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Freedman, sack or keep?

Poll ended at Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:36 am

Sack
52
78%
Keep
15
22%
 
Total votes: 67

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:49 am

William the White wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He doesn't think he's making mistakes though. That's the worrying bit
This in a nutshell....

Also apparently Gartside has actually e-mailed a fan today (from WWays) saying 'We are getting the club on the right track and Dougie is the right man for the job'

Dumb & Dumber....absolutely astonishing ! - it's no wonder the club is on its arse and turning fans off in droves.
The right track, for Gartside, is simply a reduced deficit, lower wages, lower outgoings
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One that his express trans penine train is on!

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:51 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You don't understand bonuses do you? For them to work there has to be at least a gamblers chance of achieving the goal. Can you honestly, hand on heart see our useless shower achieving more than 10th place, let alone promotion?
I don't think he's a banker AT.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:50 am

Hoboh wrote:
William the White wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He doesn't think he's making mistakes though. That's the worrying bit
This in a nutshell....

Also apparently Gartside has actually e-mailed a fan today (from WWays) saying 'We are getting the club on the right track and Dougie is the right man for the job'

Dumb & Dumber....absolutely astonishing ! - it's no wonder the club is on its arse and turning fans off in droves.
The right track, for Gartside, is simply a reduced deficit, lower wages, lower outgoings
.
One that his express trans penine train is on!
Well, I doubt he'd be likely to email a fan saying "you know .... just between us ... he's shite and we're planning to get rid.".

The fact he replied shows they are aware of the disquiet ... as they bloody should be of course. I suspect he really means they want to stick with him, but it's getting harder and harder to do. 3 losses in the next four and he's indefensible. .... & no, I don't want us to lose. I just want us to have a chance.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Peter Thompson » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:00 am

bobo the clown wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
William the White wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
boltonboris wrote:He doesn't think he's making mistakes though. That's the worrying bit
This in a nutshell....

Also apparently Gartside has actually e-mailed a fan today (from WWays) saying 'We are getting the club on the right track and Dougie is the right man for the job'

Dumb & Dumber....absolutely astonishing ! - it's no wonder the club is on its arse and turning fans off in droves.
The right track, for Gartside, is simply a reduced deficit, lower wages, lower outgoings
.
One that his express trans penine train is on!
Well, I doubt he'd be likely to email a fan saying "you know .... just between us ... he's shite and we're planning to get rid.".

The fact he replied shows they are aware of the disquiet ... as they bloody should be of course. I suspect he really means they want to stick with him, but it's getting harder and harder to do. 3 losses in the next four and he's indefensible. .... & no, I don't want us to lose. I just want us to have a chance.
Whilst I agree that he's not likely to come out with that for obvious reasons...the actual e-mail was in response to a complaint about a flag at the Macron, therefore IMO there was no need for Gartside to even mention Freedman in his response or say anything about being on the right track - never mind being the right man for the job, he could have simply just kept his e-mail response to the flag issue

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:02 am

Very odd indeed. Showing even more clear the pressure they feel.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:29 am

which kinda counters the idea that none of them actually care anymore...

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Hoboh » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:40 am

thebish wrote:which kinda counters the idea that none of them actually care anymore...
Or they are crapping it at being rumbled!

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:54 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You don't understand bonuses do you? For them to work there has to be at least a gamblers chance of achieving the goal. Can you honestly, hand on heart see our useless shower achieving more than 10th place, let alone promotion?
We still have a better team than someone like Derby, and look how well they did last season under good management so, yes, we do have a chance. It's difficult to rate the players accurately under such an appalling manager anyway.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by TKIZ! » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:55 pm

I'd have this fella in charge now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (managed Brum very well when they were in all sorts of trouble)
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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:56 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You don't understand bonuses do you? For them to work there has to be at least a gamblers chance of achieving the goal. Can you honestly, hand on heart see our useless shower achieving more than 10th place, let alone promotion?
We still have a better team than someone like Derby, and look how well they did last season under good management so, yes, we do have a chance. It's difficult to rate the players accurately under such an appalling manager anyway.
I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:58 pm

TKIZ! wrote:I'd have this fella in charge now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (managed Brum very well when they were in all sorts of trouble)
Would he come?

I still think we're more likely to 'promote' a lower-league manager than hire someone who might think himself Premier League.

And I think the time might be drawing near to assess our options.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:00 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
SmokinFrazier wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:You don't understand bonuses do you? For them to work there has to be at least a gamblers chance of achieving the goal. Can you honestly, hand on heart see our useless shower achieving more than 10th place, let alone promotion?
We still have a better team than someone like Derby, and look how well they did last season under good management so, yes, we do have a chance. It's difficult to rate the players accurately under such an appalling manager anyway.
I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here.
More ridiculous than 'Freedman is/will be a better manager than Allardyce'? Do you still believe that, by the way?

And, no, we do have a better team than Derby.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by twilight » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:02 pm

He gotta go!

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:03 pm

twilight wrote:He gotta go!
Who? Insane or Frazier?

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by TKIZ! » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:05 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:I'd have this fella in charge now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (managed Brum very well when they were in all sorts of trouble)
Would he come?

I still think we're more likely to 'promote' a lower-league manager than hire someone who might think himself Premier League.

And I think the time might be drawing near to assess our options.
James Beattie?
Pfffft.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by TKIZ! » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:11 pm

To be fair to Hughton he took over at Brum when they had been relegated from the Premier League
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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:12 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
And, no, we do have a better team than Derby.
I really don't know how on earth such a thing can possibly be measured either way other than how high up the league they are.. it really sounds a bit meaningless...

care to outline the calculation process by which you arrive at such an asserion?

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by IggyTheDawgster » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:13 pm

I'd have Chris Hughton in a heartbeat.
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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by TKIZ! » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:14 pm

IggyTheDawgster wrote:I'd have Chris Hugton in a heartbeat.
The campaign starts here? I'd also like to see Gartside gone
Pfffft.

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Re: The New Freedman Poll

Post by thebish » Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:15 pm

Hughton - we have a problem?

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