The Politics Thread

[Worthy4England]

^^ That's ruined it forever more, now...

[bobo the clown]

^^ That's ruined it forever more, now...

You're welcome !

[thebish]

[BWFC_Insane]

What sort of nonsense is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... gory%20p$6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah lets create Northern powerhouse jobs, then move them to London, all at a cost to the taxpayer.

The governmnet of liars.

[Bruce Rioja]

What sort of nonsense is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... gory%20p$6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah lets create Northern powerhouse jobs, then move them to London, all at a cost to the taxpayer.

The governmnet of liars.

4uck me. First Nixon, then Iles and now The Mirror. All kosher stuff - totally boney fido.

[thebish]

What sort of nonsense is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... gory%20p$6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah lets create Northern powerhouse jobs, then move them to London, all at a cost to the taxpayer.

The governmnet of liars.

4uck me. First Nixon, then Iles and now The Mirror. All kosher stuff - totally boney fido.

it is, in fact, totally true - but quite an old story. it was discussed briefly on here. Are you suggesting, Bruce, that the govt has NOT moved Northern Powerhouse jobs to London?

[Bruce Rioja]

What sort of nonsense is this?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/to ... gory%20p$6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yeah lets create Northern powerhouse jobs, then move them to London, all at a cost to the taxpayer.

The governmnet of liars.

4uck me. First Nixon, then Iles and now The Mirror. All kosher stuff - totally boney fido.

it is, in fact, totally true - but quite an old story. it was discussed briefly on here. Are you suggesting, Bruce, that the govt has NOT moved Northern Powerhouse jobs to London?

I'm not suggesting anything other than that BWFC-I should review his news sources. I thought that that much was obvious. Do feel free to continue to read whatever you like into my posts though - you're becoming quite prolific.

[thebish]

I'm not suggesting anything other than that BWFC-I should review his news sources. I thought that that much was obvious. Do feel free to continue to read whatever you like into my posts though - you're becoming quite prolific.

we are both immortal!

[BWFC_Insane]

I see it has been discovered that West Ham Utd Football club, made a donation of £12,500 to the Conservative party....

Nothing to see here. Nope. Nothing at all......

[thebish]

I see it has been discovered that West Ham Utd Football club, made a donation of £12,500 to the Conservative party....

Nothing to see here. Nope. Nothing at all......

is a football club (rather than its owner as an individual) ALLOWED to make political donations?

[CrazyHorse]

Who gives a fck?

[Bruce Rioja]

I see it has been discovered that West Ham Utd Football club, made a donation of £12,500 to the Conservative party....

Nothing to see here. Nope. Nothing at all......

Hmmmmm. Who got the final say on the stadium episode?

[BWFC_Insane]

I see it has been discovered that West Ham Utd Football club, made a donation of £12,500 to the Conservative party....

Nothing to see here. Nope. Nothing at all......

is a football club (rather than its owner as an individual) ALLOWED to make political donations?

You think the FA/premiership might not allow it? Otherwise I don't see why not...I mean they clearly shouldn't but yeah....

[Prufrock]

Happen Karen accidentally sent it from the wrong account...

[Worthy4England]

BHS inquiry. The phrase "thick as thieves" has never been more apt.

[thebish]

Boris's mayoral promises...

Promise: When Boris Johnson became mayor he promised to totally eradicate rough sleeping on the streets of London by 2012, saying that "It's scandalous that in 21st century London people have to resort to sleeping on the streets".

Result: Rough sleeping has doubled in the past five years alone.


Promise: In 2008, Boris campaigned heavily against Ken Livingstone's plans to close a number of ticket offices on the London Underground, even going so far as to sign a Nick Clegg-style pledge never to close them. His 2008 manifesto promised there would "always [be] a manned ticket office at every station."

Result: Boris has since closed all of London's ticket offices.


Promise: In 2008 Boris promised to negotiate a "no strike deal" with the Tube unions to ensure that no strike action ever took place again on the London Underground.

Result: Boris did not even attempt to broker such a deal and has consistently refused to meet with Tube union leaders while he has been mayor. Tube strikes continue to take place every year in London.


Promise: Boris was first elected mayor in 2008 on a manifesto bemoaning the fact that Londoners “pay the highest fares in Europe,” before immediately introducing a series of inflation-busting fares increases. Despite this record, in 2012, Boris promised to "bear down on fares" adding that: "under my approach fares will be lower in the long term". In a debate on the BBC, he even went so far as to say that fares would "go down in an honest and sustainable way” if he was re-elected.

Result: In the first year after being re-elected, Boris increased fares by on average 4.2% and then raised them in line with inflation in subsequent years. Overall the cost of a single bus fare has increased by two thirds since Johnson was first elected.


Promise: Boris was first elected on a promise to tackle London’s crippling congestion, by "re-phasing traffic lights, allowing motorcycles in bus lanes and cracking down on utility companies who dig up the roads"

Result: Congestion has increased significantly since Boris became mayor. Average vehicle delays in central London have increased by 20% at peak time in the mornings and 38% at peak time in the evenings since 2008, while average speeds have decreased by around 9%. After a decade in which London bucked the national trend of rising traffic levels, overall traffic levels have also started to rise again in the city.


Promise: Boris was elected on a promise not to raise the congestion charge. He told a hustings in 2008 that "I would certainly not allow the congestion charge to go up above £8".

Result: Boris raised the congestion charge in both his first and second term. It now stands at £11.50


Promise: Boris repeatedly denied he had any plans to cut fire engines or fire stations, telling the London Assembly in 2010 that there were "no plans" to remove engines. Pressed on the issue, he told AMs that "I don't want to get rid of them. What's the problem?"

Result: Boris has since closed ten fire stations across London and removed 27 fire engines from service. Fourteen of these were removed permanently and the remaining 13 are currently being considered for permanent removal. Fire response times have risen in many areas across London.


Promise: In 2012, Boris sent a list of nine promises to every household in London, labeled his "nine point plan for a Greater London. Number four on the list was "Making our streets and homes safer with 1,000 more police on the beat".

Result: The number of police officers on London's streets has not risen. Pushed on his failure to increase police numbers back in 2013, Boris claimed that any suggestion he had actually promised 1,000 more police officers was a "wilful misconstruction".


Promise: In 2008 Boris promised to end what he called the "culture of cronyism" at City Hall, explaining in his manifesto that: "We believe that all appointments should be based on merit, and not on personal patronage. Our administration will seek to recruit the right people for London who have the experience and the skills to deliver our agenda for change."

Result: Since being elected in 2008 Boris has hired a number of old colleagues and supporters, including his cycling commissioner Andrew Gilligan and the former editor of the Evening Standard Veronica Wadley, without any competitive recruitment process. Wadley, who was a former colleague of Boris's and a fervent supporter of Johnson while at the Standard, was handed a £95,000 a year job as Boris's "volunteering czar" despite admitting to having almost no volunteering experience. No other candidates were considered for the job.


Promise: In 2008 Boris promised to introduce cabinet-style government to "strengthen the decision-making process in City Hall". According to his manifesto "The Cabinet will meet on a regular basis, formal minutes will be taken, and the full agenda papers will be put on the Mayor’s website."

Result: No mayoral cabinet was ever set up.


Promise: In 2012 Boris also promised to set up a "cabbies cabinet" to deal with the concerns of London taxi drivers.

Result: Plans for a formal cabbies cabinet were scrapped in 2013. City Hall's relationship with the London taxi trade has continued to deteriorate in the past five years, culminating in large disruptive protests both inside and outside City Hall.


Source: Politics.co.uk - article by Adam Beinkov.


Boris - currently to be found making sweeping promises about Brexit... buyer beware...

[CrazyHorse]

Who gives a shit about broken promises in London?

[Bruce Rioja]

Who gives a shit about broken promises in London?

Anyone who reads anything whatsoever in to whatever that mug says deserves to be offended as a result.

[Hoboh]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016 ... -thinktank" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So yet another 'big idea' of government control over things.

Okay the 'youth' so we are told love the EU, the fact they can all jump into work across the EU yet they remain here and moan about house prices?
Live in mainland EU utopia then, after all there are the jobs and opportunities out there, aren't there?

And a quick look reveals property in Bulgaria for under a grand less than five with a bit of work.

[Worthy4England]

Do you own a corner shop or something? Is everyone supposed to work at t'mill coz that's what used to happen? Dear me.