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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:27 am

I'm guessing theres s significant number more than 10% of people with views like yours hobes. Despite thousands of years of progress. Lifes just a shitter sometimes.
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Post by Beefheart » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:37 am

Hoboh wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:We all frequent a board that, on an hourly f*cking basis, struggles to gain consensus from the supporters of one team - the majority of whom inhabit, or have inhabited the same bloody town!

How can people, with such a compelling weight of evidence before their very eyes, even begin to imagine such a concept as " all Muslims do this" "all Irishmen do that" etc?

We can't even agree who our worst player is, and we've had the worst season in f*cking decades!
Now you see, nobody is saying all about anything.
Talk percentages, in the case of Muslim's if that was say 10% (I suspect it's actually a fair few more) who supported the deeply entrenched view that the Islamic faith was the only faith, all others were worshippers of false Gods, that numerically is a hell of a lot of people.
It has taken centuries to get the influence that the Christian church in the West held over it's congregation down to practically a free choice of following or not, Islam is miles away from this.
:lol: Maybe when we've decided once and for all whether Gareth Farrelly's goal in the 2001 play-off final took a deflection or just bobbled a bit on it's way in, maybe we can put our collective efforts into solving Israel/Palestine or something.

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Post by Hoboh » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:49 am

Lord Kangana wrote:I'm guessing theres s significant number more than 10% of people with views like yours hobes. Despite thousands of years of progress. Lifes just a shitter sometimes.
I love the way you just keep burying your head in the sand or are you just another one of the beating oneself up brigade, all our fault etc. etc.
Appeaser or simply frightened to admit there are, numerically, a lot of people from a certain religious following who are bringing that religion and people who follow it into total disrepute?
When people admit, in particular all the peaceful followers of Islam, that not unlike other religious sects, their writings are too fcuking ambiguous and open to easy abusive interpretation, then we may make progress.
Don't hold your breath though any Muslim who did that wouldn't be breathing long, there is a problem and keep hiding from it will not solve anything.

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:41 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:I'm guessing theres s significant number more than 10% of people with views like yours hobes. Despite thousands of years of progress. Lifes just a shitter sometimes.
I love the way you just keep burying your head in the sand or are you just another one of the beating oneself up brigade, all our fault etc. etc.
Appeaser or simply frightened to admit there are, numerically, a lot of people from a certain religious following who are bringing that religion and people who follow it into total disrepute?
When people admit, in particular all the peaceful followers of Islam, that not unlike other religious sects, their writings are too fcuking ambiguous and open to easy abusive interpretation, then we may make progress.
Don't hold your breath though any Muslim who did that wouldn't be breathing long, there is a problem and keep hiding from it will not solve anything.
See, a bit like when Malc posted - I agree the writings are ambiguous. I also agree that many "Holy Books'" writings are ambiguous, including this book. A lot of followers of Islam de-facto agree they're ambiguous (as they interpret them differently) and there's many "sects". So we're all agreed that they're ambiguous. I'm not sure how that's going to lead to progress - they aren't going to sit in a room and reach an agreement...

The 90% who have a more liberal interpretation don't need to sit in a room to discuss it - they're doing nowt wrong (in context) anyhow. So the problem remains with the 10% and I'm sure if there was a reasonable solution, we'd have found it by now. So how would you propose we resolve this?

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Post by thebish » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:02 pm

I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:30 pm

thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Not surprised - the bloody thing hadn't been hijacked yesterday. :-)

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Post by thebish » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:37 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Not surprised - the bloody thing hadn't been hijacked yesterday. :-)
errr... international time-differences... errr... :D

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:46 pm

Conspiracy!
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thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.
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Post by thebish » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:37 am

malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.

dunno - it was a joke! :conf:

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Post by thebish » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:54 am

I'd encourage anyone except Hoboh to click on this link!

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/03/29/dai ... hilarious/

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Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:06 am

thebish wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.

dunno - it was a joke! :conf:
Sorry, I thought you were trying to prove that just because Muslims are bombing innocent people of the world doesn't mean all Muslims are responsible. Of course this is true but I disagreed with your analogy.

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Post by thebish » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:10 am

malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.

dunno - it was a joke! :conf:
Sorry, I thought you were trying to prove that just because Muslims are bombing innocent people of the world doesn't mean all Muslims are responsible. Of course this is true but I disagreed with your analogy.

As you were.
maybe you missed it at the time...

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Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:49 pm

malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.

dunno - it was a joke! :conf:
Sorry, I thought you were trying to prove that just because Muslims are bombing innocent people of the world doesn't mean all Muslims are responsible. Of course this is true but I disagreed with your analogy.

As you were.
Sutely your own analogy is deeply flawed? Or have no muslims ever died due to terrorism?
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Post by malcd1 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:55 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
thebish wrote:I confronted a married man yesterday. I asked him to explain EgyptAir hijacking incident. He said "Nothing to do with me". A mealy mouthed reply.
Did the hijacker let all the married people go because they were like him and he held they in high regard. Then threaten to blow up all the single people and children because they were not married and so deserved to die?

If he did and hundreds of millions of other people agreed with him then your analogy might work a little better. If he didn't then your analogy is not quite fecked up enough to compare it to Islam.

dunno - it was a joke! :conf:
Sorry, I thought you were trying to prove that just because Muslims are bombing innocent people of the world doesn't mean all Muslims are responsible. Of course this is true but I disagreed with your analogy.

As you were.
Sutely your own analogy is deeply flawed? Or have no muslims ever died due to terrorism?
Oh they bomb Muslims as well. Usually the other ones following the wrong version of Islam.
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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:32 pm

I guess we've also bombed a lot of Muslims in the last 20 years or so...but of course that's not terrorism. :-)

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Post by malcd1 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:11 am

http://news.sky.com/story/1670528/expos ... reme-islam" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A BBC article about a mosque promoting extreme Islam. Although not preaching terrorism, their teachings do not advocate integration and probably leads to extremism.

Mufti Zubair Dudha, the centre's founder and head, is a respected cleric from the orthodox Deobandi sect which is thought to control half of all mosques and madrasas in the UK.

- Jews involved in global conspiracy

- Adopting customs forbidden

- Pictures, films, magazines and sporting celebrities poisoning the mind's and thinking of young Muslim people

- All mixed-sex institutions are evil and the practice of men and women mixing freely has only succeeded in plunging mankind into a vast conflagration of unspeakable morality

- Warns Muslims not to adopt British Customs, not to watch TV, women not to go out to work and be fully covered before leaving the house

- In a section on jihad he tells Muslims they should be prepared to "expend ... even life" to create a world organised "according to Allah's just order"
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Post by boltonboris » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:27 pm

malcd1 wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/1670528/expos ... reme-islam

A BBC article about a mosque promoting extreme Islam. Although not preaching terrorism, their teachings do not advocate integration and probably leads to extremism.

Mufti Zubair Dudha, the centre's founder and head, is a respected cleric from the orthodox Deobandi sect which is thought to control half of all mosques and madrasas in the UK.

- Jews involved in global conspiracy

- Adopting customs forbidden

- Pictures, films, magazines and sporting celebrities poisoning the mind's and thinking of young Muslim people

- All mixed-sex institutions are evil and the practice of men and women mixing freely has only succeeded in plunging mankind into a vast conflagration of unspeakable morality

- Warns Muslims not to adopt British Customs, not to watch TV, women not to go out to work and be fully covered before leaving the house

- In a section on jihad he tells Muslims they should be prepared to "expend ... even life" to create a world organised "according to Allah's just order"
I thought it was a school!!
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Post by malcd1 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:23 pm

boltonboris wrote:
malcd1 wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/1670528/expos ... reme-islam

A BBC article about a mosque promoting extreme Islam. Although not preaching terrorism, their teachings do not advocate integration and probably leads to extremism.

Mufti Zubair Dudha, the centre's founder and head, is a respected cleric from the orthodox Deobandi sect which is thought to control half of all mosques and madrasas in the UK.

- Jews involved in global conspiracy

- Adopting customs forbidden

- Pictures, films, magazines and sporting celebrities poisoning the mind's and thinking of young Muslim people

- All mixed-sex institutions are evil and the practice of men and women mixing freely has only succeeded in plunging mankind into a vast conflagration of unspeakable morality

- Warns Muslims not to adopt British Customs, not to watch TV, women not to go out to work and be fully covered before leaving the house

- In a section on jihad he tells Muslims they should be prepared to "expend ... even life" to create a world organised "according to Allah's just order"
I thought it was a school!!
It is. A religious school.
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Post by malcd1 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:10 pm

Muslims attacked and killed a secular activist for being an atheist and expressing his views on Facebook. He was one of 84 atheist bloggers who have been identified by radical Islamic and are being targeted for being "blasphemers". His murder was the latest in a series of killings of secular activists and bloggers in the country.

The Dhaka Tribune said the assailants shouted Allahu Akbar (God is greatest) as they attacked Samad on a busy road near Jagannath University, where he was a law student.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a ... bangladesh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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