Sports Shield - New Owners (Probably)

[Bruce Rioja]

@MarcIles: No decision yet on Sports Shield takeover. Football League requiring a lot of answers on Plan A and Plan B, Championship or League One #bwfc

What difference does it make to the Football League if we're in the Championship or League One? Either way we're still in the Football League.

It might be as stringent as the 'fit and proper persons test' that gave the thumbs-up to the deposed (get that on your list, Spottington ) leader of a country that's cool with child pornography and who is currently on the run from a two year jail term for corruption.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You've been asked a few times. What did Eddie change in the last weekend?

...And it really is beyond time you answered this...

...And it really is beyond time that you actually did answer this...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

@MarcIles: No decision yet on Sports Shield takeover. Football League requiring a lot of answers on Plan A and Plan B, Championship or League One #bwfc

What difference does it make to the Football League if we're in the Championship or League One? Either way we're still in the Football League.

It might be as stringent as the 'fit and proper persons test' that gave the thumbs-up to the deposed (get that on your list, Spottington ) leader of a country that's cool with child pornography and who is currently on the run from a two year jail term for corruption.

Added.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You've been asked a few times. What did Eddie change in the last weekend?

...And it really is beyond time you answered this...

...And it really is beyond time that you actually did answer this...

We are talking to you, BWFC_Deranged, answer the fxcking question....

[Worthy4England]

My claims are unsubstantiated. They are though based on logic. As you, yourself, admit, ED made the deal at the last minute. That's because he had a hand full of chancers and gambled against certain disaster otherwise.

My claims are reported by both Iles and Nixon. Iles claims to have spoken to sports shield several times about it. So I assume that he is reporting what they tell him.

The sports shield Twitter is also favouriting Iles' stories. Which would seem odd if he was talking absolute bollocks.

Now, you may claim those sources are rubbish. However, there is under any circumstances more substance to them than 'your logic'.

So basically, you haven't got a fcking clue then? Actually of your own? If he's reporting what they told him (and we don't know that as it's always listed as "a source") how many sides of the story do you think you're getting? One or both?

[BWFC_Insane]

My claims are unsubstantiated. They are though based on logic. As you, yourself, admit, ED made the deal at the last minute. That's because he had a hand full of chancers and gambled against certain disaster otherwise.

My claims are reported by both Iles and Nixon. Iles claims to have spoken to sports shield several times about it. So I assume that he is reporting what they tell him.

The sports shield Twitter is also favouriting Iles' stories. Which would seem odd if he was talking absolute bollocks.

Now, you may claim those sources are rubbish. However, there is under any circumstances more substance to them than 'your logic'.

So basically, you haven't got a fcking clue then? Actually of your own? If he's reporting what they told him (and we don't know that as it's always listed as "a source") how many sides of the story do you think you're getting? One or both?

Fine. Show me better evidence to back up a different set of events. Something stronger than two independent of each other journalists reporting the same thing with ones stories being pseudo endorsed by the new owners.

Show me something more concrete. Until then I will believe the news that is reported in this particular instance.

[thebish]

It is rather simple.
Sports Shield either have a workable Business Plan.
Or they don't.

But there is a less black and white option that they have to demonstrate to the league that their business plan is workable and go through that process. Christ it has only been just over a week. And football league committees aren't known for their speed.

no - they're not... but it was YOU who linked the FL delay to ED's alleged (but hitherto STILL unspecified) last minute changes to the deal...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ yes. Answer the question that Worthy has posed...

[thebish]

^ yes. Answer the question that Worthy has posed...

and I also asked thusly on page 12...

what exactly was it that changed about the deal in the "last minute"?

twice...

but - you seem to have missed a large part of my question...

What exactly was it that changed about the deal in the "last minute"? (the kind of thing that would necessitate this significant revision of SS's plan that you speak of...)

[Worthy4England]

My claims are unsubstantiated. They are though based on logic. As you, yourself, admit, ED made the deal at the last minute. That's because he had a hand full of chancers and gambled against certain disaster otherwise.

My claims are reported by both Iles and Nixon. Iles claims to have spoken to sports shield several times about it. So I assume that he is reporting what they tell him.

The sports shield Twitter is also favouriting Iles' stories. Which would seem odd if he was talking absolute bollocks.

Now, you may claim those sources are rubbish. However, there is under any circumstances more substance to them than 'your logic'.

So basically, you haven't got a fcking clue then? Actually of your own? If he's reporting what they told him (and we don't know that as it's always listed as "a source") how many sides of the story do you think you're getting? One or both?

Fine. Show me better evidence to back up a different set of events. Something stronger than two independent of each other journalists reporting the same thing with ones stories being pseudo endorsed by the new owners.

Show me something more concrete. Until then I will believe the news that is reported in this particular instance.

None of it is "evidence" - I guess that's where it's all fcking up for you - it's all "a source said". Couple of days before the hearing Nixon was running with Tamrasz...If you look across their tweet streams the last couple of weeks, and actually read what's there instead of only the bits that suit you, you'd see they disagreed about lots of things on the way - the fact that they might have agreed about one thing doesn't therefore make it true.

I don't have any evidence. Neither do you and nor do they in any sense that they've reported upon. In Mark Iles Q&A AFTER the court hearing, he said he didn't have the detail on the SS bid...One side of a story is always only one side of a story.

The fact that you're prepared to "give a good shoeing" to a 60-odd year old bloke, based on no actual facts, suggests to me that you're a bit unstable,

[BWFC_Insane]

It is rather simple.
Sports Shield either have a workable Business Plan.
Or they don't.

But there is a less black and white option that they have to demonstrate to the league that their business plan is workable and go through that process. Christ it has only been just over a week. And football league committees aren't known for their speed.

no - they're not... but it was YOU who linked the FL delay to ED's alleged (but hitherto STILL unspecified) last minute changes to the deal...

Actually it was Marc Iles. I believe him. You don't. Not sure what more there is to say here?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

What FXCKING LAST MINUTE CHANGES?

[Enoch]

Be reet.

[Worthy4England]

Aye - panic fannies.

[thebish]

It is rather simple.
Sports Shield either have a workable Business Plan.
Or they don't.

But there is a less black and white option that they have to demonstrate to the league that their business plan is workable and go through that process. Christ it has only been just over a week. And football league committees aren't known for their speed.

no - they're not... but it was YOU who linked the FL delay to ED's alleged (but hitherto STILL unspecified) last minute changes to the deal...

Actually it was Marc Iles. I believe him. You don't. Not sure what more there is to say here?

apart from the answer to the question - what last-minute changes??

also - it wasn't just Iles - when I asked you what you thought was going on with the FL delay, you wrote:

"Because at the last minute Eddie changes their business plan and therefore their future financial projections by insisting he gets more money going forward."

you linked the delay - not to the FL normally taking ages over everything - but specifically to ED's "last minute" changes - but you refuse to say what those "last minute" changes were...

[LeverEnd]

feck me this is worse than Paxman vs Howard!

[thebish]

[Rjs37]

I'm not sure why there's so much focus on what the last minute changes were...

I'd assume it was the revelation that Davies would be receiving a proportion of sponsorship / tv revenue (condition being in Championship or Premiership if I recall) and the fact that there would be a 15 million loan to Eddie Davies still outstanding. I think that last part especially only really came to light during the last court appearance.

Whether those two things are intrinsically linked or not I don't really know, but certainly that 15 million figure would change a few things on SS's business plan.
Though it shouldn't affect their Plan B if Davies isn't owed anything whilst we're in League One.

And I'm not sure that's the whole/proper reason for the delayed decision from the FL. Possibly made too many assumptions in their plan and needing to provide clear reasoning behind those assumptions.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

So we're deciding something is fact because of the Twitter equivalent of 'Like'. I mean, really?

If Isles and Nixon tweeted that an asteroid was going to hit the Mac on Saturday afternoon and Deano 'liked it' you'd be running around with a sandwich board and wet pants. Get a grip.

[BWFC_Insane]

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Both saying the same thing. Two things league are concerned by.

1) is clause giving Eddie payments.

2) is league want proof that sports shield can make up the 5M of lost revenue if/when we get relegated.