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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:06 pm

I know we lost but there are a lot of positives we can take from that. Outplaying Everton for 80 odd minutes it's a significant achievement and it's hopefully something we can build on. Great to see Sordell getting goals, and both Holden and Vela getting game time. Hopefully those two are on the bench for our next Championship game.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by norm the jedi » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:10 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:I know we lost but there are a lot of positives we can take from that. Outplaying Everton for 80 odd minutes it's a significant achievement and it's hopefully something we can build on. Great to see Sordell getting goals, and both Holden and Vela getting game time. Hopefully those two are on the bench for our next Championship game.
Agreed there were some good things to hang our hat on but they had more possession more shots on target and nearly twice as many corners.. one of which lead to the winner I think Outplayed for 80 minutes is a bit optimistic on that basis :wink:
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Norpig » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:18 pm

Thought we played very good today the midfield controlled large portions of the game pity we let that late goal as we deserved something from the game

Vela played excellent today and deserves to be at least on the subs bench if not starting

Sordell has got to start against Watford KD has had his day it's time for a new breed. Diesel gave us movement and spees today oh and he can score!

Hopefully we can start playing as well as this in the Championship onwards and upwards!

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Post by 89bwfc89 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:23 pm

Loads of Everton in the home ends, not being discreet either. I fcking hate them. We played really well, so unlucky to lose that.

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:23 pm

norm the jedi wrote:
Agreed there were some good things to hang our hat on but they had more possession more shots on target and nearly twice as many corners.. one of which lead to the winner I think Outplayed for 80 minutes is a bit optimistic on that basis :wink:
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:25 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
norm the jedi wrote:
Agreed there were some good things to hang our hat on but they had more possession more shots on target and nearly twice as many corners.. one of which lead to the winner I think Outplayed for 80 minutes is a bit optimistic on that basis :wink:
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:26 pm

It's all my fault......I asked, with 5 minutes to go, about the possibility of going to the replay.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:28 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:It's all my fault......I asked, with 5 minutes to go, about the possibility of going to the replay.
Without saying "domed" :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Post by Athers » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:32 pm

Was their goal the same way Gardner scored late on for Sunderland?
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Post by Annoyed Grunt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:33 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:It's all my fault......I asked, with 5 minutes to go, about the possibility of going to the replay.
Without saying "domed" :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:57 pm

A decent run-down, with player ratings, from one of the match-goers would be much appreciated.
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Re: Everton In The Cup

Post by thebish » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:06 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:I know we lost but there are a lot of positives we can take from that. Outplaying Everton for 80 odd minutes it's a significant achievement and it's hopefully something we can build on.
when are we actually gonna do this building on the positives that people keep talking about?

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Post by norm the jedi » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:16 pm

thebish wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I know we lost but there are a lot of positives we can take from that. Outplaying Everton for 80 odd minutes it's a significant achievement and it's hopefully something we can build on.
when are we actually gonna do this building on the positives that people keep talking about?
probably when we have a 25 goal a season striker because at the mo we seem to be in most games enough to win without converting good opportunities or developing half chances from feck all.. we keep hitting the goalie..
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Post by thebish » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:17 pm

norm the jedi wrote:
thebish wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:I know we lost but there are a lot of positives we can take from that. Outplaying Everton for 80 odd minutes it's a significant achievement and it's hopefully something we can build on.
when are we actually gonna do this building on the positives that people keep talking about?
probably when we have a 25 goal a season striker because at the mo we seem to be in most games enough to win without converting good opportunities or developing half chances from feck all.. we keep hitting the goalie..
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:32 pm

Those who say 'what progress' only needed to turn up today and watch.

Superb performance against what, 5th best team in the land? Certainly top 8.

We deserved more than we got.

Vela, Alonso, Lee and Sordell all excellent. Sordell noticeably tired late on.

Eagles needs dropping though, he was awful.

We are getting there. A rugged no nonsense centre half and we may have won today. Was clear how we struggled when Felaini went up top. Couldn't handle his physicality for the last few minutes.

Today we had shape. A system. A pattern of play. We passed it kept it, moved and played.

Excellent.

But there is also the fact that Everton gave us more time on the ball to do all that than say Millwall did.

We need to translate that performance into the hustle and bustle of the championship, where teams come specifically to stop us playing.

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Post by LeverEnd » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:51 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:A decent run-down, with player ratings, from one of the match-goers would be much appreciated.
Lonergan, 7, one excellent save, generally good communication, thought he might have claimed the ball before their winner but was at the other end and not seen it back
Ricketts, 6 worked hard but was on the back foot a lot
Alonso 9, superb touches, biggest attacking threat for much of it, defensively solid
Knight, 6 Ok, never fills you with confidence
Ream, 7 played well
Spearing, 7 as you'd expect, good 2nd half
Vela, 6 , solid but unspectacular, 80 mins good effort
Eagles 6, couple of runs but not much else
CYL, 8, used the ball well and gave Baines a game
Pratley, 6 worked hard made runs but lacks real quality
Sordell, 8 played well alone up front, some really nice touches and sharp for a tidy finish you wouldn't have seen from DN or KD

Good all round performance really, we deserved to win on 2nd half display but lack of a cutting edge and defensive frailty strikes again. not far off being a decent team I think. Middle 60 mins best i've seen from Bolton for a long time.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:30 pm

Athers wrote:Was their goal the same way Gardner scored late on for Sunderland?
Similar, only, when the ball came out to Gardner he had the time, space and requisite talent to pick out the top corner. Today's was more of a centre half's nose-bleed effort.
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Post by Leyther_Matt » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:34 pm

I would dispute Pratley lacking quality when considering his work in the build up for our goal.

Tremendous performance from the whole side. Criticism of Eagles is harsh, his ball across the box in the second half was crying out for a goal if Sordell had gone for broke and attacked it.

Playing against a Premier League side really does seem to suit our playing style, with a bit more structure when compared to the more hectic nature of the Championship.

Alonso was immense, and Vela did a very good job on restricting Fellaini's influence.

Everton fans a real classless bunch though, suppose the only saving grace is avoiding having to pay a fortune to go to that dump.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:35 pm

So proud of the lads today. 1 to 11 they all worked hard and for long periods dominated a team with Champs League ambitions. Alonso MotM for me but ran close by many. Ream & Vela both gave assured performances. Can't agree on Eagles, he's not back at the level he was at earlier in the season, but he worked b hard today in a difficult role.

On a negative note - Are there a bigger bunch of to55ers than Everton fans? Every time we play em, there's bother of some sort.
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Post by boltonboris » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:47 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Those who say 'what progress' only needed to turn up today and watch.

Superb performance against what, 5th best team in the land? Certainly top 8.

We deserved more than we got.

Vela, Alonso, Lee and Sordell all excellent. Sordell noticeably tired late on.

Eagles needs dropping though, he was awful.

We are getting there. A rugged no nonsense centre half and we may have won today. Was clear how we struggled when Felaini went up top. Couldn't handle his physicality for the last few minutes.

Today we had shape. A system. A pattern of play. We passed it kept it, moved and played.

Excellent.

But there is also the fact that Everton gave us more time on the ball to do all that than say Millwall did.

We need to translate that performance into the hustle and bustle of the championship, where teams come specifically to stop us playing.
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