This weeks RIP's........

clapton is god · Post by **clapton is god** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:01 am

^ Oh, blooming heck. I read about that on-line. Commiserations JC.

Hoboh · Post by **Hoboh** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:44 am

jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1

So very sorry mate, I read that and thought what a pair of heartless bastards the bus and first car drivers were.

RIP poor woman.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:32 pm

jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1

Wife and I know her brother well and have done for quite a lot of years. Really feel for him and may she rest in peace.

jonnycooper · Post by **jonnycooper** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:49 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
Wife and I know her brother well and have done for quite a lot of years. Really feel for him and may she rest in peace.

Tango! That would be Mark,her brother,a thoroughly nice man.Her son is flying back from Oz as I type!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:02 pm

jonnycooper wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
Wife and I know her brother well and have done for quite a lot of years. Really feel for him and may she rest in peace.
Tango! That would be Mark,her brother,a thoroughly nice man.Her son is flying back from Oz as I type!

Yes indeed it is. Wife was only talking with him a couple of days ago on a Bolton reminiscing site. Terrible thing to happen to anyone. Condolences to all his family.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:11 pm

jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member.. Shocked!!!

Sorry to hear this.
In Quebec we have a 'duty to rescue' law because our charter of rights includes the right to aid when in peril. Rescuers are covered by the 'Good Samaritan' law. Does the UK have any such obligation to render assistance? If so, those who drove round her would also be liable to prosecution.

jonnycooper · Post by **jonnycooper** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:15 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member.. Shocked!!!

Sorry to hear this.
In Quebec we have a 'duty to rescue' law because our charter of rights includes the right to aid when in peril. Rescuers are covered by the 'Good Samaritan' law. Does the UK have any such obligation to render assistance? If so, those who drove round her would also be liable to prosecution.

Absolutely none! But then society over here has generally become less caring...Shameful

clapton is god · Post by **clapton is god** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:19 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member.. Shocked!!!

Sorry to hear this.
In Quebec we have a 'duty to rescue' law because our charter of rights includes the right to aid when in peril. Rescuers are covered by the 'Good Samaritan' law. Does the UK have any such obligation to render assistance? If so, those who drove round her would also be liable to prosecution.

No, a moral obligation only. And we seem to have descended into a nation somewhat lacking in that department. How anyone could pass by without stopping I just do not begin to understand. High time it was legislated.

Lost Leopard Spot · Post by **Lost Leopard Spot** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:35 pm

A few things. I'm sorry to hear about the woman being killed, quite shocking. But I find it shocking that the third car killed her, and not necessarily because a bus and a car drove around her, it all depends on the exact circumstances. Last year in really icy weather I was driving and saw a bloke I knew go arse over. I was going to pull up and stop and help, but there were already three people helping him sit up and fussing over him so I drove on. Also quite a few years ago now, in the summer at night when it's getting dusk around ninish, me and at least twenty other cars, lorries etc drove around a person in the road on the A6. The police appealed for witnesses to what was a hit and run. It was none of the people who had driven around the bloke, he was already dead (or so the police believed) when that happened, but from a driver's perspective in a car travelling at forty mph the bloke didn't look like a bloke, he looked exactly like a bag of something that had fallen off a lorry. It was quite shocking to learn after the event it was a body in the road and not rubbish or a sack of potatoes - but that's what he looked like, exactly that - a large sack of potatoes. So it might not be callousness or indifference that caused the bus and car to continue. Then again it might, it depends on whether they'd seen her fall or not, whether people went to help her or not, and whether she looked like a person or not as they drove towards her and then around her.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:43 pm

clapton is god wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member.. Shocked!!!

Sorry to hear this.
In Quebec we have a 'duty to rescue' law because our charter of rights includes the right to aid when in peril. Rescuers are covered by the 'Good Samaritan' law. Does the UK have any such obligation to render assistance? If so, those who drove round her would also be liable to prosecution.
No, a moral, obligation only. And we seem to have descended into a nation somewhat lacking in that department. How anyone could pass by without stopping I just do not begin to understand. High time it was legislated.

Very strange. I've just looked it up and you are correct. It seems only certain civil law jurisdictions have the duty to rescue. In common law jurisdictions there seems no such obligation, except in 9 of the 50 US states who have passed laws. So the duty is only in Quebec and not the rest of Canada. In this case simply stopping in front of the person, putting on the four-way flashers and calling, over here, 911 would be enough. One needn't get out of the car if there is suspicion this is some sort of set-up or fear for one's own safety (a woman alone for instance).

malcd1 · Post by **malcd1** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:41 pm

An update about this accident. Someone who shouldn't have been on the road and also unfit to drive. Tw*t.

Bolton News wrote:Tinashe Irvine Chikoto, aged 22, of Devonshire Road in Atherton, has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving; failing to stop at the scene of a collision; failing to report a collision; causing death whilst unlicensed; driving a motor vehicle without insurance; driving whilst unfit through drugs; and perverting the course of justice

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:19 pm

I really hope they throw the book at this moron. To even allow defence to come up with some of the bollox they do to excuse him is an insult to intelligence. Put him away for a long time.

Lost Leopard Spot · Post by **Lost Leopard Spot** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:41 pm

Strangely I just assumed it was a she. Tinashe Irvine Chikoto? Sounds like a female of Nigerian heritage to me, but...

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:36 pm

jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1

I read about this yesterday. Absolutely unthinkable. I don't (think I) know Louise, but what a truly terrible and needless loss of life. RIP, and for her family's and your loss, Spotto.

Lost Leopard Spot · Post by **Lost Leopard Spot** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:46 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
I read about this yesterday. Absolutely unthinkable. I don't (think I) know Louise, but what a truly terrible and needless loss of life. RIP, and for her family's and your loss, Spotto.

Not mine Bruce, jonny's ( and Tango's friend).

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:54 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
I read about this yesterday. Absolutely unthinkable. I don't (think I) know Louise, but what a truly terrible and needless loss of life. RIP, and for her family's and your loss, Spotto.
Not mine Bruce, jonny's ( and Tango's friend).

Apologies, Jonny. (Nips upstairs to retrieve specs from jacket pocket

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TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:01 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
I read about this yesterday. Absolutely unthinkable. I don't (think I) know Louise, but what a truly terrible and needless loss of life. RIP, and for her family's and your loss, Spotto.
Not mine Bruce, jonny's ( and Tango's friend).

Friend's sister actually Spots. I know Mark quite well but hadn't met her. Gutted for him. Wife's been in touch with him today. What do you say that matters right now. Awful.

jonnycooper · Post by **jonnycooper** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:57 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
jonnycooper wrote:R.I.P Louise! A close friends family member..Shocked!!!http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/142 ... ef=mr&lp=1
I read about this yesterday. Absolutely unthinkable. I don't (think I) know Louise, but what a truly terrible and needless loss of life. RIP, and for her family's and your loss, Spotto.
Not mine Bruce, jonny's ( and Tango's friend).
Friend's sister actually Spots. I know Mark quite well but hadn't met her. Gutted for him. Wife's been in touch with him today. What do you say that matters right now. Awful.

Just got back from visiting the family member,who is absolutely devastated.Louise was such a nice lady and had been out in Bolton with her brother.Details are trying to be established but nothing will change anything! R.I.P Louise

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:45 pm

perhaps a technicality - but interesting...

Lord Lucan's son has just been issued with certificate for his dad... this means he can now become Lord Lucan...

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:33 pm

thebish wrote:perhaps a technicality - but interesting...

Lord Lucan's son has just been issued with certificate for his dad... this means he can now become Lord Lucan...

Will the police then arrest him.for the murder of the nanny ??

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