any attacking intent, the huge success that DF has had in recent weeks is due to attacking football with decent cover at the back.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:29 pm

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I can understand Palace fans being upset at Freedman but not sure what we have done wrong to deserve any bad karma? It was the same with Burnley fans. In both cases we made an offer that the club accepted and the manager decided he wanted to talk to us. Whats wrong with that? :conf:[/quote]

It looks like your chairman tapped him up. Your staff appear to dislike how our owners have handled the timing of the announcement of DF resigning. Your chairman finally approached us on Saturday morning, prior to the Millwall game. So, I guess there is some resentment about how your chairman has conducted himself. As for Freedman, I think we are getting over him (thanks to his incredibly poor behaviour), and are watching with a wry chuckle.

I mean no ill to you fans, in fact I have rarely seen a forum that is as balanced as this. Nothing like the BBS!

Cheers.[/quote]

Yeah can see your owners being sore about the approach.

But to announce that he'd joined us because Freedman had rung them to say he was, is not really that professional.

Say he's left Palace, fine, but not really their place to announce something that hadn't quite happened yet.

Anyhow, being announced tomorrow apparently.....[/quote]

Freedman resigned stating he was going to manage Bolton. We announced what we were told. As I said, tapping up and the timing of the official approach leaves Gartside with little recourse to crying foul.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:33 pm

Your owners said that everything was above board with the approach and were very happy with how Bolton acted through the whole affair.....

Anyhow, your owners are new to football. Guess they are learning as they go. Gartside has been in this game a long time.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Tim The Eagle » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Your owners said that everything was above board with the approach and were very happy with how Bolton acted through the whole affair.....

Anyhow, your owners are new to football. Guess they are learning as they go. Gartside has been in this game a long time.
I totally agree I do think that we have been taken for a ride a couple of times, I do think that they are learning and they are certainly no mugs.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:39 pm

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Eagle in peace wrote:Hi chaps,

Genuinely not here to stir, but if you take my fellow fans post and remove Freedman's wins from our recent form then you will understand the results look a little underwhelming. To repeat what other Palace fans have probably said, we knew what we were buying into, so tolerated the largely defensive football. I would be interested to know what Gartside's rationale is as you may well realise from our forums, it is mystifying us!
Going off past appointments Gartside has no rationale! - "up and comming, young manager" was his target and I suppose Freedman fits this quite nicely. Because DF is over-achieving with the players he has at the moment (no disrespect), even though is over a short period, Gartside likes what he's doing and from what I understand DF has brought youngsters through successfully at Palace which will also fit in well with PG's current ideas. I believe PG prefers a small fish in a big pond, rather than a big fish like Roy Keane or Souness who would want bigger budgets and bigger wages

It's an interesting appointment from our view but better than McCarthy which seemed to be more likely a week ago (I wouldn't have minded Souness). I think if he succeeds it will take him 2 seasons to get us back up unless things fall smoothly into place which they rarely do, but DF is deffensive minded which might have a good effect right now. Really Gartside should go with what he's got (Jimmy Phillips & co) and see whos knocking around near xmas, but this is unlikely to happen now - I think DF's success or failure is a toss of a coin because we don't know enough about him to predict what is likely to happen, but this is often the case and why we love football!
We may be overachieving but it's also too simplistic to apportion our current success to this entirely (soon to stop this Saturday at Leicester). We have made judicious signings in August that have been key building blocks to support our youngsters (who have another seasons experience) and the other established pros brought in last season. Time will tell, but the longer the press and other fans feel we are overachieving, the better as far as we are concerned.

As for DF with you guys, I agree with you, it's gonna be the toss of a coin.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Your owners said that everything was above board with the approach and were very happy with how Bolton acted through the whole affair.....

Anyhow, your owners are new to football. Guess they are learning as they go. Gartside has been in this game a long time.
They are simply being polite and showing dignity, when they know DF and others have played them. This was not all sorted from Saturday morning to Sunday (when DF said he was gonna leave). DF was bookies favourite by last Wed, and there was good reason for that, with the first phone call to DF the previous Monday.

Anyways, that's in the past, we, and you, need to look forward.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by football247 » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:45 pm

As a Palace fan I think it would be serve him right if Dougie ended up at Ipswich, It probably would be good for you guys aswell (you can do better than Dougie)

I hold no grudge against Bolton, I think they've made a mistake but I wont hold that against them, to be honest seeing the list of managers who we could be interested in is quite promising.

Good luck though for the season

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by plymouth wanderer » Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:54 pm

I think you Palace fans have been brilliant no bitching and moaning not like them scummy Burnley fans 8)

I do wish you luck for the rest of the season, i think with the team you got get the right manager in you could get in the play offs

Do ya think Dougie will get a dog's life when we play you at your place ?

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Jokers in White » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:18 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Iles is fecking clueless! He just repeats what nixon tweets
Iles is Mr Copy and Paste.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:43 am

Anyway, we're drinking in the last chance saloon now, so theres no real point in evaluating. We've got to get up, whether thats cos Dougie is ace, Sammy is a great coach or we all shout a bit louder. We just need to get up. Worst case scenario at the latest next season. Otherwise, we're f*cked.
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Post by bobo the clown » Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:07 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Anyway, we're drinking in the last chance saloon now, so theres no real point in evaluating. We've got to get up, whether thats cos Dougie is ace, Sammy is a great coach or we all shout a bit louder. We just need to get up. Worst case scenario at the latest next season. Otherwise, we're f*cked.
precisely.

Coyle really did a job on us. It may already be too late to look for top 2 this season.
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