Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

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Re: Poor due diligence at best, at worst.....very scary

Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:53 am

midnitefooty wrote:I think you'll find a lot of companies have a "dark side" to them. Once you start trying to pick and choose, you're not going to end up with much.

Is child labour an issue for you? A lot of chocolate companies take no responsibility for child labour. Thankfully, companies like Nike and Adidas seem to be fairly responsible. Don't know about Reebok though :)

Only because they were rumbled! Was it their African or indian "factory" that got stumbled across? cannot remember,

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:18 pm

The one with the munitions warehouse?
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Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:37 pm

Weren't most footballs made in India at one time using almost slave labour?
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Post by BwfcDan » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:47 pm

Lofthouse Lower wrote:Shady corporate deals at BWFC

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Post by Lennon'sEleven » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:50 pm

I'm a little uncomfortable about this.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:54 pm

As DSB points out I think most of us will be a bit hypocritical condemning a deal like this over ethical grounds.

End of the day football fans in general are happy to go and watch new players, without ever questioning too much where the money has come from to pay for them. How it was earned, who earned it etc etc....

I imagine for fans of most premiership clubs, they probably shouldn't dig too far as they probably won't like the answers. I wonder how many truly ethical large companies there are out there prepared to invest in football clubs? My guess is not enough to go round.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:19 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Weren't most footballs made in India at one time using almost slave labour?
Don't know about that, Tango, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

A friend of mine is a buyer for a company that supplies a large sports retailer that has a feint whiff of pies about it. Large parts of her time are spent out in Blangladesh. As part of her remit, whilst she's out there discussing designs and whatnot she carries out 'ethical factory surveys', but as she says, she ultimately hasn't a clue what's going on as soon as she's not there.
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Post by Annoyed Grunt » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:28 pm

It seems Hitler and the Nazi trade union had a hand in Volkswagen's formation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... BCbelwagen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:29 pm

Porsche made tanks if you're thinking of getting one.

And BMW aero engines.

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Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:31 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:It seems Hitler and the Nazi trade union had a hand in Volkswagen's formation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... BCbelwagen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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It isn't a difficult distinction to make.

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Post by Annoyed Grunt » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:37 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:It seems Hitler and the Nazi trade union had a hand in Volkswagen's formation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... BCbelwagen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Burn them all!!!!

It isn't a difficult distinction to make.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_tense" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Just pointing out as others have, the majority of companies aren't whiter than white, wether currently or historically.

But cheers for the lesson though.

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Post by Prufrock » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:28 am

I can see the value of the current horrorshow argument. And if I had a team of folk dedicated to PR I'd be livid if I was linked to one. The whole VW, Siemens Fanta thang is balls.
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:04 am

It seems to me that large multinational organizations have many different divisions that are entirely unconnected with one another. We are being sponsored by the solar energy chaps, not the evil mine manufacturers. Solar energy is good, green, sustainable, etc. What I can't understand is how solar energy would work in Bolton, where days (months?) go by with no sun and the long winter nights at your latitude. Still, I was enlightened when I raised similar amounts of incomprehension about air conditioning, so I'm willing to be enlightened over this.
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Post by P.O.S. » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:08 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:It seems Hitler and the Nazi trade union had a hand in Volkswagen's formation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... BCbelwagen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by TKIZ! » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:14 pm

Prufrock wrote:I can see the value of the current horrorshow argument. And if I had a team of folk dedicated to PR I'd be livid if I was linked to one. The whole VW, Siemens Fanta thang is balls.
Why is it balls? Because it's historical? Have any of those companies paid reparations to anyone? Doubt it.
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Post by Annoyed Grunt » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:26 pm

P.O.S. wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:It seems Hitler and the Nazi trade union had a hand in Volkswagen's formation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... BCbelwagen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Burn them all!!!!

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:59 am

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so the fact that it is a different part of a conglomerate is not relevant? or the fact they haven’t made them since 2000? or the fact they were made solely to defend the border with North Korea, the most mental rogue state in the world? Or that the law on Korea compensates anyone injured, though why you’d be in the DMZ I don’t know. Perhaps people should refuse to accept the Nobel prize because Alfred Nobel invented dynamite and that’s been weaponised too? And what about the people that die each year from alcohol related diseases, should we decline the money from the League Cup sponsors? I hope when your knee jerked you didn’t kick yourself in the face.
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:01 am

ps Dick McCormick is an Iles
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:11 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:
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so the fact that it is a different part of a conglomerate is not relevant? or the fact they haven’t made them since 2000? or the fact they were made solely to defend the border with North Korea, the most mental rogue state in the world? Or that the law on Korea compensates anyone injured, though why you’d be in the DMZ I don’t know. Perhaps people should refuse to accept the Nobel prize because Alfred Nobel invented dynamite and that’s been weaponised too? And what about the people that die each year from alcohol related diseases, should we decline the money from the League Cup sponsors? I hope when your knee jerked you didn’t kick yourself in the face.
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Post by keveh » Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:38 am

Wise word indeed, shame he was a bully as well.
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