Next season - might as well get it started now.

[Peter Thompson]

Going off of that conference alone I like the guy, and he clearly intends to run the club on a sound business footing rather than on the economics of the fecking madhouse.

I also like him Bruce - his interview on ITV / Granada Reports was better IMO, I'm sure that he said he's pretty certain that he'll get the embargo lifted before the window opens and also mentioned a transfer budget of over £2M which in League 1 terms is decent.

He said that 2 of the 3 shortlisted managers are still in work so if its one of them they go for they would need to sort out compensation before hopefully making an announcement next week.

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[Bruce Rioja]

Going off of that conference alone I like the guy, and he clearly intends to run the club on a sound business footing rather than on the economics of the fecking madhouse.

I also like him Bruce - his interview on ITV / Granada Reports was better IMO, /

Didn't see it. PT, but if it involved returning the club to a sound financial footing then it gets my vote. I couldn't care a feck as to whatever happens elsewhere!

[Lord Kangana]

Not arsed about words. Heard enough promises to take us to The Champions League and back.

Sort the f*cking mess out, theres a good lad.

[Peter Thompson]

Going off of that conference alone I like the guy, and he clearly intends to run the club on a sound business footing rather than on the economics of the fecking madhouse.

I also like him Bruce - his interview on ITV / Granada Reports was better IMO, /

Didn't see it. PT, but if it involved returning the club to a sound financial footing then it gets my vote. I couldn't care a feck as to whatever happens elsewhere!

Link to the ITV interview on the previous post....

[officer_dibble]

Mmm yeah he talks a good game. He can't make Mark Cnut Davies cancel his contract mind. So reasonable hopes for me - get us stable, lose players by what means you can, and appoint a manager. Interesting 2 out of the 3 are in work. Browny is feck* odds on?

[Hoboh]

Anyhow if you look at the 5-6M playing budget and assume 24 first teamers we are probably looking at an average wage of about £4K a week. Taking a bit away from the budget to allow for the U21's and dev squads to be paid etc...

Who says they will keep them?
Remember Newcastle during Kegan's reign, save money, no reserves.

[Worthy4England]

Out of interest when did Birch say the asking price was 15M? I recall him saying it was being made very attractive for buyers, rather than reveal any asking price.

Looking for it now - sure I'd linked it previously....buggered if I can find it.

[thebish]

50 down to three?

This guy who said he'd walk there to get the job. It's Ian Dowie isn't it?

nahhh... it has to be one of The Proclaimers!

[BWFC_Insane]

Anyhow if you look at the 5-6M playing budget and assume 24 first teamers we are probably looking at an average wage of about £4K a week. Taking a bit away from the budget to allow for the U21's and dev squads to be paid etc...

Indeed, but it's where we are now. £4K a week is still a fecking fortune. I'm guessing the we won't even bother opening the upper tiers for several games next season.

Don't disagree. But if we don't get rid of some of the big earners that leaves us struggling big time if we are strict with that budget and living within our means. Amos has the wage of four players at that rate.

[TonyDomingos]

Anyhow if you look at the 5-6M playing budget and assume 24 first teamers we are probably looking at an average wage of about £4K a week. Taking a bit away from the budget to allow for the U21's and dev squads to be paid etc...

Yes, Anderson says it'll be a c.24 man squad and his intended annual budget equates to around £100k pw. But, if we can't get rid of the four high earners he names (let's say they're on £15k each pw), then that leaves just £40k pw for the other 20 players. I don't know what £2k pw buys you, but I suspect it's not a top Div One performer. Getting rid of just one of the four could make all the difference next season.

Someone start the car please ......

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

You can borrow our 8 seater Tony, that way you can fit twatdick and a few extra wasters in

[General Mannerheim]

strong positive vibes from the captain this morning... dick

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[General Mannerheim]

strong positive vibes from the captain this morning... dick

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... rop_again/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Worthy4England]

strong positive vibes from the captain this morning... dick

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... rop_again/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think he did well to point out that young players can make mistakes - not that any of our senior pros have made any this of course...

Oh and did you know I've got 2 years on my Contract so I'm going to be really difficult to budge...

[BWFC_Insane]

strong positive vibes from the captain this morning... dick

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I think he did well to point out that young players can make mistakes - not that any of our senior pros have made any this of course...

Oh and did you know I've got 2 years on my Contract so I'm going to be really difficult to budge...

A lot of what he says is true, in terms of how hard it will be next year.

But he seems to not accept that he is part of the problem.

"The club has to act".

Darren mate, you are part of the club and YOU should take responsibility. Not just blame the owners or the board or the young players etc....

[Bijou Bob]

Pratley, Davies and Wheater will get offers elsewhere. The Chairman has done a decent job for my money by warning the senior pros and their agents they're not going to be a pushover. I suspect that's a hangover from the Pratley and Davies deals falling through earlier this season. At an average of 4 grand a week, we'll still have one of the best paid squads in the division and should be able to attract adequate replacements who are hungry to progress and earn better contracts based on performance and success. The downside is that with Spearing, Pratley, Mavies gone, we start the season without a central midfield player aside from Trotter (Who to be fair, could boss League 1 if he plays as he has this season in patches) or Vela, if he stays.

[LeverEnd]

Next season is going to be more about further dismantling than building anything. I'll be amazed if we are anywhere near the top.

[TonyDomingos]

Next season is going to be more about further dismantling than building anything. I'll be amazed if we are anywhere near the top.

Yup. Though I find it difficult to imagine that the top earners still in contract will move on quickly unless it's on loan. No one will match their current wages, so they have little incentive to leave.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Pratley, Davies and Wheater will get offers elsewhere. The Chairman has done a decent job for my money by warning the senior pros and their agents they're not going to be a pushover. I suspect that's a hangover from the Pratley and Davies deals falling through earlier this season. At an average of 4 grand a week, we'll still have one of the best paid squads in the division and should be able to attract adequate replacements who are hungry to progress and earn better contracts based on performance and success. The downside is that with Spearing, Pratley, Mavies gone, we start the season without a central midfield player aside from Trotter (Who to be fair, could boss League 1 if he plays as he has this season in patches) or Vela, if he stays.

We don't need to worry about Wheater as his contract is up in a couple of months. Pratley and Davies might not go anywhere if they take the view that they don't want to take a pay cut. I struggle to see who would pay them what they currently earn unless some extra zeros get put in the contract that go unnoticed.

For me, we should get rid of as many as we can and look to only keep the likes of Clough and Holding. All I hope for next season is a togetherness, plenty of endeavour and lots of fight. Oh, and a few wins here and there!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Pratley, Davies and Wheater will get offers elsewhere. The Chairman has done a decent job for my money by warning the senior pros and their agents they're not going to be a pushover. I suspect that's a hangover from the Pratley and Davies deals falling through earlier this season. At an average of 4 grand a week, we'll still have one of the best paid squads in the division and should be able to attract adequate replacements who are hungry to progress and earn better contracts based on performance and success. The downside is that with Spearing, Pratley, Mavies gone, we start the season without a central midfield player aside from Trotter (Who to be fair, could boss League 1 if he plays as he has this season in patches) or Vela, if he stays.

We don't need to worry about Wheater as his contract is up in a couple of months. Pratley and Davies might not go anywhere if they take the view that they don't want to take a pay cut. I struggle to see who would pay them what they currently earn unless some extra zeros get put in the contract that go unnoticed.

For me, we should get rid of as many as we can and look to only keep the likes of Clough and Holding. All I hope for next season is a togetherness, plenty of endeavour and lots of fight. Oh, and a few wins here and there!

Not sure I'd turf out all the babies with the bathwater - Niall Maher, for example?

Quick recap: here's the contract situation.
Out of contract this summer: Paul Rachubka, Ross Fitzsimons, Hayden White, Niall Maher, Oscar Threlkeld, Rob Holding, Alex Finney, David Wheater, Quade Taylor, Neil Danns, Jordan Lussey, Tom Walker, Liam Feeney, Rob Hall, Emile Heskey, Stephen Dobbie, Tom Eaves, Kaiyne Woolery
2017: Lawrie Wilson, Francesco Pisano, Dorian Dervite, Dean Moxey, Josh Vela, Filip Twardzik, Jay Spearing, Liam Trotter, Mark Davies, Gary Madine, Max Clayton
2018: Derik Osede, Darren Pratley, Conor Wilkinson
2019: Ben Amos, Zach Clough

From what we've been told I'd surmise that the big earners contracted after this summer will be Spearing, Davies, Amos, Pratley; I'd suspect Trotter, Moxey, Dervite and possibly Derik are on middleish wages, with Wilson and Madine on less still.