Make or makes?
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Make or makes?
On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
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Re: Make or makes?
It would depend on what Morrisons is a contraction of. If Morrisons is short for Morrison's grocery store 'makes it' is correct. n the other hand, if it is short for Morrisons' grocery store 'make it' is correct. The fundamental question is how many Morrisons were there? Or, conversely, not of course.TANGODANCER wrote:On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
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Re: Make or makes?
Lost me thereMontreal Wanderer wrote:It would depend on what Morrisons is a contraction of. If Morrisons is short for Morrison's grocery store 'makes it' is correct. n the other hand, if it is short for Morrisons' grocery store 'make it' is correct. The fundamental question is how many Morrisons were there? Or, conversely, not of course.TANGODANCER wrote:On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
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Morrisons is the fourth largest supermarket chain in the U.K. Monty. Where does that leave us on the question?Montreal Wanderer wrote:It would depend on what Morrisons is a contraction of. If Morrisons is short for Morrison's grocery store 'makes it' is correct. n the other hand, if it is short for Morrisons' grocery store 'make it' is correct. The fundamental question is how many Morrisons were there? Or, conversely, not of course.TANGODANCER wrote:On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
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Re: Make or makes?
Nowhere really. Whitakers was short for Whitaker's department store - a singular entity so 'makes'. Moss Bros on the other hand were brithers so plural thus 'make'. But I don't know what Morrisons stands for, regardless of its/their size and where the apostrophe might be.TANGODANCER wrote:Morrisons is the fourth largest supermarket chain in the U.K. Monty. Where does that leave us on the question?Montreal Wanderer wrote:It would depend on what Morrisons is a contraction of. If Morrisons is short for Morrison's grocery store 'makes it' is correct. n the other hand, if it is short for Morrisons' grocery store 'make it' is correct. The fundamental question is how many Morrisons were there? Or, conversely, not of course.TANGODANCER wrote:On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
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This comes up loads and it's like you all switch off once I start writing about metonymic shift.
Basically both are right. Pedants would insist it should be "makes" as it is the singular company that makes them. However, that leaves you with sentences like the jarring, American, "Arsenal keeps letting one-goal leads slip". We English are much more subtle in recognising that it's much more naturally efforts of many people (staff or players) which go into making cakes are letting slip leads and so "Morrisons make it" sounds more natural to me, too, TD.
Basically both are right. Pedants would insist it should be "makes" as it is the singular company that makes them. However, that leaves you with sentences like the jarring, American, "Arsenal keeps letting one-goal leads slip". We English are much more subtle in recognising that it's much more naturally efforts of many people (staff or players) which go into making cakes are letting slip leads and so "Morrisons make it" sounds more natural to me, too, TD.
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Eh? I'm not having that. In both your sentences the subject of the verb is the grocery store (singular). Doesn't matter how many people own it.Montreal Wanderer wrote:It would depend on what Morrisons is a contraction of. If Morrisons is short for Morrison's grocery store 'makes it' is correct. n the other hand, if it is short for Morrisons' grocery store 'make it' is correct. The fundamental question is how many Morrisons were there? Or, conversely, not of course.TANGODANCER wrote:On a Morrisons product ( a pack of doughnuts) they have the words "Morrisons makes it". I'm thinking that should be "Morrisons make it" as it's referring to a product ...?????
I don't think there is an apostrophe in Morrisons. Thinks it's many people called Morrison making a company which takes a plural verb due to metoymic shift.
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Re: Make or makes?
Reason I asked the question primarily was because it just jarred as wrong to me. Morrisons, as Pru rightly thinks, has no apostrophe in the name (should it have one after it then? ) if referring to the group? Tesco and Asda have no "s" at the end and Sainsbury's has an apostrophe before the s. Which just confuses thing s a bit more. For the latter I say " make it" and the other two, either could apply. ? Oh. the apple doughnuts were fine by the way.. were for past tense as I've already eaten them and they no longer exist in their original form)..
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Re: Make or makes?
Were the doughnuts any bloody good? Not arsed who made 'em!
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Morrison's supplied them (past tense) and they were decent, not exceptional, but decent. At fifty pence for five -a regular price- and with the choice of apple, strawberry or custard that makes good value in my book.Worthy4England wrote:Were the doughnuts any bloody good? Not arsed who made 'em!
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Morrison's should have an apostrophe. Wankers.
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Re: Make or makes?
I'd question whether they could be classed as doughnuts. Since their dumbing down exercise, Morrisons makes shit would probably be more appropriate.
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Re: Make or makes?
Now we're getting to the heart of the matter.
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