Muslims, racists, individuals and attitudes.

[Gary the Enfield]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

[Lord Kangana]

(Round of applause)

[Montreal Wanderer]

I'd say make her wear a yellow crescent moon sewed on to her clothes to identify her as a potential terrorist before we throw her and her type out.

Perhaps we should make her pay for her 'crime' by taking her to a work camp. After a few years labour her work would make her free to continue her life.

I'm not in any way serious.

We would need to concentrate all the yellow moons in one camp so they'd be easier to guard... Actually it was the British who invented concentration camps in the South African War.

Presumably they are operated slightly differently to the ones run by, say the Nazis?

Well, yes although they were not very nice.. However, this response was part of the irony thread begun by LK - not to be taken seriously.

[Hoboh]

Do you have kids/grown up kids?

Yes

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Well, yes although they were not very nice.. However, this response was part of the irony thread begun by LK - not to be taken seriously.

I can imagine that they were less than pleasant places

Don't worry I wasn't taking you seriously, but for Hoboh's benefit (as he likes tarring folk with similar brushes) I thought I'd clarify

[Hoboh]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?

I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.

I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?

I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

[Gary the Enfield]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?
Yup

I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.
Where would you deport them/ their disbelieving parents to?

I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?
Beyond doubt? Probably not. Initially? Very definitely. So would you

I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

Shortly I'm off to the near continent for a week. We'll be visiting Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. Not quite Turkey or Tunisia but still a volatile area in terms of recent events.

[Hoboh]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?
Yup
Yet another one hurling name calling at those they accuse of name calling! and labelling
I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.
Where would you deport them/ their disbelieving parents to?
Fair point, I'd just prohibit them from benefits or holding passports etc.
I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?
Beyond doubt? Probably not. Initially? Very definitely. So would you
DNA not good enough for you?
I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

Shortly I'm off to the near continent for a week. We'll be visiting Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. Not quite Turkey or Tunisia but still a volatile area in terms of recent events.
A week? you actually staying anywhere or merely passing through? I'd still be happy to do those countries have actually been planning a trip to Germany on the motorbikes although other things keep cropping up to put a spanner in the works but it sure ain't ISIS.

[Prufrock]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?

I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.

I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?

I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

No you wouldn't. You'd be talking about how we needed to wait to see if it was mental illness.

[Prufrock]

I'd say make her wear a yellow crescent moon sewed on to her clothes to identify her as a potential terrorist before we throw her and her type out.

Perhaps we should make her pay for her 'crime' by taking her to a work camp. After a few years labour her work would make her free to continue her life.

I'm not in any way serious.

We would need to concentrate all the yellow moons in one camp so they'd be easier to guard... Actually it was the British who invented concentration camps in the South African War.

Presumably they are operated slightly differently to the ones run by, say the Nazis?

Well, yes although they were not very nice.. However, this response was part of the irony thread begun by LK - not to be taken seriously.

It's a distinction lost, but one with bearing in mind, that concentration camps and death camps were usually different places entirely. Again, not that concentration camps weren't awful places, but we tend to elide the two.

[BWFC_Insane]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?

I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.

I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?

I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

No you wouldn't. You'd be talking about how we needed to wait to see if it was mental illness.

Bang! Was just about to post the same.

[Worthy4England]

Do you have kids/grown up kids?

Yes

See, outwardly, I might say it was indefensible too, if it was one of mine. Inwardly, I'd be trying to work out how I'd got it wrong. And somewhere in the deep recesses of my head, I'd be gutted, coz we all (generally) love our kids. That doesn't make anyone who reacts differently outwards "stupid" or owt else like it. Just makes them a parent, with all the feelings many parents feel.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I'd say make her wear a yellow crescent moon sewed on to her clothes to identify her as a potential terrorist before we throw her and her type out.

Perhaps we should make her pay for her 'crime' by taking her to a work camp. After a few years labour her work would make her free to continue her life.

I'm not in any way serious.

We would need to concentrate all the yellow moons in one camp so they'd be easier to guard... Actually it was the British who invented concentration camps in the South African War.

Well, yes although they were not very nice.. However, this response was part of the irony thread begun by LK - not to be taken seriously.

It's a distinction lost, but one with bearing in mind, that concentration camps and death camps were usually different places entirely. Again, not that concentration camps weren't awful places, but we tend to elide the two.

I might argue with you but I don't know what "elide" means.... (well, not in this context)

[Prufrock]

It's a distinction lost, but one with bearing in mind, that concentration camps and death camps were usually different places entirely. Again, not that concentration camps weren't awful places, but we tend to elide the two.

I might argue with you but I don't know what "elide" means.... (well, not in this context)

Have I made this up our are you a linguist (amongst other things)? We elide when we say "don't" instead of "do not". It means sort of merge together and blur at the same time. It's a recognised metaphor generally.

[thebish]

I might argue with you but I don't know what "elide" means.... (well, not in this context)

merge... join together....

[Hoboh]

Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.

My Xenophobia?

I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.

I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?

I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?

No you wouldn't. You'd be talking about how we needed to wait to see if it was mental illness.

Let's just see eh.

[Prufrock]

We already have.

[Hoboh]

We already have.

Been to court then?

Brain doctors report out?

Or just because you wish it so to back up your soft arse theory Islam is a religion of peace?

[Montreal Wanderer]

It's a distinction lost, but one with bearing in mind, that concentration camps and death camps were usually different places entirely. Again, not that concentration camps weren't awful places, but we tend to elide the two.

I might argue with you but I don't know what "elide" means.... (well, not in this context)

Have I made this up our are you a linguist (amongst other things)? We elide when we say "don't" instead of "do not". It means sort of merge together and blur at the same time. It's a recognised metaphor generally.

I agree with 'don't' etc. in grammar but to me it always meant to take out a part like a vowel or syllable. In law (our area) it means to quash or annul. I have never heard of this metaphorical merge/blur sense which must have come to the English language after I left England. Elidere in Latin means to crush out. Still, somewhat doubtfully, I accept your assurance of this sense.

[bobo the clown]

Well, it's correct.
verb
▸to leave out a sound when you say a word or group of words, for example when you say it quickly in ordinary conversation

Not a word normally used or known by mere mortals but it's correct. I suppose the lesson it "you can be as correct as you wish but don't be surprised when people look at you and ask 'what the fck does that mean ?' ".