The End - Fulham (A) 07/05/16

[BWFC_Insane]

Arsenal in for Holding according to Iles of the BN.

Well that's just great. New owners without a clue or a pot to piss in.

We're in for a bumpy few years.

What on earth are you going on about....I would say that this means that they do have a clue, if we can get a decent fee £3M / £4M + for Holding it could be the difference in the club getting out of League 1 next season, this money could buy us a couple of decent strikers to do a job in League 1....which is what we desperately need.

If they sell him for £1M I agree with you, but we need money to reinvest in other areas of the team and I suspect that the new owners are much better in the transfer market than the two previous clowns.

I'm actually excited by this Holding move, and like I said providing the money is decent may give us a much better chance next season.

If we get a decent amount and get out the embargo quickly and use the money on the squad then I agree it is a decent move.

There are plenty of ifs there though.

Ultimately can't blame the new owners. If Arsenal are in for a league one player it is hard to say no. If they can turn it into a positive as above then great. But they have to do that.

[BWFC_Insane]

Whilst not totally delighted that we're thinking of parting with one of our few prospects, I accept it has to be a reality. I just hope we don't dive at the first offer that comes along. It almost seems like Gary Cahill all over again, but worth keeping in mind we just got relegated because we didn't have the wherewithall to stay up due mainly to the quality of our over-paid, underperforming wage-drawers and a succesion of somewhat less than Maurinho class managers . Today sounded like another example of us being penned in and having no support up front. We never seeme to learn. Kev Davis won everything fired at him, but what's the point if there's nobody to take advantage? Heskey and Wollery sounded much in the same boat. Zac Clough, Danns and Davies always seem to start attacking from our penalty box. I get so sick of hearing we defended well when we lose every game. Let's try attacking well for a bit and have a manager who inspires some hunger in the players.....please..

Can't speak for today TD but I can assure you anyone who says we have defended well this season is having you on....

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Among the findings in the Eight Bells: Tony can't hold his crisps; sitting is the new smoking; football is expensive; we're off to Bristol, Northampton and Oxford; "sea salt" need not be adjectival; choosing which role for Peter Reid is like choosing whether to eat your own shit or drink someone else's piss; it's an empty victory to have the best training ground in the Conference; society may have jumped the shark with the invention of scented ironing water; "we're f*cked"; there's a good player hiding inside a mardy tw*t.

[Worthy4England]

It's the most goals we've let in for a season for nearly 60 years. It's marginally less goals conceded per game than premiership relegation season (conceded 77 in 38) V this season (Conceded 81 in 46). I seem to recall some folks thought that was down to not scoring enough goals too - which it was - all we needed to do was score 3 a game to bag three points.

To give it some balance, it was also one of our lowest returns on goals scored too - three seasons in the Prem we were around a similar total - but still our joint lowest goal haul in 20 years - and not even in the top division.

Shite all round.

[TonyDomingos]

Bobo, we're sat outside with our beer now.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Bobo, we're sat outside with our beer now.

Sat?!

[thebish]

Arsenal in for Holding according to Iles of the BN.

Well that's just great. New owners without a clue or a pot to piss in.

We're in for a bumpy few years.

What on earth are you going on about....I would say that this means that they do have a clue, if we can get a decent fee £3M / £4M + for Holding it could be the difference in the club getting out of League 1 next season, this money could buy us a couple of decent strikers to do a job in League 1....which is what we desperately need.

If they sell him for £1M I agree with you, but we need money to reinvest in other areas of the team and I suspect that the new owners are much better in the transfer market than the two previous clowns.

I'm actually excited by this Holding move, and like I said providing the money is decent may give us a much better chance next season.

If we get a decent amount and get out the embargo quickly and use the money on the squad then I agree it is a decent move.

There are plenty of ifs there though.

Ultimately can't blame the new owners. If Arsenal are in for a league one player it is hard to say no. If they can turn it into a positive as above then great. But they have to do that.

it's a big jump to go to arsenal... good luck to the lad, but he's only just found his feet at Bolton - it's a very unforgiving spotlight when a defender makes a mistake at arsenal - especially one signed from the lower leagues when the fans REALLY want Wenger to sign mega-expensive foreign bauble players...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Might be one of those where they buy him then loan him back. But they might want him to get some higher experience...

[thebish]

Might be one of those where they buy him then loan him back. But they might want him to get some higher experience...

I wouldn't sniff at that - but I'd be pissed if they bought him and then loaned him in the championship (which would make more sense from their point of view)

still - £10million would certainly soften the blow!

[Worthy4England]

Wenger? £10m? Div 1 defender? Not happening. He refused £8m for Cahill iirc and bought Mertesaker instead. Think the most he's coughed for a defender is £8.5.

[bobo the clown]

Arsenal in for Holding according to Iles of the BN.

Well that's just great. New owners without a clue or a pot to piss in.

We're in for a bumpy few years.

How is that in any way down to the new owners and exactly how would it show they're clueless ?

He has a 12m. contract & can walk for a settlement fee in 12m.and it seems 3 Premier clubs, awash with cash, are lining him up. That's a 2 division leap AND wages he can only dream of. If we get offered anything like the stories suggest say "hello" to our new reality.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Iles says it won't be £10m.

[thebish]

what do folk reckon would be the price at which they would think it was a good deal for us?

none of us expect 10mill and someone said 1mill is not enough... where's our biting point?

[truewhite15]

what do folk reckon would be the price at which they would think it was a good deal for us?

none of us expect 10mill and someone said 1mill is not enough... where's our biting point?

Young League 1 defender, highly rated but with only around 6 months of 1st team football to his name, sought by Premier League clubs who have recently had a ridiculous cash injection from a club that nearly went out of business around the turn of the year.

I'd say a £1.5M to £2M...

[Worthy4England]

what do folk reckon would be the price at which they would think it was a good deal for us?

none of us expect 10mill and someone said 1mill is not enough... where's our biting point?

I reckon they'd snatch some buggers hand off at £1m. I don't think we're out of the financial shit...

[BWFC_Insane]

what do folk reckon would be the price at which they would think it was a good deal for us?

none of us expect 10mill and someone said 1mill is not enough... where's our biting point?

2-3M at this stage would be great.

Suspect we will get between 1 and 2 for him....

[TANGODANCER]

Whilst not totally delighted that we're thinking of parting with one of our few prospects, I accept it has to be a reality. I just hope we don't dive at the first offer that comes along. It almost seems like Gary Cahill all over again, but worth keeping in mind we just got relegated because we didn't have the wherewithall to stay up due mainly to the quality of our over-paid, underperforming wage-drawers and a succesion of somewhat less than Maurinho class managers . Today sounded like another example of us being penned in and having no support up front. We never seeme to learn. Kev Davis won everything fired at him, but what's the point if there's nobody to take advantage? Heskey and Wollery sounded much in the same boat. Zac Clough, Danns and Davies always seem to start attacking from our penalty box. I get so sick of hearing we defended well when we lose every game. Let's try attacking well for a bit and have a manager who inspires some hunger in the players.....please..

Can't speak for today TD but I can assure you anyone who says we have defended well this season is having you on....

Well, not my words obviously, but the commentators for Tower claim it reguarly, but the point is we shouldn't be defending for the amount of time we do. We have a siege mentality and have had for years, fortress Burnden, fortress Reebok and all that stuff. If we go in front (rarely, I know) we retire en-masse into our own half. We need to become an attack-minded team and let the opposition do the defending for a change.

[Harry Genshaw]

what do folk reckon would be the price at which they would think it was a good deal for us?

none of us expect 10mill and someone said 1mill is not enough... where's our biting point?

2-3M at this stage would be great.

Suspect we will get between 1 and 2 for him....

Would agree with that. Probably get about £1m for him upfront with add ons.

[Bijou Bob]

The club have a 3 million pound gap in the financial plans. My guess is 1.5 million plus ad ons plus a loan player for nowt.

[squares641]

If we can get 2-3m for Holding and also have him loaned back to us for next season that would be a good deal in my mind.