Brexit or Britin

[Hoboh]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

aye... we'll not know any more come June than we do now - we might as well vote tomorrow.

Even June is an attempt to cut and run before One and Half million reasons to leave hit the EU countries this summer!

[TANGODANCER]

I don't comment much on any politics threads, but know what makes me laugh (cry) about all this? We, as a nation vote for a government to run the country in the best interests of the British people. It's so good that immediately it comes into power the side that lost- "the opposition"..jump up and start hollering "Bollox" at every decision made. Joe public gets slated for every sort of government tax known to man that doesn't even end when we die. J.P pays income tax, council tax, water tax, get charged a fortune for transport, electricity etc, put up with crap services that the government have privatised and all the council officials and government officials, M.P's that make a living objecting to each others politics and then, at the end of the day they all turn round and say to joe public,( most of who in truth are undecided and confused due to no helpful directives) "What do you think we should do?. Let's have a vote!" Aren't all these people we vote in to run the country supposed to tell us what's best instead of asking us so they can blame us if it goes wrong?....In case your wondering I'm under "undecided". Its a sort of honest way of saying "I really haven't a clue!"

[thebish]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

aye... we'll not know any more come June than we do now - we might as well vote tomorrow.

Even June is an attempt to cut and run before One and Half million reasons to leave hit the EU countries this summer!

ahhh - that delayed coach!!

[Bruce Rioja]

Staying in EU 'exposes UK to Paris style terror risk', says Iain Duncan Smith.

How the feck do these people rise to the top of their professions?

[Dr Hotdog]

IDS is the most heartless c*nt (and there are plenty to choose from) in British Politics today. Arbeit macht frei, Iain. Nice one.

[Little Green Man]

IDS is the most heartless c*nt (and there are plenty to choose from) in British Politics today. Arbeit macht frei, Iain. Nice one.

It'd be a close run thing in a c*nt off between him and Chris Grayling. My money would be on the fishy Europhobe.

The Out lot do see to be an unsufferable shower of shitheads. They're only lacking Mandelson for the full set.

[Hoboh]

I think there are a lot of people waiting to be convinced either way. We know there will be lots of fear from both sides and lots of it'll be reet. There wont be much decent information and come the day folk will still be on the fence. Most on the fence will probably go with the status quo.

I can only hope Farrage and Boris et al fcuk off never to be heard of again...

aye... we'll not know any more come June than we do now - we might as well vote tomorrow.

Even June is an attempt to cut and run before One and Half million reasons to leave hit the EU countries this summer!

ahhh - that delayed coach!!

More than 100,000 refugees and migrants have arrived in Europe so far this year, at triple the rate of arrivals over the first half of 2015.

At least 102,500 have arrived on the Greek islands of Samos, Kos and Lesbos, according to the International Organisation for Migration (IOM). Another 7,500 have reached Italy, and in the first six weeks of the year 411 people are known to have died attempting to make the journey.

In 2015 the threshold of 100,000 arrivals was not reached until the end of June. As spring approaches and the weather improves, the rate of arrivals this year is expected to climb further.

[Bijou Bob]

I have to say, I was in London a few months ago and was staggered at the number of homeless Eatern Europeans (At a guess) that were hanging around the parks and gardens. Tavistock Square was intimidating to say the least. More than a coachful or three.

[Hoboh]

I have to say, I was in London a few months ago and was staggered at the number of homeless Eatern Europeans (At a guess) that were hanging around the parks and gardens. Tavistock Square was intimidating to say the least. More than a coachful or three.

Shusss, they don't really exist, just like the migrants in Greece!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'd quite like to know where your average Johnny Foreigner stands on all this malarkey.
I read recently that nearly fifty percent of Johanny Danes want the same as what we want - a referendum. So if 50% want a referendum I'm assuming even more than 50% want a Danexit.
Are Jeanny Froggy Foreigner, Johanny Bratwurst Foreigner and Janny Solidarnosc Foreigner all of the same opinion about our constant moaning or do they too have boeufs with the EU?
why don't we have Europe wide polls to inform us? What's wrong with a bit of transparency?
The first poll I'd like to see, just so as to gauge the national lunacy quotient would be a sample of 1000 people from each EU state, and broken down so that we can compare the different answers per nation, on the following question; Did America put a man on the moon in 1969? Yes, No, Don't Know?

[thebish]

I read this today in a book about Spirituality by the fabulous Brian D McClaren:

"On top of being conversant with the complexities of the theological systems I subscribed to, I needed to understand alternative systems enough to refute them (which often meant misunderstanding those systems enough to caricature them.)"

I think this is probably what we are pretty much all going to have to deal with for all the looooong slow months until June...

[bobo the clown]

^^ not Einstein then ??

[Harry Genshaw]

The upcoming trade union reform bill has a requirement that any proposed industrial action has to be supported by more than 50% of said union members. So as to "prevent the country being held to ransom by a few"

Being such a crucial and important decision, I assume the in/out ballot will require a similar endorsement?

[Worthy4England]

The upcoming trade union reform bill has a requirement that any proposed industrial action has to be supported by more than 50% of said union members. So as to "prevent the country being held to ransom by a few"

Being such a crucial and important decision, I assume the in/out ballot will require a similar endorsement?

Throw in general elections too...this Government elected on circa 25% of registered voters...not a poke at this Govt particularly - the Labour Govt's were in the same sort of territory. But really this is a case of what's good for the goose, they gander can fck right off on.

[Hoboh]

The upcoming trade union reform bill has a requirement that any proposed industrial action has to be supported by more than 50% of said union members. So as to "prevent the country being held to ransom by a few"

Being such a crucial and important decision, I assume the in/out ballot will require a similar endorsement?

Throw in general elections too...this Government elected on circa 25% of registered voters...not a poke at this Govt particularly - the Labour Govt's were in the same sort of territory. But really this is a case of what's good for the goose, they gander can fck right off on.

50% may happen if you make voting a legal 'must do' and by adding the I do not wish to vote for any of the above to the bottom of the form.

[Worthy4England]

^^ Think making it illegal not to, may only add to the amount of police work and what would we do if "none of the above" won?

Point is they're setting a standard that they themselves are not obliged to reach and I think only attained once/twice in history.

[Worthy4England]

^^ Think making it illegal not to, may only add to the amount of police work and what would we do if "none of the above" won?

Point is they're setting a standard that they themselves are not obliged to reach and I think only attained once/twice in history.

Edit: Actually they only exceeded 50% of the turn out a couple of times...not sure they've ever got 50% of people entitled to vote...

[Hoboh]

^^ Think making it illegal not to, may only add to the amount of police work and what would we do if "none of the above" won?

Point is they're setting a standard that they themselves are not obliged to reach and I think only attained once/twice in history.

£50 a fine would bring a few bob in, to deal with those who won't pay we can always indulge in population reduction and shoot them!

[Prufrock]

What's the point? If people don't want to vote, then why do we want to count it? They're just going to tick anything/ pick someone ridiculous on purpose.

[Worthy4England]

What's the point? If people don't want to vote, then why do we want to count it? They're just going to tick anything/ pick someone ridiculous on purpose.

I'm not fussed about that bit particularly - I'm more fussed about applying completely different rules for what "democratic" looks like to the TU's, when they don't apply to the Government...