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Post by Gary the Enfield » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:53 am

Hoboh wrote:
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Gary the Enfield wrote:Hoboh my post was meant to demonstrate the ridiculousness of yours. Your Xenophobia worsens with every passing day. You're becoming a parody of yourself.

These incidents, horrific though they may be are not an epidemic. The people committing these atrocities are still in a minority both in the counties they are active and in the religion they purport to represent.

Also, as a parent of a 15 year old girl I cannot, in all conscience, state that I know every single person she communicates with on social media. Nor would I want to. To exercise that level of control over her would be to inhibit and stunt her development as a free thinking young adult. I have to trust that she accepts my guidance in how to keep safe and knows that I am here to help if things go awry.

So I can understand the parent of a seemingly recently radicalised young man when they say they don't know how he could have carried out this atrocity.

I will also not allow these fecking cowards dictate how and when I should travel and will not cow down to their attempts at terror. In the same way I still travel on the tube after 7/7, go on planes after 9/11 and walked around city centres when the IRA tried their best to intimidate.
My Xenophobia?
Yup
Yet another one hurling name calling at those they accuse of name calling! and labelling :hang: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
I'd feel the same way if they were white armed terrorist youths from a council estate or nice little suburbia.
Where would you deport them/ their disbelieving parents to?
Fair point, I'd just prohibit them from benefits or holding passports etc. So they'd still be in the country then, with no income, which would lead them to commit acts of crime to sustain themselves? Hmmmm
I'd agree about your view on kids but come on, would you be in denial when it is proved way past doubt they had committed such an atrocity?
Beyond doubt? Probably not. Initially? Very definitely. So would you
DNA not good enough for you?DNA would prove it to me. I meant my INITIAL reaction, on hearing the news would be one of disbelief. And I still maintain yours would be too
I still fly travel around and go in city centres/shopping malls but I am careful about which countries I would visit, common sense, a cheap Turkish/Tunisian holiday or the safety of your nearest and dearest?
Shortly I'm off to the near continent for a week. We'll be visiting Belgium, France, Holland, Luxembourg and Germany. Not quite Turkey or Tunisia but still a volatile area in terms of recent events.
A week? you actually staying anywhere or merely passing through? I'd still be happy to do those countries have actually been planning a trip to Germany on the motorbikes although other things keep cropping up to put a spanner in the works but it sure ain't ISIS.
Basing ourselves in Belgium and taking day trips into the other countries. Where we're staying it's only a 2 hour drive to another country.

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Post by Prufrock » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:32 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Prufrock wrote:We already have.
Been to court then?

Brain doctors report out?

Or just because you wish it so to back up your soft arse theory Islam is a religion of peace?
Brain doctor.

Brilliant.

And I've never claimed that Islam is a religion of peace or anything or the sort.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:54 pm

What the fecking feck, here?

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Post by thebish » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:41 pm

Syria has become the latest go-to destination for all things sad and hellish... so - I was surprised and gladdened to hear this story of an oasis of hope-against-adversity deep in a syrian basement beneath the rubble...

it's well worth a listen - inspiring, I thought - hugely so...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lhh6x

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:11 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Well, it's correct.
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▸to leave out a sound when you say a word or group of words, for example when you say it quickly in ordinary conversation

Not a word normally used or known by mere mortals but it's correct. I suppose the lesson it "you can be as correct as you wish but don't be surprised when people look at you and ask 'what the fck does that mean ?' ".
I agree it is not in common parlance either in true meaning or metaphorically, which why I confessed I did not know what Prufrock meant. Now I do.
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Post by thebish » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:57 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote: I agree with 'don't' etc. in grammar but to me it always meant to take out a part like a vowel or syllable. In law (our area) it means to quash or annul. I have never heard of this metaphorical merge/blur sense which must have come to the English language after I left England. Elidere in Latin means to crush out. Still, somewhat doubtfully, I accept your assurance of this sense. :wink:
you'd be wise to - as it is correct usage in the land where English is spoke proper...

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:54 pm

Our news is telling us a Norwegian Muslim killed an American woman in London (and wounded half a dozen others). I'm not sure what the analysts will make of that (if true).
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Post by thebish » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:05 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:Our news is telling us a Norwegian Muslim killed an American woman in London (and wounded half a dozen others). I'm not sure what the analysts will make of that (if true).
our news is telling us it was most likely "triggered by mental health issues".

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Post by boltonboris » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:51 am

Our pathetically soft outlets are basically saying "mad Norweigan" instead of Somali refugee
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Post by thebish » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:31 pm

boltonboris wrote:Our pathetically soft outlets are basically saying "mad Norweigan" instead of Somali refugee
if the cause behind this horrific attack was mental illness - then "Somali", "Norwegian", "refugee", Bolton Fan, plumber, house-husband, man, ginger-haired, trainspotter, bearded.... is simply trivial detail of no real consequence...

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Post by Enoch » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:37 pm

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Post by malcd1 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:51 pm

There have not been too many articles in the UK but Boko Haram's new leader in Nigeria is threatening to bomb churches and kill Christians while ending attacks on mosques and markets used by ordinary Muslims, according to an interview published Wednesday by the Islamic State group. Funnily enough I can only find a story by the Daily Mail in the UK while there are dozens and dozens from overseas.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/b ... -1.2738149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Al-Barnawi says the militants will respond to that threat by "booby-trapping and blowing up every church that we are able to reach, and killing all of those (Christians) who we find from the citizens of the cross."
But don't worry, it has nothing to do with religion or the 'Religion of Peace'.
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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:37 pm

It's certainly related to terrorism.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:33 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:Our news is telling us a Norwegian Muslim killed an American woman in London (and wounded half a dozen others). I'm not sure what the analysts will make of that (if true).
Our news outlets just tell us what a geriatric Aussie megolomaniac, wealthy tax exile and Mafia consort want us to believe, Monty.

And sadly, plenty do.
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Post by malcd1 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:09 am

Not sure what Belgium has done to deserve so many peaceful followers of Islam but they have their share. I suppose he had a mental illness as well.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:32 am

Well they're terrorists.

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:35 am

Staying near there later in the week......

Arrived in Antwerp yesterday. Beautiful city and a lovely atmosphere. Fantastic architecture. Nice beer. Strong though at 9.5% by volume. 3 of those and I was giggling like a girl. #lightweight. :mrgreen:

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Post by malcd1 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:00 am

Worthy4England wrote:Well they're terrorists.
Religious terrorists in support of IS (Islamic State). The clue is in the name.
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Post by Worthy4England » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:24 am

malcd1 wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:Well they're terrorists.
Religious terrorists in support of IS (Islamic State). The clue is in the name.
Terrorists are terrorists. IS are a terrorist organization. There have been plenty such down the years. Al Qaeda was very similar yet didn't have Islamic nor State in its name. I'd be very surprised if some of the same terrorist weren't associated to both. Some estimates have the number of Muslims in the world around 1.6 billion. What sort of percentage do you reckon the perpetrators make up?

I really don't get what you're thinking to achieve by posting Religion of Peace things every time an attack happens, but hey it's your bandwidth.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:13 pm

UKIP stands for the United Kingdom Independence Party.

I think they're a bunch of xenophobic, racist, faux-nostalgic f*cknuggets who masquerade as a political party.

Being from the UK, does that mean we're all racist, xenophobic faux nostalgic f*cknuggets?
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