Muslims, racists, individuals and attitudes.

[malcd1]

So another attack in Pakistan targets Christians over the weekend. 70 dead and more than 300 injured. Many of then children.

Is it a coincidence that the bomber was a follower of Islam and the targets non-Muslims?

What a fecked up world we live in.

http://news.sky.com/story/1667941/pakis ... de-bombing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Worthy4England]

No, no coincidence. But little different than in the 70's in the UK, whereupon hearing about a bomb or shooting, Mr Plod would've started looking for people with Irish accents...

The list of terrorist incidents in Pakistan since the start of the year has been pretty much daily - not all terrorist instigated - dunno if the link attached is accurate, but there's a whole host of Security Force killings in there too.

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries ... idents.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[bobo the clown]

No, no coincidence. But little different than in the 70's in the UK, whereupon hearing about a bomb or shooting, Mr Plod would've started looking for people with Irish accents...

The list of terrorist incidents in Pakistan since the start of the year has been pretty much daily - not all terrorist instigated - dunno if the link attached is accurate, but there's a whole host of Security Force killings in there too.

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries ... idents.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... &, to be fair, whilst at yhat time on these islands most people with Irish accents wouldn't have been bombers, most bombers would have had Irish accents.

[TANGODANCER]

No, no coincidence. But little different than in the 70's in the UK, whereupon hearing about a bomb or shooting, Mr Plod would've started looking for people with Irish accents...

Which, in the 1970's, would probably have included all the Irish clubs and pubs in every town and just about every building site in the country...oh, and a whole bunch of my relations,(although most of those of that era have now passed on).

[Bruce Rioja]

Thought that this might interest folk (although I am having difficulty in naming all the flags

[Bruce Rioja]

&, to be fair, whilst at yhat time on these islands most people with Irish accents wouldn't have been bombers, most bombers would have had Irish accents.

Now then, I know that there are a few contributors to this site with friends/relations/links to NI, so I'd ask you not to get excited here, but I had a conversation with my boss last week, himself the son of an Ulsterman (and by the sounds of it, a Republican sympathiser). For clarity, my boss was born and raised in Yorkshire.
As he grew up and, as we all did in the 70's and 80's, saw on the news somewhere having been blown up by the IRA (to this day I've never had a decent night's sleep in The Europa) his father would basically say to my boss "I don't agree with it, but you know why they've done it, don't you?"
As such, my boss deduces that deep, deep down every Ulsterman, whether he was involved in 'The Troubles' or not actually falls into one side of the divide or the other.
This is completely at odds with what Stiff Little Fingers have been singing to me since 1977, by the way, whose original line-up comprised two Protestants and two Catholics. Thoughts?

[Hoboh]

&, to be fair, whilst at yhat time on these islands most people with Irish accents wouldn't have been bombers, most bombers would have had Irish accents.

Now then, I know that there are a few contributors to this site with friends/relations/links to NI, so I'd ask you not to get excited here, but I had a conversation with my boss last week, himself the son of an Ulsterman (and by the sounds of it, a Republican sympathiser). For clarity, my boss was born and raised in Yorkshire.
As he grew up and, as we all did in the 70's and 80's, saw on the news somewhere having been blown up by the IRA (to this day I've never had a decent night's sleep in The Europa) his father would basically say to my boss "I don't agree with it, but you know why they've done it, don't you?"
As such, my boss deduces that deep, deep down every Ulsterman, whether he was involved in 'The Troubles' or not actually falls into one side of the divide or the other.
This is completely at odds with what Stiff Little Fingers have been singing to me since 1977, by the way, whose original line-up comprised two Protestants and two Catholics. Thoughts?

Not wanting to get too involved on this particular thread, I will say I think that is a category Muslims fall into, most not liking the violence but the aim of spreading the faith holds strong.

[Bruce Rioja]

&, to be fair, whilst at yhat time on these islands most people with Irish accents wouldn't have been bombers, most bombers would have had Irish accents.

Now then, I know that there are a few contributors to this site with friends/relations/links to NI, so I'd ask you not to get excited here, but I had a conversation with my boss last week, himself the son of an Ulsterman (and by the sounds of it, a Republican sympathiser). For clarity, my boss was born and raised in Yorkshire.
As he grew up and, as we all did in the 70's and 80's, saw on the news somewhere having been blown up by the IRA (to this day I've never had a decent night's sleep in The Europa) his father would basically say to my boss "I don't agree with it, but you know why they've done it, don't you?"
As such, my boss deduces that deep, deep down every Ulsterman, whether he was involved in 'The Troubles' or not actually falls into one side of the divide or the other.
This is completely at odds with what Stiff Little Fingers have been singing to me since 1977, by the way, whose original line-up comprised two Protestants and two Catholics. Thoughts?

Not wanting to get too involved on this particular thread, I will say I think that is a category Muslims fall into, most not liking the violence but the aim of spreading the faith holds strong.

Well, here's interesting. We were discussing Brussels Airport and how we'd both had a pre-flight coffee in the very Starbuck's in which they detonated the 2nd bomb only a couple of weeks ago. My comments were that it must be terrible to be a Brussels based Muslim just now as perfectly innocent citizens have to go about their daily affairs under this unbelievable level of suspicion. My comments led to his comments regarding the Irish, which he then likened to the mindset of Muslims.

Honestly - I just can't go along with it and nor do I want to.

[bobo the clown]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

Religious expansionism ... As a kid, a good time ago but not foolishly long ... at Easter we'd give up sweets and the money we saved we were encouraged to put in a box for "St. Joseph's Penny". Once you had 2s 6d you had enough to fund the Missionary Father's to Christen a "little black pagan child in Africa". Thus saving their soul. If you believe any of that shite what could be a greater thing to do ?? You'd saved their soul ffs !

You were even allowed to chose the name. It was a stipulation that it had to be a saint's name or a name from the bible. We tended to OT names .... & I always feared that one day an adult African might drop in at my home, tell me he was Jeremiah and claim me as his saviour.

One mate of mind got "counselled" with a stick on each hand for chosing the name Judas. Another decided not to go for Pontius or Barabass upon seeing that.

I don't recall suggesting Prufrock but I might well have.

But seriously, could you imagine that these days ???

[thebish]

[TANGODANCER]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

[Bruce Rioja]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

Ah, but how many of them were Trump-voting Yanks? The sort that turn up in Killarney hotels asking the receptionist if she knows of a family called O'Brien?

[Lord Kangana]

We all frequent a board that, on an hourly f*cking basis, struggles to gain consensus from the supporters of one team - the majority of whom inhabit, or have inhabited the same bloody town!

How can people, with such a compelling weight of evidence before their very eyes, even begin to imagine such a concept as " all Muslims do this" "all Irishmen do that" etc?

We can't even agree who our worst player is, and we've had the worst season in f*cking decades!

[Bruce Rioja]

We all frequent a board that, on an hourly f*cking basis, struggles to gain consensus from the supporters of one team - the majority of whom inhabit, or have inhabited the same bloody town!

How can people, with such a compelling weight of evidence before their very eyes, even begin to imagine such a concept as " all Muslims do this" "all Irishmen do that" etc?

We can't even agree who our worst player is, and we've had the worst season in f*cking decades!

Pretty much why I chucked it out there, Chef.

[Bijou Bob]

Feck me, don't bring sanity to the forum!

[bobo the clown]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

Which answers precisely what Tango ?

[Worthy4England]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

Which answers precisely what Tango ?

There was a proper "Fck the English" pi$$-up to be had?

[TANGODANCER]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

Which answers precisely what Tango ?

It wasn't meant to answer anything, just an item of interest I read on a thread discussing Ireland.. I can delete it if you like?

[Montreal Wanderer]

You won't find many Ulster men who don't have a view. More these days maybe in that relative peace has brought a calmer way .... also there are many cross-border institutions.

An estimated quarter of a million people turned out in Dublin yesterday to commemorate the Easter rising of 1916.

Which answers precisely what Tango ?

It wasn't meant to answer anything, just an item of interest I read on a thread discussing Ireland.. I can delete it if you like?

What would deleting it prove precisely, Tango?

[Hoboh]

We all frequent a board that, on an hourly f*cking basis, struggles to gain consensus from the supporters of one team - the majority of whom inhabit, or have inhabited the same bloody town!

How can people, with such a compelling weight of evidence before their very eyes, even begin to imagine such a concept as " all Muslims do this" "all Irishmen do that" etc?

We can't even agree who our worst player is, and we've had the worst season in f*cking decades!

Now you see, nobody is saying all about anything.
Talk percentages, in the case of Muslim's if that was say 10% (I suspect it's actually a fair few more) who supported the deeply entrenched view that the Islamic faith was the only faith, all others were worshippers of false Gods, that numerically is a hell of a lot of people.
It has taken centuries to get the influence that the Christian church in the West held over it's congregation down to practically a free choice of following or not, Islam is miles away from this.