Brexit or Britin

[BWFC_Insane]

Don't worry hobes - sanity will return to the debate... Boris is getting on his measured-response bus...

Former mayer of London, Boris John Johnson vowed to produce some "pretty nasty surprises" before embarking on a red bus tour across the UK to make the case for a Brexit.

The mind boggles.....what is he going to do, post a human shit through the doors of anyone voting to stay in?

[Gary the Enfield]

Don't worry hobes - sanity will return to the debate... Boris is getting on his measured-response bus...

Former mayer of London, Boris John Johnson vowed to produce some "pretty nasty surprises" before embarking on a red bus tour across the UK to make the case for a Brexit.

The mind boggles.....what is he going to do, post a human shit through the doors of anyone voting to stay in?

Well he's been spouting shit for the best part of 8 years down here. He's probably saved it up. What with the budget they've been given for the Brexit 'Poster' campaign he'll probably have enough Stamped Addressed Envelopes to do it too.

[Bruce Rioja]

Hmmm, this is all starting to get a little bit catty and messy now. Reasoned debate please, Messrs Cameron and Johnson.

[thebish]

Hmmm, this is all starting to get a little bit catty and messy now. Reasoned debate please, Messrs Cameron and Johnson.

barking up the wrong tree there Bruce - you won't get that from either of them! It's daft to suggest - however vaguely - that leaving the EU will lead to war in Europe - Cameron is over-reaching himself stupidly. It's equally daft to say that staying in will lead to increased tensions and - however vaguely - war in Europe - that's Boris trademark numpty-daft...

a plague on both their houses!

[Bruce Rioja]

Hmmm, this is all starting to get a little bit catty and messy now. Reasoned debate please, Messrs Cameron and Johnson.

barking up the wrong tree there Bruce - you won't get that from either of them! It's daft to suggest - however vaguely - that leaving the EU will lead to war in Europe - Cameron is over-reaching himself stupidly. It's equally daft to say that staying in will lead to increased tensions and - however vaguely - war in Europe - that's Boris trademark numpty-daft...

a plague on both their houses!

Exactly my point, Bish. Here we have two Eton and Oxford educated individuals talking absolute shite in order to support their own entrenched viewpoints. Where are the reasoned facts and, as we've discussed, who's going to deliver them?

[Worthy4England]

Hmmm, this is all starting to get a little bit catty and messy now. Reasoned debate please, Messrs Cameron and Johnson.

barking up the wrong tree there Bruce - you won't get that from either of them! It's daft to suggest - however vaguely - that leaving the EU will lead to war in Europe - Cameron is over-reaching himself stupidly. It's equally daft to say that staying in will lead to increased tensions and - however vaguely - war in Europe - that's Boris trademark numpty-daft...

a plague on both their houses!

Exactly my point, Bish. Here we have two Eton and Oxford educated individuals talking absolute shite in order to support their own entrenched viewpoints. Where are the reasoned facts and, as we've discussed, who's going to deliver them?

I'm thinking I wouldn't be holding my breath on that one Brucie. I'm suspecting sound-bite central from both sides for the next 6 weeks or whatever it is.

[Lord Kangana]

Here we have two Eton and Oxford educated individuals talking absolute shite in order to support their own entrenched viewpoints.

Isn't that just what they do anyway?

[Bruce Rioja]

Here we have two Eton and Oxford educated individuals talking absolute shite in order to support their own entrenched viewpoints.

Isn't that just what they do anyway?

Aye. A fair point.

[Hoboh]

The justice minister, Dominic Raab, said the prime minister’s speech showed the remain camp had shifted from Britain being unable to survive to suggesting the EU would fall apart without the UK. “It’s pretty desperate stuff,” he said. “If a house is on fire, most people would get out and try to douse the flames from there, not stay in and risk being burned.”

Meanwhile, former foreign secretary Jack Straw, former Swedish prime minister Carl Bildt and Labour MP Chuka Umunna all described Johnson as an apologist for the Russian leader, Vladimir Putin.

“Boris Johnson has plumbed new depths today by joining the likes of [Ukip leader, Nigel] Farage, [France’s National Front president, Marine] Le Pen and [the Netherlands’ Party for Freedom chair, Geert] Wilders in blaming the EU, rather than Vladimir Putin, for what has happened in Ukraine,” said Straw.

The 'failed man of straw' the one responsible for the migration problems from the former Eastern block, the man responsible for Iraq, the man who pushed for us to go back and bomb it again calling anyone?

Fcuk off failure, crawl back under your rock, even an idiot realises the EU, in particular the Germans, pushed by the US, were on the verge of circling Russia's border and effectively cutting off the black sea base, what the hell do you think Putin would do? Well being fair most of the loons in charge didn't think Putin would do anything.
What else does the beloved EU think about anything?
Ask the Turks!

[Hoboh]

[Gary the Enfield]

What a pair of TITS!!!!

Rita Ora looks quite nice though.

[Bruce Rioja]

Rita Ora looks quite nice though.

Who? I've just been blasted for having no idea as to who Shakira is and then saying that I bet that she isn't as fit as Samantha Mumba!

[Gary the Enfield]

Rita Ora looks quite nice though.

Who? I've just been blasted for having no idea as to who Shakira is and then saying that I bet that she isn't as fit as Samantha Mumba!

You're such a square Daddy-O. Get hip to the Jive.

[Hoboh]

Oh, lets stay in the EU, nothing in the pie line if we do that will affect us, righttttt.

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While such plans are, on the whole, welcomed by the UK, keen to see a restoration of stability across the Channel, they are also a source of some anxiety. One of the lower profile themes on the UK’s renegotiation agenda is to make sure that new deals agreed by the Eurozone do not place the country at a disadvantage. It may lack the visibility of the debates around immigration and benefits, but could potentially be more disruptive and maybe even threatening to UK interests. In particular, the prospect of financial regulations inimical to the City of London has been a persistent concern.

We'd be in the Euro within the next decade if we stay and pouring money into the basket case countries to back it up, worse still we would be unable to say, No.

From another article

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This week’s European council summit offers an extraordinary concentration of hot potatoes: an emergency deal for Greece, David Cameron’s demands for a renegotiated membership, the migration crisis. It might therefore sound far-fetched to also have on the agenda the report on ‘Completing Europe’s economic and monetary union’ by the presidents of five EU institutions: Jean-Claude Juncker (commission); Donald Tusk (council); Jeroen Dijsselbloem (Eurogroup); Mario Draghi (European Central Bank); and Martin Schulz (parliament). The report suggests advancing towards a more complete EMU in two stages: first, “deepening by doing” and enforcing non-legally binding standards, second, “completing EMU” by shifting towards binding standards and a “shock-absorption capacity”. 2025 is the new time horizon for the end of the transformation process, including a euro area treasury.

Simply those who believe life will carry on as normal if we stay and closer union and integration is not on the agenda are being conned, big time.

Expect Lisbon 2, a new treaty that really doesn't affect things, honestly. (unless you can read the invisible print)

And what was Lisbon? The rewriting of the EU constitution in a different guise signed by the traitorous, 'great leader' who left this country in the muck then sodded off to make his millions.

[Worthy4England]

Just for clarity's sake. We can leave anytime we want. They can't "impose" a euro area treasury on us. They could say we have voted and we're having one. We could say that's unacceptable to us, we're off.

[Hoboh]

Just for clarity's sake. We can leave anytime we want. They can't "impose" a euro area treasury on us. They could say we have voted and we're having one. We could say that's unacceptable to us, we're off.

Not when we have a bunch of Europhile, after politics, EU pocket lining bastards in government we don't!

And besides anything else, if the country was fairly evenly split, no party would unilaterally pull out and they know this, anyway I would see further measures after a UK referendum to block countries exiting in future, this ones frightened them.

[thebish]

Just for clarity's sake. We can leave anytime we want. They can't "impose" a euro area treasury on us. They could say we have voted and we're having one. We could say that's unacceptable to us, we're off.

Not when we have a bunch of Europhile, after politics, EU pocket lining bastards in government we don't!

And besides anything else, if the country was fairly evenly split, no party would unilaterally pull out and they know this, anyway I would see further measures after a UK referendum to block countries exiting in future, this ones frightened them.

whence this accusation that people in the UK govt line their pockets courtesy of the EU?

I could understand if you were talking about Farridge - but you can't mean him as he's not in govt.. unless you expecty him to be in govt soon?

[Prufrock]

PROJECT FEAAAAAR

[Hoboh]

Just for clarity's sake. We can leave anytime we want. They can't "impose" a euro area treasury on us. They could say we have voted and we're having one. We could say that's unacceptable to us, we're off.

Not when we have a bunch of Europhile, after politics, EU pocket lining bastards in government we don't!

And besides anything else, if the country was fairly evenly split, no party would unilaterally pull out and they know this, anyway I would see further measures after a UK referendum to block countries exiting in future, this ones frightened them.

whence this accusation that people in the UK govt line their pockets courtesy of the EU?

I could understand if you were talking about Farridge - but you can't mean him as he's not in govt.. unless you expecty him to be in govt soon?

Kinnock (s) Blair ......

[thebish]

Just for clarity's sake. We can leave anytime we want. They can't "impose" a euro area treasury on us. They could say we have voted and we're having one. We could say that's unacceptable to us, we're off.

Not when we have a bunch of Europhile, after politics, EU pocket lining bastards in government we don't!

And besides anything else, if the country was fairly evenly split, no party would unilaterally pull out and they know this, anyway I would see further measures after a UK referendum to block countries exiting in future, this ones frightened them.

whence this accusation that people in the UK govt line their pockets courtesy of the EU?

I could understand if you were talking about Farridge - but you can't mean him as he's not in govt.. unless you expecty him to be in govt soon?

Kinnock (s) Blair ......

how did they line their pockets from the EU whilst in govt. (ignoring the fact that Kinnock never really was in govt!)