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Re: Forest match thread

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:46 pm

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bobo the clown wrote:He IS a piss-artist Billy Davies, isn't he ?
As was Brian Clough. Your point? :conf:
We think that the post was just made in the spirit of making Davis out to be a c**t
OK ... an unpleasant piss-artist then.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Harry Genshaw » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:30 pm

Despite having a lovely time yesterday can I just vent my spleen at something that annoyed the feck out of me yesterday and has just come back to me?

Half time draw. The numb c*nt doing it starts up a big announcement for a former Wanderer who played for us from 1984 to 1992. "Ooh who's this going to be?" I wonder - and to general bafflement and silence he says "Mark Cook". Folk near me were thinking perhaps he's a former board member or played for some supporters team. A few seconds later "Oh, sorry - Mark Came"

:shock: That guy put his self on the line for our club several times and was worthy of a lot more respect than that :whack:
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by wonka » Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:36 pm

Yip, that really wound me up too. If he has no idea who Came is (WTF?) then the very least he could do is read his feckin cue card properly. Idiot.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Riviman » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:15 pm

Bring back McGreavy at least I could understand him and he knew the players, present and former.
I feel reborn !!!! No more confussion

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by jaffka » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:25 pm

This is progress though, everything is much better now.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:03 am

Worthy4England wrote:Given a bit of a run,, he MIGHT make an average Championship midfielder...
Really? I mean I wasn't sure about Mark Davies at times in the premiership, but as time went by he really started to look the part.

Last season as he got over one injury and got back into the side things started to click, then he got injured again.

But I'd say he is the player most key to making us tick. I like him and think as it stands he is by far our "best player".

He's not back to his best yet but it was so nice to have a midfield player who wanted the ball on Saturday.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:15 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:We looked totally anonymous up front all game
Right then, let's try 4-3-3... :mrgreen:

Glad the vibes were positive at the ground and that we appear to be going in the right direction. COYW.

One other thing: for their goal, Mills decides to come to the ball, which is debatable but OK if the runner is covered by the tracking midfielder... which he isn't, so he scores. Was that Spearing?

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:45 pm

Spearing was right behind him yes.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:48 pm

LeverEnd wrote:Spearing was right behind him yes.
Ta.

Get goal-side, lad.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:08 pm

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LeverEnd wrote:Spearing was right behind him yes.
Ta.

Get goal-side, lad.
Tough job in a midfield 4 though. Spearing was having to press the ball and win it as well as offer protection. I'm more concerned with how the centre halves parted really. Seems like Spearing got caught out for pace on the break....

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:20 pm

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LeverEnd wrote:Spearing was right behind him yes.
Ta.

Get goal-side, lad.
Tough job in a midfield 4 though. Spearing was having to press the ball and win it as well as offer protection. I'm more concerned with how the centre halves parted really. Seems like Spearing got caught out for pace on the break....
No. Watch it again. He's with his man all the way to the D, at which point Mills comes out and Jay just... stops.

I appreciate that it's harder playing in a 4 than a 5 - I've said it myself re BW, and I've done it myself at a much lower level - but I also know that the most important function of two central midfielders in a 4-4-2 should be to protect their defence. I'm not a Jay-hater but on that occasion he tries, then stops trying, just when he needs not to because Mills has come to the ball.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by SmokinFrazier » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:01 pm

I'm surprised Knight hasn't received more criticism fir his part in their goal. He was sat far too deep which created an opening for them. Hopefully Wheater will get a chance alongside Mills soon because Knight makes far too many costly mistakes.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:20 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:I'm surprised Knight hasn't received more criticism fir his part in their goal. He was sat far too deep which created an opening for them. Hopefully Wheater will get a chance alongside Mills soon because Knight makes far too many costly mistakes.
He was covering Halford's run the way I saw it. He may be error prone but I thought he was blameless there. Spearing let his runner go, Mills and Ream are both drawn to the ball leaving space for the guy to go into. Poor from a defensive midfielder that.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:44 am

LeverEnd wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I'm surprised Knight hasn't received more criticism fir his part in their goal. He was sat far too deep which created an opening for them. Hopefully Wheater will get a chance alongside Mills soon because Knight makes far too many costly mistakes.
He was covering Halford's run the way I saw it. He may be error prone but I thought he was blameless there. Spearing let his runner go, Mills and Ream are both drawn to the ball leaving space for the guy to go into. Poor from a defensive midfielder that.
This. If criticism comes Knight's way it is not for his starting position but for not reacting quickly enough once the ball is played through to Paterson.

Two defenders drawn to the ball like that is poor.

I still don't see Spearing "give up" though. I just see him either out thought or out run....but in any case Spearing should have done better but Mills and Ream both contributed massively there IMO.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:25 am

He just seems to stop running and leave it to someone else. I'n questioning his judgement really, not his desire.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 pm

I'm also surprised Knight hasn't received more criticism

I mean, something has to be his fault

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by SmokinFrazier » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:57 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I'm surprised Knight hasn't received more criticism fir his part in their goal. He was sat far too deep which created an opening for them. Hopefully Wheater will get a chance alongside Mills soon because Knight makes far too many costly mistakes.
He was covering Halford's run the way I saw it. He may be error prone but I thought he was blameless there. Spearing let his runner go, Mills and Ream are both drawn to the ball leaving space for the guy to go into. Poor from a defensive midfielder that.
I'm not sure, mate. Had Knight kept the line and moved up the pitch with Mills, he'd have removed the threat Halford posed by making him offside. He also would have been in a better position to intercept the pass to Paterson or at least been in a position to tackle him, but by allowing that gap to open, Paterson was able to walk through our defence and it kept Halford in play.

A top defender like Kompany or Mertesacker would have moved forward with Mills. Staying back served no purpose and it's an even bigger mistake for someone as slow as Knight to make.

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by Prufrock » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:10 pm

:lol: yeah, the well known 'charge defence'. Just like the mobile Mertesacker would have.
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Re: Forest match thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:12 pm

Prufrock wrote::lol: yeah, the well known 'charge defence'. Just like the mobile Mertesacker would have.
Aye playing a high line is particularly effective against midfield runners like Paterson.....errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :roll:

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Re: Forest match thread

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:32 pm

Knight got miles nearer stopping the goal from the position he took up than he would've done if he'd been level with Mills

If we're just looking for folk to blame, let's drag Lonergan in - from the moment the pass is played, Patterson covers 18 yards while Lonergan covers 8
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