Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
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Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
True. Though still hard for any striker when the ball is passed sideways in front of a team. If nobody is prepared to get behind the defence it's tough....boltonboris wrote:You can't create chances when your striker doesn't make a run.BWFC_Insane wrote:How many chances did he miss? I mean he wasn't very good today generally. But you could have Lineker in his pomp up there today and it'd have made no difference. We created nowt.Athertonian wrote:Sick of arguing regarding Madine because I think he's a waste of a shirt. He has no skill no idea and no pace. "yeah but he gives 100%" said the voice aimed in my direction. Madine can't score goals and for what he does is no use to this team.
From what I have witnessed in recent league games were going to need a lot of good fortune if we are to gain automatic promotion and even the play offs.
I know the club is still in deep shit and we can't afford a goal scorer but please Parky drop the dead donkey.
Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
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Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
This is my issue with Madine, yes he is absolutely shite - he can't head a ball or shoot without scuffing it, but its his lack of effort & desire that is my biggest issue with Madine.BWFC_Insane wrote: Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
I've watched him regularly, to see his general movement and what he does when we have the ball and from the stands it looks like he plays like he really doesn't give a shite - he looks like he's sulking, and I personally think that he's lazy & puts as little as possible effort in games.
I've gone to games with non BWFC fans at home on occasions last season & this, and even though they don't know who he is they comment on how bad he is. Even when the ball is crossed to him in the air, for a big man he doesn't attack the ball with any intent or desire - he either jumps too early or late....the odd time that he wins the 1st ball he just stands still, doesn't make runs into space or show for the ball - he's basically a big target man in a team that likes to play directly, but he's a very poor one.
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Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
I think a lot of it might have to do with his mentality rather and lack of effort or desire. I remember in post match interviews after the Blackburn win last year, and the Gillingham win this season, where both times he had significantly contributed to us winning, he mentions how he hasn't been doing his job and not been scoring enough his goals. Basically pretty down on himself in what should be a positive moment . In one interview in the BEN, he mentions arguing with a fan at Wimbledon about the "washing machine" label. Essentially I see a player who isn't relaxed and doubting himself, and possibly almost afraid of missing.Peter Thompson wrote:This is my issue with Madine, yes he is absolutely shite - he can't head a ball or shoot without scuffing it, but its his lack of effort & desire that is my biggest issue with Madine.BWFC_Insane wrote: Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
I've watched him regularly, to see his general movement and what he does when we have the ball and from the stands it looks like he plays like he really doesn't give a shite - he looks like he's sulking, and I personally think that he's lazy & puts as little as possible effort in games.
I've gone to games with non BWFC fans at home on occasions last season & this, and even though they don't know who he is they comment on how bad he is. Even when the ball is crossed to him in the air, for a big man he doesn't attack the ball with any intent or desire - he either jumps too early or late....the odd time that he wins the 1st ball he just stands still, doesn't make runs into space or show for the ball - he's basically a big target man in a team that likes to play directly, but he's a very poor one.
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Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
Yep. Think this is true. Scared to miss, so doesn't make the run.bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I think a lot of it might have to do with his mentality rather and lack of effort or desire. I remember in post match interviews after the Blackburn win last year, and the Gillingham win this season, where both times he had significantly contributed to us winning, he mentions how he hasn't been doing his job and not been scoring enough his goals. Basically pretty down on himself in what should be a positive moment . In one interview in the BEN, he mentions arguing with a fan at Wimbledon about the "washing machine" label. Essentially I see a player who isn't relaxed and doubting himself, and possibly almost afraid of missing.Peter Thompson wrote:This is my issue with Madine, yes he is absolutely shite - he can't head a ball or shoot without scuffing it, but its his lack of effort & desire that is my biggest issue with Madine.BWFC_Insane wrote: Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
I've watched him regularly, to see his general movement and what he does when we have the ball and from the stands it looks like he plays like he really doesn't give a shite - he looks like he's sulking, and I personally think that he's lazy & puts as little as possible effort in games.
I've gone to games with non BWFC fans at home on occasions last season & this, and even though they don't know who he is they comment on how bad he is. Even when the ball is crossed to him in the air, for a big man he doesn't attack the ball with any intent or desire - he either jumps too early or late....the odd time that he wins the 1st ball he just stands still, doesn't make runs into space or show for the ball - he's basically a big target man in a team that likes to play directly, but he's a very poor one.
I still think he mostly does a good job. But in the box he definitely goes missing. And misses.
Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
BWFC_Insane wrote:Yep. Think this is true. Scared to miss, so doesn't make the run.bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I think a lot of it might have to do with his mentality rather and lack of effort or desire. I remember in post match interviews after the Blackburn win last year, and the Gillingham win this season, where both times he had significantly contributed to us winning, he mentions how he hasn't been doing his job and not been scoring enough his goals. Basically pretty down on himself in what should be a positive moment . In one interview in the BEN, he mentions arguing with a fan at Wimbledon about the "washing machine" label. Essentially I see a player who isn't relaxed and doubting himself, and possibly almost afraid of missing.Peter Thompson wrote:This is my issue with Madine, yes he is absolutely shite - he can't head a ball or shoot without scuffing it, but its his lack of effort & desire that is my biggest issue with Madine.BWFC_Insane wrote: Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
I've watched him regularly, to see his general movement and what he does when we have the ball and from the stands it looks like he plays like he really doesn't give a shite - he looks like he's sulking, and I personally think that he's lazy & puts as little as possible effort in games.
I've gone to games with non BWFC fans at home on occasions last season & this, and even though they don't know who he is they comment on how bad he is. Even when the ball is crossed to him in the air, for a big man he doesn't attack the ball with any intent or desire - he either jumps too early or late....the odd time that he wins the 1st ball he just stands still, doesn't make runs into space or show for the ball - he's basically a big target man in a team that likes to play directly, but he's a very poor one.
I still think he mostly does a good job. But in the box he definitely goes missing. And misses.
I noticed that aswell. Think maybe a psychiatrist is in order to help him get more confident but he seems the sort that would be reluctant to try that sort of thing.
Re: Pigs might fly...Charlton (h) 28th Jan 2017
I think Gary Madine crossed that particular rubicon a long, long time ago. His two-year deal is up in June. Goodbye.Mar wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Yep. Think this is true. Scared to miss, so doesn't make the run.bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I think a lot of it might have to do with his mentality rather and lack of effort or desire. I remember in post match interviews after the Blackburn win last year, and the Gillingham win this season, where both times he had significantly contributed to us winning, he mentions how he hasn't been doing his job and not been scoring enough his goals. Basically pretty down on himself in what should be a positive moment . In one interview in the BEN, he mentions arguing with a fan at Wimbledon about the "washing machine" label. Essentially I see a player who isn't relaxed and doubting himself, and possibly almost afraid of missing.Peter Thompson wrote:This is my issue with Madine, yes he is absolutely shite - he can't head a ball or shoot without scuffing it, but its his lack of effort & desire that is my biggest issue with Madine.BWFC_Insane wrote: Totally agree about Madine's movement in the box, it's non existent. It isn't even something that requires ability. Just basic effort and desire.
I've watched him regularly, to see his general movement and what he does when we have the ball and from the stands it looks like he plays like he really doesn't give a shite - he looks like he's sulking, and I personally think that he's lazy & puts as little as possible effort in games.
I've gone to games with non BWFC fans at home on occasions last season & this, and even though they don't know who he is they comment on how bad he is. Even when the ball is crossed to him in the air, for a big man he doesn't attack the ball with any intent or desire - he either jumps too early or late....the odd time that he wins the 1st ball he just stands still, doesn't make runs into space or show for the ball - he's basically a big target man in a team that likes to play directly, but he's a very poor one.
I still think he mostly does a good job. But in the box he definitely goes missing. And misses.
I noticed that aswell. Think maybe a psychiatrist is in order to help him get more confident but he seems the sort that would be reluctant to try that sort of thing.
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