Which muppet can we appoint next?

[BWFC_Insane]

This may be unfair, and I admit it's from a limited experience of him, but Gary Bowyer has always struck me as one of the least inspiring men in football. He's got a face like he's not sure whether his fart's wet.

Fair enough, he steadied the Rovers ship for a bit, and you could argue that we need something similar, but we're not in the business of avoiding relegation. We're looking for someone to rebuild the club, inspire the players, excite the fans. Maybe he can do it, but I'm not sure he'd cause the ticket-office phones to melt.

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

I think Browny would be largely supported, with a couple of exceptions (Bruce isn't alone). Other than that, I think we're more likely to get a buzz from someone on the rise rather than a "failed" higher-division manager - although obviously that has to be balanced against getting a wet-eared greenhorn.

[Peter Thompson]

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

I think Browny would be largely supported, with a couple of exceptions (Bruce isn't alone). Other than that, I think we're more likely to get a buzz from someone on the rise rather than a "failed" higher-division manager - although obviously that has to be balanced against getting a wet-eared greenhorn.

Browny is still my choice by some distance & IMO would help to galvanised a fan base that is currently seriously pissed off with all things BWFC at the moment - KA & DH need to be very careful in their choice of the next manager, because if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer, the fans will not be happy & the stadium will be empty next season and the new manager could be given an even harder time than Megson got.

The next manager has to be someone who the fans are reasonably happy with.

[BWFC_Insane]

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

I think Browny would be largely supported, with a couple of exceptions (Bruce isn't alone). Other than that, I think we're more likely to get a buzz from someone on the rise rather than a "failed" higher-division manager - although obviously that has to be balanced against getting a wet-eared greenhorn.

Browny is still my choice by some distance & IMO would help to galvanised a fan base that is currently seriously pissed off with all things BWFC at the moment - KA & DH need to be very careful in their choice of the next manager, because if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer, the fans will not be happy & the stadium will be empty next season and the new manager could be given an even harder time than Megson got.

The next manager has to be someone who the fans are reasonably happy with.

To an extent. But they seemingly cannot afford Brown. So that means we have to look elsewhere. And we're not an attractive proposition right now.

Reality check needed, we're not getting a glamour manager and might struggle to attract anyone the fans would broadly welcome.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

The next manager has to be someone who the fans are reasonably happy with.

We say that every time, but hasn't really worked out with Coyle and Lennon. Whilst I'd hope they wouldn't go out and get someone universally disliked like Megson, I think whoever comes in simply needs to improve things on the pitch. That in itself will get most fans onside, even if not delighted.

Bottom line is we need to improve sufficiently and quickly. Popularity isn't going to keep us from division 4 and I'd prefer to be in a bad mood and fighting for promotion than happy and fighting relegation.

[Peter Thompson]

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

I think Browny would be largely supported, with a couple of exceptions (Bruce isn't alone). Other than that, I think we're more likely to get a buzz from someone on the rise rather than a "failed" higher-division manager - although obviously that has to be balanced against getting a wet-eared greenhorn.

Browny is still my choice by some distance & IMO would help to galvanised a fan base that is currently seriously pissed off with all things BWFC at the moment - KA & DH need to be very careful in their choice of the next manager, because if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer, the fans will not be happy & the stadium will be empty next season and the new manager could be given an even harder time than Megson got.

The next manager has to be someone who the fans are reasonably happy with.

To an extent. But they seemingly cannot afford Brown. So that means we have to look elsewhere. And we're not an attractive proposition right now.

Reality check needed, we're not getting a glamour manager and might struggle to attract anyone the fans would broadly welcome.

This is sheer speculation - who says we can't afford Brown ?, he could even just quit if he wanted to like Allardyce did at Notts County all those years ago, I don't think that Brown would cost anywhere near what is being touted.

And a reality check isn't needed, the new owners need to understand how pissed off the supporters currently are with the club and appointing an unpopular manager would be an absolutely suicidal move IMO by KA & DH, surely they don't want to become instantly unpopular....we need to start next season with at least some hope, they really do need the fans on board - if not the fans will vote with their feet as they have done in the last 2 home games and we'll have absolutely no chance of getting back up with 6,000 crowds on.

The next manager simply has to be someone who the fans would welcome otherwise KA & DH may as well go back down to London.

[BWFC_Insane]

Aye. I'd argue that nobody we're going to get will be particularly popular, certainly not universally. And nobody will cause excitement!

I think Browny would be largely supported, with a couple of exceptions (Bruce isn't alone). Other than that, I think we're more likely to get a buzz from someone on the rise rather than a "failed" higher-division manager - although obviously that has to be balanced against getting a wet-eared greenhorn.

Browny is still my choice by some distance & IMO would help to galvanised a fan base that is currently seriously pissed off with all things BWFC at the moment - KA & DH need to be very careful in their choice of the next manager, because if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer, the fans will not be happy & the stadium will be empty next season and the new manager could be given an even harder time than Megson got.

The next manager has to be someone who the fans are reasonably happy with.

To an extent. But they seemingly cannot afford Brown. So that means we have to look elsewhere. And we're not an attractive proposition right now.

Reality check needed, we're not getting a glamour manager and might struggle to attract anyone the fans would broadly welcome.

This is sheer speculation - who says we can't afford Brown ?, he could even just quit if he wanted to like Allardyce did at Notts County all those years ago, I don't think that Brown would cost anywhere near what is being touted.

And a reality check isn't needed, the new owners need to understand how pissed off the supporters currently are with the club and appointing an unpopular manager would be an absolutely suicidal move IMO by KA & DH, surely they don't want to become instantly unpopular....we need to start next season with at least some hope, they really do need the fans on board - if not the fans will vote with their feet as they have done in the last 2 home games and we'll have absolutely no chance of getting back up with 6,000 crowds on.

The next manager simply has to be someone who the fans would welcome otherwise KA & DH may as well go back down to London.

It has been reported by both the Bolton News and Nixon that we can't afford the £500K compensation for Brown. He may be able to walk out, but that compensation figure doesn't necessarily just disappear. Depends what his notice period is, then Southend may not accept any resignation and take the matter to court. Their Chairman is widely known for being tough and no pushover.

The fact MAY be that there simply isn't the money in the budget to risk on this. And I'm far from convinced we can wait months for Brown to sort out a wrangle with Southend, (we waited a fair time for Allardyce) and then there is a question of whether Brown even has the appetite to do that and lose out on his shares in Southend. Especially if he ends up losing in court.

In fantasy land I'm sure that Anderson and Holdsworth want a manager that pleases the fans, but even Brown with all the caveats above, is far from universally popular. Whoever comes in has a very difficult job and the only way of winning round the fans is achieving results.

The reality is that if reports are to be believed the manager of Northampton has had a look at us and decided he doesn't fancy it. We aren't the big catch we once were especially as all signs point to more financial cuts and prudency as a matter of absolute necessity.

[Peter Thompson]

It has been reported by both the Bolton News and Nixon that we can't afford the £500K compensation for Brown. He may be able to walk out, but that compensation figure doesn't necessarily just disappear. Depends what his notice period is, then Southend may not accept any resignation and take the matter to court. Their Chairman is widely known for being tough and no pushover.

The fact MAY be that there simply isn't the money in the budget to risk on this. And I'm far from convinced we can wait months for Brown to sort out a wrangle with Southend, (we waited a fair time for Allardyce) and then there is a question of whether Brown even has the appetite to do that and lose out on his shares in Southend. Especially if he ends up losing in court.

In fantasy land I'm sure that Anderson and Holdsworth want a manager that pleases the fans, but even Brown with all the caveats above, is far from universally popular. Whoever comes in has a very difficult job and the only way of winning round the fans is achieving results.

The reality is that if reports are to be believed the manager of Northampton has had a look at us and decided he doesn't fancy it. We aren't the big catch we once were especially as all signs point to more financial cuts and prudency as a matter of absolute necessity.

You take far to much notice of the likes of Iles & Nixon, this is utter bollocks IMO no one even knows if he's even been approached - we are still a big enough catch to get a more acceptable & more popular manager then the likes of Carver, Bowyer or Rosler - none of those IMO would be good enough to achieve the required turnaround the club desperately need

[BWFC_Insane]

It has been reported by both the Bolton News and Nixon that we can't afford the £500K compensation for Brown. He may be able to walk out, but that compensation figure doesn't necessarily just disappear. Depends what his notice period is, then Southend may not accept any resignation and take the matter to court. Their Chairman is widely known for being tough and no pushover.

The fact MAY be that there simply isn't the money in the budget to risk on this. And I'm far from convinced we can wait months for Brown to sort out a wrangle with Southend, (we waited a fair time for Allardyce) and then there is a question of whether Brown even has the appetite to do that and lose out on his shares in Southend. Especially if he ends up losing in court.

In fantasy land I'm sure that Anderson and Holdsworth want a manager that pleases the fans, but even Brown with all the caveats above, is far from universally popular. Whoever comes in has a very difficult job and the only way of winning round the fans is achieving results.

The reality is that if reports are to be believed the manager of Northampton has had a look at us and decided he doesn't fancy it. We aren't the big catch we once were especially as all signs point to more financial cuts and prudency as a matter of absolute necessity.

You take far to much notice of the likes of Iles & Nixon, this is utter bollocks IMO no one even knows if he's even been approached - we are still a big enough catch to get a more acceptable & more popular manager then the likes of Carver, Bowyer or Rosler - none of those IMO would be good enough to achieve the required turnaround the club desperately need

No. I listen to everything out there and take as balanced a view as I can. I see absolutely no evidence that we have cash to throw around. Zero. We are still under embargo. And have not as far as anyone knows filed already overdue accounts.

This is not surprising. We were in a total mess and were saved by owners who have reportedly borrowed money against assets to meet running costs for this season and next.

This isn't a computer game. Any manager coming in will look at the situaion of highly paid players who we want to shift. A mix of youngsters who are now regulars and ones who would like to be who aren't seemingly quite good enough yet on the whole. And reports (whether true or not widescale reports) that our two owners have already a major disagreement on managerial choice.

Whatever way you try and spin it the job isn't that attractive. We will be in league one in a tough spot. I'm not saying that managers won't be interested, they will, but I strongly suspect not of the reputation that you seem to think will be. If Brown didn't have a Bolton connection for example would he walk on and potentially lose a fortune to come here? No chance.

[thebish]

I just instinctively don't like Brown... thing is - I don't know why, which is irrational and annoying!

the best I can offer as a reason for my reticence is that it would feel like going back to the past... (ditto Nolan - though I'd accept brown in a shot and with open arms if Nolly was the only other choice!)
also - his face annoys me. again - I don't know why!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer

Carver may be many things, but he doesn't strike me as dour or boring.

we'll have absolutely no chance of getting back up with 6,000 crowds on

Bournemouth went up from the Third with an average gate of 6,582 - but I take your point. It will be easier if the crowds are there - but I reckon that (after a possible early-season honeymoon period) attendances will be determined by the entertainment-per-pound factor rather than whether the boss is A Top Bloke.

The reality is that if reports are to be believed the manager of Northampton has had a look at us and decided he doesn't fancy it.

Hoist by your own caveat there - "if reports are to be believed". Reports aren't necessarily reality, and even if they're true we have no idea why he 'rejected' us. Feels to me like the Wilder thing may not be over yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes to Rotherham or Sheffield United.

[BWFC_Insane]

if they make the wrong appointment and bring in an uninspiring, boring dour cnut like a Rosler, Carver or Bowyer

Carver may be many things, but he doesn't strike me as dour or boring.

we'll have absolutely no chance of getting back up with 6,000 crowds on

Bournemouth went up from the Third with an average gate of 6,582 - but I take your point. It will be easier if the crowds are there - but I reckon that (after a possible early-season honeymoon period) attendances will be determined by the entertainment-per-pound factor rather than whether the boss is A Top Bloke.

The reality is that if reports are to be believed the manager of Northampton has had a look at us and decided he doesn't fancy it.

Hoist by your own caveat there - "if reports are to be believed". Reports aren't necessarily reality, and even if they're true we have no idea why he 'rejected' us. Feels to me like the Wilder thing may not be over yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if he goes to Rotherham or Sheffield United.

Right my point is that it is far from an impossibility that a manager would choose to stay at Northampton over coming here. Whether that is the case or not, we are no longer a "oh yes please" job for a manager from the lower leagues.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

my point is that it is far from an impossibility that a manager would choose to stay at Northampton over coming here. Whether that is the case or not, we are no longer a "oh yes please" job for a manager from the lower leagues.

And that's true, to an extent. But Northampton are on course for 100pts and will be in our division next season. I bet there's still a few lower-league managers (and unemployed ones) who'd jump at the job.

[Bruce Rioja]

A slight aside that may have already been mentioned but I see that Lever End's balloon-knot buddy has issued the old 'come and get me...... again' to Celtic being as that Norwegian chap's leaving at the end of the season.

[thebish]

A slight aside that may have already been mentioned but I see that Lever End's balloon-knot buddy has issued the old 'come and get me...... again' to Celtic being as that Norwegian chap's leaving at the end of the season.

aye - now he's been to England and proved himself!

[KeyserSoze]

Not for me, Clive.

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[Bruce Rioja]

One fert Rumour Mill. SJM currently having a round (of Golf, steady now)with David Moyes on Bolton GC. Come on, Mosey - you know it makes sense

[thebish]

One fert Rumour Mill. SJM currently having a round with David Moyes on Bolton GC. Come on, Mosey - you know it makes sense

he's been flashing his knickers at Villa over the last couple of days...

[Worthy4England]

One fert Rumour Mill. SJM currently having a round with David Moyes on Bolton GC. Come on, Mosey - you know it makes sense

he's been flashing his knickers at Villa over the last couple of days...

According to news reports, he wouldn't mind a relegated side...we've done that quicker and better than anyone.

[thebish]

One fert Rumour Mill. SJM currently having a round with David Moyes on Bolton GC. Come on, Mosey - you know it makes sense

he's been flashing his knickers at Villa over the last couple of days...

According to news reports, he wouldn't mind a relegated side...we've done that quicker and better than anyone.