The ianevattable sacking

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When does Evatt go?

Now, international break and time to save the season.
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Give him 10 more games, least he deserves.
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He’ll turn this around.
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After Duff dies him again - Hudds at home.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Spartan2 » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:34 pm

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I think we’re into turning our backs, not attending for first five minutes, chucking tennis balls on the pitch to get her to wake up and do something to be honest. Certainly this season.
I really hope so, the fans have to force her hand.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:41 pm

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When the home crowds start really turning she’ll be left with no choice. She’s showing more loyalty than 99% of owners would, but ultimately the fans dictate the fate of managers.
The more frequently and louder the fans chant anti Evatt songs as they apparently did yesterday at Mansfield - he will go, either voluntarily (agreeing a pay off etc) as his narcissistic personality won't be able to handle the 'we want Evatt Out', 'Ian Evatt your football is shite' chants OR the board will have to sack him as it will start to affect the players (although they can't get much worse) and get so toxic that they have to act.
Upsetting as it is to say - this is after all just people trying to do their job, and none of us would like to be howled at in our workplace - I'm afraid I have to agree that only the entoxification of the atmosphere, particularly at home games, might persuade Sharon that the project has gone bad. It's hard to give it the One Club One Town talk when the derision rains down.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:44 pm

Frank Drebin wrote:
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I’ve had a season ticket for 32 consecutive seasons.
If we don’t make the playoffs and SB doesn’t remove Evatt at season end, then the only option I have as fan is to vote with my feet.
Fair enough pal. I’m fortunate enough to not have to not bother now. Have to go to Rotherham but I can’t see me going Reebok again before season end.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by The_Gun » Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:16 pm

Lose the next three and I think the trigger gets pulled.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Mar » Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:20 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:16 pm
Lose the next three and I think the trigger gets pulled.
Rather that than lose three of the next nine sporadically and keep persisting with the same problems.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:03 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:41 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:44 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:35 pm
When the home crowds start really turning she’ll be left with no choice. She’s showing more loyalty than 99% of owners would, but ultimately the fans dictate the fate of managers.
The more frequently and louder the fans chant anti Evatt songs as they apparently did yesterday at Mansfield - he will go, either voluntarily (agreeing a pay off etc) as his narcissistic personality won't be able to handle the 'we want Evatt Out', 'Ian Evatt your football is shite' chants OR the board will have to sack him as it will start to affect the players (although they can't get much worse) and get so toxic that they have to act.
Upsetting as it is to say - this is after all just people trying to do their job, and none of us would like to be howled at in our workplace - I'm afraid I have to agree that only the entoxification of the atmosphere, particularly at home games, might persuade Sharon that the project has gone bad. It's hard to give it the One Club One Town talk when the derision rains down.
It already has? And she dug her heels in. I don’t think she’s going to change regardless. She might in the summer when they lose millions in ST sales but even then I wouldn’t bet on it.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:15 pm

Losing millions in ticket revenue?

That calls for another bond.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:53 pm

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Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:41 pm
Upsetting as it is to say - this is after all just people trying to do their job, and none of us would like to be howled at in our workplace - I'm afraid I have to agree that only the entoxification of the atmosphere, particularly at home games, might persuade Sharon that the project has gone bad. It's hard to give it the One Club One Town talk when the derision rains down.
It already has? And she dug her heels in. I don’t think she’s going to change regardless. She might in the summer when they lose millions in ST sales but even then I wouldn’t bet on it.
Considering the almost uniformly goalless and frequently gormless first halves served up at home, I think the Unibol crowds have been relatively kind.

Let me take you back, very aptly, to Phil Neal's last season. April 1992. It's the start of election week, and with Neil Kinnock's Labour party consistently in front (if only just) in the polls, the tang of overhaul is in the air. Bolton, having lost a play-off final 11 months earlier, are marooned in midtable - 12th, in fact. We've just lost two on the bounce, including 0-2 at home to Bournemouth, and are 10pts off the playoffs. If we think that's bad, imagine being our hosts, West Brom. They're loitering in 8th, in their first-ever season below the second tier – having been relegated the previous season under Bobby Gould, who's somehow still in charge despite being despised by every Baggies fan.

Anyway. There's still 10,000 on at the Hawthorns - and mark you, this is only the third time that season we've played in front of a five-figure league crowd, all away (the others being at Stoke and the Christmas game at Huddersfield). It takes 15 minutes for West Brom to go in front, and less than 30 seconds of their home fans celebrating before they all, apparently to a man, adopted the Bread of Heaven tune and belted out "We still hate you, Bobby Gould." More than an hour later, after they've watched our 10 men (Mark Patterson getting first go of the soap before half past three) go 2-1 up, the home fans will welcome a late equaliser with the same pattern - celebrate then berate.

Both teams stay down. Both teams change their manager in summer. Both teams go up the next season. Just sayin', like.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:08 pm

We finished 13th, was it? Stockport and Huddersfield in the play-offs. Birmingham in the autos.

Does that mean the new Walker and McGinlay are due to show up any minute?

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:31 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:53 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:03 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:41 pm
Upsetting as it is to say - this is after all just people trying to do their job, and none of us would like to be howled at in our workplace - I'm afraid I have to agree that only the entoxification of the atmosphere, particularly at home games, might persuade Sharon that the project has gone bad. It's hard to give it the One Club One Town talk when the derision rains down.
It already has? And she dug her heels in. I don’t think she’s going to change regardless. She might in the summer when they lose millions in ST sales but even then I wouldn’t bet on it.
Considering the almost uniformly goalless and frequently gormless first halves served up at home, I think the Unibol crowds have been relatively kind.

Let me take you back, very aptly, to Phil Neal's last season. April 1992. It's the start of election week, and with Neil Kinnock's Labour party consistently in front (if only just) in the polls, the tang of overhaul is in the air. Bolton, having lost a play-off final 11 months earlier, are marooned in midtable - 12th, in fact. We've just lost two on the bounce, including 0-2 at home to Bournemouth, and are 10pts off the playoffs. If we think that's bad, imagine being our hosts, West Brom. They're loitering in 8th, in their first-ever season below the second tier – having been relegated the previous season under Bobby Gould, who's somehow still in charge despite being despised by every Baggies fan.

Anyway. There's still 10,000 on at the Hawthorns - and mark you, this is only the third time that season we've played in front of a five-figure league crowd, all away (the others being at Stoke and the Christmas game at Huddersfield). It takes 15 minutes for West Brom to go in front, and less than 30 seconds of their home fans celebrating before they all, apparently to a man, adopted the Bread of Heaven tune and belted out "We still hate you, Bobby Gould." More than an hour later, after they've watched our 10 men (Mark Patterson getting first go of the soap before half past three) go 2-1 up, the home fans will welcome a late equaliser with the same pattern - celebrate then berate.

Both teams stay down. Both teams change their manager in summer. Both teams go up the next season. Just sayin', like.
I can’t remember a manager receiving more obvious widespread discontent at a home game than Evatt did bar Megson. Perhaps I’m misremembering. I mean McFarland got some nasty treatment from some behind the dugout as I suspect a few others have. Plenty of moans. Plenty of ‘hate the manager’ things said. But I’m just not sure you will get much more widespread discontent from Bolton fans than has been seen already. You had the home fans chanting against him at home against Wigan. Away fans yesterday called for his head.

Whilst I suspect that is kind in the sort of ‘broad football sense’ its probably up there for Bolton fans.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:33 pm

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Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:08 pm
We finished 13th, was it? Stockport and Huddersfield in the play-offs. Birmingham in the autos.

Does that mean the new Walker and McGinlay are due to show up any minute?
It’s the new Rioch we need. More than anything. The chosen one to lead the club out of the doldrums.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:56 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:33 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:08 pm
We finished 13th, was it? Stockport and Huddersfield in the play-offs. Birmingham in the autos.

Does that mean the new Walker and McGinlay are due to show up any minute?
It’s the new Rioch we need. More than anything. The chosen one to lead the club out of the doldrums.
No pressure then :D

To Ghost's point, Walker was already at the club - as were Tony Kelly, Scott Green, Mark Patterson, Phil Brown, Mark Seagraves, Alan Stubbs and a young stripling called Jason McAteer, all of whom played major roles (many now forgotten) in the immediately subsequent promotion. The tools were there (with literally about three judicious additions), it's just that the manager had run out of inspiration.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:02 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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To Ghost's point, Walker was already at the club - as were Tony Kelly, Scott Green, Mark Patterson, Phil Brown, Mark Seagraves, Alan Stubbs and a young stripling called Jason McAteer, all of whom played major roles (many now forgotten) in the immediately subsequent promotion. The tools were there (with literally about three judicious additions), it's just that the manager had run out of inspiration.
Not seeing a Jason McAteer, but we have lads who can very clearly get a team out of this division with the right leadership.

Collins is an obvious one. Out of sorts in a crap side and scoring goals regardless.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Frank Drebin » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:04 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
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Frank Drebin wrote:
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I’ve had a season ticket for 32 consecutive seasons.
If we don’t make the playoffs and SB doesn’t remove Evatt at season end, then the only option I have as fan is to vote with my feet.
Fair enough pal. I’m fortunate enough to not have to not bother now. Have to go to Rotherham but I can’t see me going Reebok again before season end.
I don’t blame anyone not going these days, Evatt’s brand of football is dull and we’ve been rumbled by other savvy managers. Not only dull but ineffective and so predictable.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:12 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:02 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:56 pm
To Ghost's point, Walker was already at the club - as were Tony Kelly, Scott Green, Mark Patterson, Phil Brown, Mark Seagraves, Alan Stubbs and a young stripling called Jason McAteer, all of whom played major roles (many now forgotten) in the immediately subsequent promotion. The tools were there (with literally about three judicious additions), it's just that the manager had run out of inspiration.
Not seeing a Jason McAteer, but we have lads who can very clearly get a team out of this division with the right leadership.

Collins is an obvious one. Out of sorts in a crap side and scoring goals regardless.
The problem is that for all his goals and finishing prowess McGinlay worked three times harder than Collins does. And did so I’m guessing more or less because he was scared what Bruce would do to him if he didn’t.

We don’t have imo many of the players in the list DSB supplied.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jan 03, 2025 4:23 pm

The closest player we have to McGinlay is Dion Charles. Which is why Super John loves him so
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by GhostoftheBok » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:08 pm

Salt of the earth our lot. No reason for the staff and players to have an issue with any of them...

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Harry Genshaw » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:23 pm

What a pillock.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:52 pm

Absolutely ridiculous. Mind boggles at times.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Mar » Sat Jan 04, 2025 12:39 am

I'd imagine it was intended as a joke, not exactly something you joke about though. Mental.

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