Contract expiry

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Winter window 2016 is but a memory. Here's who we have left, and for how long.

Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.

2016
Paul Rachubka
Ross Fitzsimons (on loan at Bishops Stortford until 8 Feb)
Hayden White (loaned to Blackpool until June)
David Wheater
Quade Taylor
Neil Danns
Jordan Lussey
Liam Feeney
Wellington Silva (season-long loan from Arsenal)
Rob Hall (loaned to McDons until June)
Emile Heskey
Stephen Dobbie
Tom Eaves

2017
Lawrie Wilson
Francesco Pisano (loaned to US Avellino 1912 until June)
Dorian Dervite
Dean Moxey
Josh Vela
Filip Twardzik
Jay Spearing
Liam Trotter
Mark Davies
Gary Madine
Max Clayton

2018
Derik Osede
Darren Pratley
Conor Wilkinson

2019
Ben Amos
Zach Clough

Kaiyne Woolery: Transfermarkt says 2016, can't find corroboration. Same for Rob Holding and Oscar Threlkeld, who's on loan at Plymouth until April 9th.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You seem to be missing three (or four) players there DSB.

Alex Finney - contract to June 2016
Tom Walker - contract to June 2017
Andy Hughes -
(that third goalie - Campbell?)

[Dr Hotdog]

I've seen reports in the past couple of days that Holding's contract is up this summer.

[Little Green Man]

You seem to be missing three (or four) players there DSB.

Alex Finney
Tom Walker
Andy Hughes
(that third goalie - Campbell?)

Hughes jumped ship a few weeks ago.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

You seem to be missing three (or four) players there DSB.

Alex Finney
Tom Walker
Andy Hughes
(that third goalie - Campbell?)

Some fair calls. Andy Hughes was the auld fella brought in by Freedman as player / youth coach - he's now at Rotherham. The goalkeeper is 20-year-old Harry Campbell, who was on the bench for the Eastleigh replay but hasn't played a competitive minute; I don't really fancy chasing up all the Development contracts, and it'd cloud the picture a bit. Tom Walker's a good shout though, and Alex Finney.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Alex Finney - contract to June 2016
Tom Walker - contract to June 2017

Got any links for those, Spotty? This report says the club didn't specify contract lengths when signing up Walker, Holding, Channing Campbell-Young and possibly goalie Campbell - but as Dr Hotdog notes, the BN has recently said that Holding's contract is up in June.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Alex Finney - contract to June 2016
Tom Walker - contract to June 2017

Got any links for those, Spotty? This report says the club didn't specify contract lengths when signing up Walker, Holding, Channing Campbell-Young and possibly goalie Campbell - but as Dr Hotdog notes, the BN has recently said that Holding's contract is up in June.

Sorry no. They're dates I've got scribbled on an A4 sheet pinned behind my desk at work. I must have got all the dates from somewhere but i've not put my sources on the sheet. I'd make a terrible research assistant with an attitude like that, eh?

[Lord Kangana]

Just so I can be clear on this, if (if) we were to enter administration, all of our players would be free to walk away would they not?

Are there any other circumstances (say non-payment) where it would also be the case?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Just so I can be clear on this, if (if) we were to enter administration, all of our players would be free to walk away would they not?

Are there any other circumstances (say non-payment) where it would also be the case?

Usual employment law:
By mutual agreement.
Constructive Dismissal.

[Lord Kangana]

Just thinking that there's still some big earners onboard in the likely event of our relegation to the 3rd tier. You could look at that as a positive (Mark Davies could be the new Zico), but I can't help feeling we'll just roll our problems over to next season.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

With addenda, including birth dates for some of the Development graduates. Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.

2016
Paul Rachubka
Ross Fitzsimons (on loan at Bishops Stortford until 8 Feb)
Rob Holding (dob 20/9/95)
Hayden White (dob 15/4/95; loaned to Blackpool until June)
Niall Maher (dob 31/7/95)
David Wheater
Quade Taylor (dob 11/12/93)
Neil Danns
Jordan Lussey (dob 2/11/94)
Liam Feeney
Wellington Silva (season-long loan from Arsenal)
Rob Hall (loaned to McDons until June)
Emile Heskey
Stephen Dobbie
Tom Eaves (dob 14/1/92)

2017
Lawrie Wilson
Francesco Pisano (loaned to US Avellino 1912 until June)
Dorian Dervite
Dean Moxey
Josh Vela (dob 14/12/93)
Filip Twardzik
Jay Spearing
Liam Trotter
Mark Davies
Gary Madine
Max Clayton

2018
Derik Osede
Darren Pratley
Conor Wilkinson (dob 23/1/95)

2019
Ben Amos
Zach Clough (dob 8/3/95)

Unknown
Oscar Threlkeld (dob 15/2/94): contract length unknown; Transfermarkt says 2016, can't find corroboration. On loan at Plymouth until April 9th
Alex Finney (dob 8/6/96): signed in Aug 2014, contract length unknown; Transfermarkt says 2016, can't find corroboration
Tom Walker (dob 12/12/95): signed in May 2015, contract length unknown
Kaiyne Woolery (dob 11/1/95): Transfermarkt says 2016, can't find corroboration.

[BWFC_Insane]

Just so I can be clear on this, if (if) we were to enter administration, all of our players would be free to walk away would they not?

Are there any other circumstances (say non-payment) where it would also be the case?

Under administration players HAVE to be paid before other creditors based on PFA rules. I'm not sure they can walk away in that situation, unless they don't receive pay.

[Lord Kangana]

Do they receive full contract value under the rules that govern football? I know in the normal world, employees are preferential creditors - but that's usually confined to paying outstanding monies and if they're lucky a notice period.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just so I can be clear on this, if (if) we were to enter administration, all of our players would be free to walk away would they not?

Are there any other circumstances (say non-payment) where it would also be the case?

Under administration players HAVE to be paid before other creditors based on PFA rules. I'm not sure they can walk away in that situation, unless they don't receive pay.

Do they receive full contract value under the rules that govern football? I know in the normal world, employees are preferential creditors - but that's usually confined to paying outstanding monies and if they're lucky a notice period.

I daresay deals could be struck, if both parties desire freedom.

[BWFC_Insane]

Do they receive full contract value under the rules that govern football? I know in the normal world, employees are preferential creditors - but that's usually confined to paying outstanding monies and if they're lucky a notice period.

I'm repeating what I've heard here and I haven't checked the rules, but I've heard that they have to be paid in full (to date) before anything else.

A quick check of wiki...

debts to other clubs or players are prioritised and must be paid in full before the club is eligible to compete again in the league.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Re Tom Walker:
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/12 ... Wanderers/
The relevant bit is:
"He has been rewarded with a pro deal alongside three other scholars [Yvan Wassi, Channing Campbell-Young, Harry Campbell], although the length of the contract has not been released by the club."

That there Transfermarkt has him up till end of June 2017, but I don't know where they've got that from, probably made it up.

[Lord Kangana]

Looking at those contracts, that means, unless suitors are found (for us or the players) we have a hell of a debt to meet - looking at, in no particular order, Pratley, Spearing and Davies. I guess they're still on hefty contracts.

[BWFC_Insane]

Looking at those contracts, that means, unless suitors are found (for us or the players) we have a hell of a debt to meet - looking at, in no particular order, Pratley, Spearing and Davies. I guess they're still on hefty contracts.

If the club isn't taken over it will have to enter administration or face liquidation. Unless of course, Eddie decides he will pump more money in.

That has been the clear reality for a while now. We can sell assets to get through a month or months, but without an injection of cash the business cannot continue to operate.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Looking at those contracts, that means, unless suitors are found (for us or the players) we have a hell of a debt to meet - looking at, in no particular order, Pratley, Spearing and Davies. I guess they're still on hefty contracts.

Yeah, I'd guess the only big one we're clearing this summer is Wheater. I'd expect Spearing and Davies to be a few notches above their fellow 2017 expirees Moxey and Dervite, and Pratley similarly to be on more than his fellow 2018er Derik. Yes, Pratley only renewed last summer, but he was a free agent, we'd been impressed by him and he didn't rush into renewing.

I was wondering if it was possible to start assessing (or second-guessing) our strengths, weaknesses and a possible XI for next season, but that might be a separate thread.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Marc Iles has done a similar piece in the BN, which tidies up a few missing contracts. Contracts until June unless otherwise stated. Corrections and clarifications (with citations) always welcome.

2016
Paul Rachubka
Ross Fitzsimons (on loan at Bishops Stortford until 8 Feb)
Hayden White (dob 15/4/95; loaned to Blackpool until June)
Niall Maher (dob 31/7/95)
Oscar Threlkeld (dob 15/2/94) On loan at Plymouth until April 9th
Rob Holding (dob 20/9/95)
Alex Finney (dob 8/6/96)
David Wheater
Quade Taylor (dob 11/12/93)
Neil Danns
Jordan Lussey (dob 2/11/94)
Tom Walker (dob 12/12/95)
Liam Feeney
Wellington Silva (season-long loan from Arsenal)
Rob Hall (loaned to McDons until June)
Emile Heskey
Stephen Dobbie
Tom Eaves (dob 14/1/92)
Kaiyne Woolery (dob 11/1/95)

2017
Lawrie Wilson
Francesco Pisano (loaned to US Avellino 1912 until June)
Dorian Dervite
Dean Moxey
Josh Vela (dob 14/12/93)
Filip Twardzik
Jay Spearing
Liam Trotter
Mark Davies
Gary Madine
Max Clayton

2018
Derik Osede
Darren Pratley
Conor Wilkinson (dob 23/1/95)

2019
Ben Amos
Zach Clough (dob 8/3/95)