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[bobo the clown]

^^no-one is arguing about research on drugs. Some of the esoteric high-end .... & staggeringly expensive stuff is simply kite flying with no end goal.

I I found a bucket of Higgs Bosun what would I do with it ?

aye - and the experience of progress is that it is often kite0-flying research that leads to the expansion of knowledge... that's a good thing.

i think the idea that people are handed billions of quids with no restrictions and a looney idea to research bobbins and live off the fat of their gold-plated grants is simply Daily-Mail bobbins-talk.

Cern most certainly is. My former Company seconded a few Technologists AND supplied some equipment and products.

The sales were snigger-making from the Commercial side. The prices we got were ludicrous. Negotiations consisted of "How mush is that ?" .... "Ooooh. Heck on a lot (states number we knew we'd never get but it was a start)" .... "that'll be fine. Thanks. I assume that is £Sterling ?" ..."Oh ... err ... err ... yes. Yes, of course £sterling (it wasn't we always dealt in $'s)" .... "OK. Done" ... "Thank you VERY much".

[Lord Kangana]

A fantastic example of EU stimulus economics no? Or are you suggesting your company misused the money?

[bobo the clown]

A fantastic example of EU stimulus economics no? Or are you suggesting your company misused the money?

I'm suggesting a zero level of commercial awareness, gross overspending, managed by amateurs, no corporate Governance .... y'know, uncontrolled public spending on a European scale.

[Lord Kangana]

So your companies profits were overstated and the companies share value was overinflated by the actions of the EU then? I wonder how many companies this is happening to, and when that money stops how much effect it will havebon our economy?

[bobo the clown]

Incompetence is hardly the basis of an economic miracle, now is it ?

[Lord Kangana]

If the net result was gain, why would the intention matter?

[Hoboh]

I'll bet some of the remainers who said on here It was up to the leavers to sort things out will be smiling tonight
Some folk should be careful what they wish for.

[Worthy4England]

I'll bet some of the remainers who said on here It was up to the leavers to sort things out will be smiling tonight
Some folk should be careful what they wish for.

It is up to the leavers to sort it out. Think it's great that there's a good few of them in Government to deliver on their promises. Can't wait for the land of milk n honey. Get on with it, already.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

No surprise here. I mentioned this several weeks back...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Hoboh]

No surprise here. I mentioned this several weeks back...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep and they will be holding the sun back for a couple of mins every day just to spite the Brits as well!

Fcuk me nothing has happened yet but still project fear rolls on.

I'll say one thing about this referendum it's certainly 'outed' the selfish me, me entitled pretend middle class.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

No surprise here. I mentioned this several weeks back...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep and they will be holding the sun back for a couple of mins every day just to spite the Brits as well!

Fcuk me nothing has happened yet but still project fear rolls on.

I'll say one thing about this referendum it's certainly 'outed' the selfish me, me entitled pretend middle class.

Very selfish of me to want access to safe pharmaceuticals in a timely fashion

There is nothing project fear about the EMA leaving the UK. There is no spite, it's a simple case of an EU institution having to be based in an EU country. When the UK leaves the EU it will the UK as soon as it is able to. This is a fact.

[thebish]

I'll say one thing about this referendum it's certainly 'outed' the selfish me

that's very honest of you, Hobes. respect

[Hoboh]

No surprise here. I mentioned this several weeks back...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... are_btn_fb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep and they will be holding the sun back for a couple of mins every day just to spite the Brits as well!

Fcuk me nothing has happened yet but still project fear rolls on.

I'll say one thing about this referendum it's certainly 'outed' the selfish me, me entitled pretend middle class.

Very selfish of me to want access to safe pharmaceuticals in a timely fashion

There is nothing project fear about the EMA leaving the UK. There is no spite, it's a simple case of an EU institution having to be based in an EU country. When the UK leaves the EU it will the UK as soon as it is able to. This is a fact.

Oh you mean the 'quick fix' EU regs that affected those people on clinical trials in France then?
The ones designed to get medical stuff on the market quick for the large Phama industries?
I am not anti medical trials (in fact I'm part of one) nor am I anti drug development nor anything else but it is a bit rich to suggest that just because the EU has been eroding nation governments abilities for years to suggest the world is ending.

Maybe we should turn all our wind turbines towards the continent and blow back the shitty air they send us from time to time?

[Hoboh]

I'll say one thing about this referendum it's certainly 'outed' the selfish me

that's very honest of you, Hobes. respect

Now, if you can point out exactly where I said that, give me six numbers

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Oh you mean the 'quick fix' EU regs that affected those people on clinical trials in France then?
The ones designed to get medical stuff on the market quick for the large Phama industries?
I am not anti medical trials (in fact I'm part of one) nor am I anti drug development nor anything else but it is a bit rich to suggest that just because the EU has been eroding nation governments abilities for years to suggest the world is ending.

Maybe we should turn all our wind turbines towards the continent and blow back the shitty air they send us from time to time?

They've been harmonising standards across the EU to the higher standard, not the lowest. They've harmonised the process of getting drugs to market, meaning a pharma company has 1 process rather than 28, meaning lower cost and significantly less time. They've harmonised reporting of adverse effects, meaning if someone has a bad reaction to something in say Bulgaria then it is reported not just to the Bulgarian authorities but to the EMA who collate info from all authorities. This means problems are known about in greater detail and quicker. This means you've less chance of taking a dodgy drug. I've seen this working at first hand and it saves lives.

None of this might matter to you, but it does matter to the health of the nation. Still, ignorance is bliss eh...

[Montreal Wanderer]

Oh you mean the 'quick fix' EU regs that affected those people on clinical trials in France then?
The ones designed to get medical stuff on the market quick for the large Phama industries?
I am not anti medical trials (in fact I'm part of one) nor am I anti drug development nor anything else but it is a bit rich to suggest that just because the EU has been eroding nation governments abilities for years to suggest the world is ending.

Maybe we should turn all our wind turbines towards the continent and blow back the shitty air they send us from time to time?

Anti-paranoia medication?

[Prufrock]

While I appreciate since folk are on a fishing mission. There's a nice irony about people posting on internet forums about how useful CERN are and how they don't have any real world applications!

[bobo the clown]

While I appreciate since folk are on a fishing mission. There's a nice irony about people posting on internet forums about how useful CERN are and how they don't have any real world applications!

I think the internet receded CERN & would have developed quite nicely without it.

... & if people wanted to spruce it up, spending an initial €20bn on complicated technology to discover something pointless about something useless (which, incidentally, has spent more than half its existence broken down) seems an odd way of going about it.

[Lord Kangana]

If we were that worried as a species about the unreliability of cutting-edge technology, I'm pretty sure we'd all still be hurling rocks at each other and staring at fires "ooh fire".... only less well articulated, because of course we all know what fire is so why invent a word for it?

I appreciate it's hard to back down when you've made a bit of a silly point, but that notwithstanding, it's a silly point. Progress is a nice thing.

[BWFC_Insane]

While I appreciate since folk are on a fishing mission. There's a nice irony about people posting on internet forums about how useful CERN are and how they don't have any real world applications!

I think the internet receded CERN & would have developed quite nicely without it.

... & if people wanted to spruce it up, spending an initial €20bn on complicated technology to discover something pointless about something useless (which, incidentally, has spent more than half its existence broken down) seems an odd way of going about it.

Quite excited for you to explain how the Internet precedes the formation of CERN, is this going to be some tinfoil hat conspiracy shit?