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Post by Penny » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:13 pm

communistworkethic wrote:top 10 ranked 5 out of 13 year career,
ranking high of 6 in 2004. #
Furthest progressed in a grand slam - Semi final,
career wins 13 - 2 challenge tour, 10 atp, 1 masters series,
last tournament win oct 2003

is that success? Or do some rate mediocrity to highly? you decide
Well I guess if a footballer was ranked as one of the top 10 players in the world 5 times in a 13 year career you would say he was an outstanding player and had an amazing career ?

I don't really see how being a top 10 player in the world at what is a true world game for over a third of your career can be classed as mediocre.

Having said that for the talent he had he probably should have won more than he did (or has so far ?).

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:37 pm

He's just won apparently.
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Post by Penny » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:47 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:He's just won apparently.
Yes 13 - 11 after another Henman roller coaster ride. The draws for the next two rounds don't look too bad, if he can keep up his performance levels, so the second week is a possibility....after that who knows ?

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:49 pm

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Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:He's just won apparently.
Yes 13 - 11 after another Henman roller coaster ride. The draws for the next two rounds don't look too bad, if he can keep up his performance levels, so the second week is a possibility....after that who knows ?
That bloke he played any good is he?
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Post by communistworkethic » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:51 pm

moya's ranked about 22 (50 higher than Tigger), former world number 1 (1999) but not a grass court player by any stretch of the imagination

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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:51 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:
Penny wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:He's just won apparently.
Yes 13 - 11 after another Henman roller coaster ride. The draws for the next two rounds don't look too bad, if he can keep up his performance levels, so the second week is a possibility....after that who knows ?
That bloke he played any good is he?
Carlos Moya is the former world No 1 but getting is a little old now (Not unlike Tim).

A good match to watch.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:51 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:
Penny wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:He's just won apparently.
Yes 13 - 11 after another Henman roller coaster ride. The draws for the next two rounds don't look too bad, if he can keep up his performance levels, so the second week is a possibility....after that who knows ?
That bloke he played any good is he?
One of the better clay court players of the past decade. He played better than he's ever played on grass before. Was a good match

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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:52 pm

communistworkethic wrote:moya's ranked about 22 (50 higher than Tigger), former world number 1 (1999) but not a grass court player by any stretch of the imagination
Beat me to it again. :whack:

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Post by communistworkethic » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:52 pm

moya's 2 years younger than timbo

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Post by Bench » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:54 pm

Daxter wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
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communistworkethic wrote:top 10 ranked 5 out of 13 year career,
ranking high of 6 in 2004. #
Furthest progressed in a grand slam - Semi final,
career wins 13 - 2 challenge tour, 10 atp, 1 masters series,
last tournament win oct 2003

is that success? Or do some rate mediocrity to highly? you decide
I'd say it is success. He's just been able to translate it to the grandest stage. To describe his career as mediocre is hars in my opinion.
you mean "not been able"??
Yes. Sorry.
Turning this debate on it's head, there are plenty who describe Hunt as being mediocre, and yet he has consistently featured for a Top 8 Premiership side that has qualified for European football twice.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:55 pm

communistworkethic wrote:moya's 2 years younger than timbo
had lots of injuries the last 2 years though

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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:55 pm

communistworkethic wrote:moya's 2 years younger than timbo
Yes 2 years younger than Henman but is still 31 and soon to be 32. Both a bit younger than me but pretty old to be playing tennis at the top level.

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Post by Penny » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:01 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote: That bloke he played any good is he?
Tennis not your thing SOTWA ?

To be fair Moya isn't a grass court specialist but considering Henman has barely won a match all year any win was welcome and a win against a seeded player even more so.

Henman will be blown away these days by the likes of Federer but it would be nice to see him make the second week.

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Post by boltonboris » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:04 pm

Penny wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:top 10 ranked 5 out of 13 year career,
ranking high of 6 in 2004. #
Furthest progressed in a grand slam - Semi final,
career wins 13 - 2 challenge tour, 10 atp, 1 masters series,
last tournament win oct 2003

is that success? Or do some rate mediocrity to highly? you decide
Well I guess if a footballer was ranked as one of the top 10 players in the world 5 times in a 13 year career you would say he was an outstanding player and had an amazing career ?

I don't really see how being a top 10 player in the world at what is a true world game for over a third of your career can be classed as mediocre.

Having said that for the talent he had he probably should have won more than he did (or has so far ?).
Sort of agree, But how many proffessional footballers are there in the world in camparison to tennis players? theres probably more teams than there are tennis players, and the average squad size must be around 20 per team

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:05 pm

Penny wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote: That bloke he played any good is he?
Tennis not your thing SOTWA ?

To be fair Moya isn't a grass court specialist but considering Henman has barely won a match all year any win was welcome and a win against a seeded player even more so.

Henman will be blown away these days by the likes of Federer but it would be nice to see him make the second week.
Not really, I'll switch it on in the latter stages of Wimbledon if there are any British players left (so hardly ever) I think that Murrey fella's our next big hope isn't he?
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Post by Penny » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:07 pm

Bench wrote: Turning this debate on it's head, there are plenty who describe Hunt as being mediocre, and yet he has consistently featured for a Top 8 Premiership side that has qualified for European football twice.
So you're suggesting a transfer to Wimbledon for Nicky or are you suggesting he takes up tennis ? :wink:

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Post by Verbal » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:37 pm

Bench wrote:
Daxter wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
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communistworkethic wrote:top 10 ranked 5 out of 13 year career,
ranking high of 6 in 2004. #
Furthest progressed in a grand slam - Semi final,
career wins 13 - 2 challenge tour, 10 atp, 1 masters series,
last tournament win oct 2003

is that success? Or do some rate mediocrity to highly? you decide
I'd say it is success. He's just been able to translate it to the grandest stage. To describe his career as mediocre is hars in my opinion.
you mean "not been able"??
Yes. Sorry.
Turning this debate on it's head, there are plenty who describe Hunt as being mediocre, and yet he has consistently featured for a Top 8 Premiership side that has qualified for European football twice.
Tim cannot rely on a team of ten other players though to carry him though. He can make some good tackles if he wants to, but his distribution has been shocking this season.

Henman's been a credit to British tennis and it will be sad to see him go, even if Murray goes on to dominate the world stage. He may not win prolifically, but for a good few years he was there or there abouts which earns him his past rankings. The way he handles the pressure too is admirable.
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Post by Bench » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:40 pm

Agreed. Conversely, I think the way that Hunt handles the pressure and abuse heaped on him by Bowton fans is admirable. Either that or he's tone-deaf.
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Post by cowdrill » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:24 pm

Lennon wrote:I wish I could make a career out of never winning anything. I'm quite good at it.

he's won plenty - just not grand slams


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