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Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
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Which in itself tells you as much as you need to know. Absolutely fecking dreadfulbedwetter2 wrote:Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
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Not keen then, eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:Which in itself tells you as much as you need to know. Absolutely fecking dreadfulbedwetter2 wrote:Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
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One of the greatest disappointments of long drives home was when you'd get to R4's funny slot at 18:30, birthplace of so much wonderful British comedy, to learn that that shit was on. Next thing you know it's somehow made it onto TV along with Mrs Brown's Boys and Citizen Khan.bedwetter2 wrote:Not keen then, eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:Which in itself tells you as much as you need to know. Absolutely fecking dreadfulbedwetter2 wrote:Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
For me, our country has never been in poorer shape by way of home-grown TV comedy than where we are right now.
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Russell Bland, comedian, says it all about the lack of talent Bruce.Bruce Rioja wrote:One of the greatest disappointments of long drives home was when you'd get to R4's funny slot at 18:30, birthplace of so much wonderful British comedy, to learn that that shit was on. Next thing you know it's somehow made it onto TV along with Mrs Brown's Boys and Citizen Khan.bedwetter2 wrote:Not keen then, eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:Which in itself tells you as much as you need to know. Absolutely fecking dreadfulbedwetter2 wrote:Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
For me, our country has never been in poorer shape by way of home-grown TV comedy than where we are right now.
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My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.Bruce Rioja wrote:One of the greatest disappointments of long drives home was when you'd get to R4's funny slot at 18:30, birthplace of so much wonderful British comedy, to learn that that shit was on. Next thing you know it's somehow made it onto TV along with Mrs Brown's Boys and Citizen Khan.bedwetter2 wrote:Not keen then, eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:Which in itself tells you as much as you need to know. Absolutely fecking dreadfulbedwetter2 wrote:Anyone going to see Count Arthur in his new tour - The Sound of Mucus?
For me, our country has never been in poorer shape by way of home-grown TV comedy than where we are right now.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
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What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
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But not now we don't. I'd say that this country is currently producing the most dreadful non-comedy that I've ever come across.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
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Right now. I'd agree yes.Bruce Rioja wrote:But not now we don't. I'd say that this country is currently producing the most dreadful non-comedy that I've ever come across.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
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You old buggers! you just don't GET IT :BWFC_Insane wrote:Right now. I'd agree yes.Bruce Rioja wrote:But not now we don't. I'd say that this country is currently producing the most dreadful non-comedy that I've ever come across.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
(dig a little deeper, beneath what's on prime-time telly, and you'll find some gems)
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Apart from one or two possible and honourable exceptions such as Blackadder and maybe Black Books I'm struggling to think of these 'finest' comedies. So please help me out - name some.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
Regards political correctness, people who used to work for the BBC but then saw the light such as Rod Liddle are very emphatic that there is a pervasive problem stopping innovation and avoiding risks. It was reported that of all the people who work on Newsnight, 0% read any newspaper other than The Grauniad. Don't you think that the same applies to comedy commissioning editors at the BBC, Sky and ITV?
The revival of Open All Hours, Are You Being Served, and others speaks of the paucity of new ideas and a desire not to take risks.
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Catastrophe and Fleabag are two excellent comedies of the last couple of years, off the top of my head.
Older comedies, like older music, have the benefit of going first. There is definitely a drive (particulalry at, but not limited to, the BBC) to aim for more "diversity", but it's not through political correctness; rather, there have already been countless sit-coms about a group of white grads living together, say. A new version of that has to be outstanding to make it through, and outstanding shows are naturally few and far between. So TV companies are inclined to favour "new" things, even if they aren't as tightly written or as "good" as the 7/10 but unoriginal stuff they get across their desks.
Older comedies, like older music, have the benefit of going first. There is definitely a drive (particulalry at, but not limited to, the BBC) to aim for more "diversity", but it's not through political correctness; rather, there have already been countless sit-coms about a group of white grads living together, say. A new version of that has to be outstanding to make it through, and outstanding shows are naturally few and far between. So TV companies are inclined to favour "new" things, even if they aren't as tightly written or as "good" as the 7/10 but unoriginal stuff they get across their desks.
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There have been a number of highly and widely critically regarded comedies since the 80's (I like some, and not others but that is down to taste).bedwetter2 wrote:Apart from one or two possible and honourable exceptions such as Blackadder and maybe Black Books I'm struggling to think of these 'finest' comedies. So please help me out - name some.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
Regards political correctness, people who used to work for the BBC but then saw the light such as Rod Liddle are very emphatic that there is a pervasive problem stopping innovation and avoiding risks. It was reported that of all the people who work on Newsnight, 0% read any newspaper other than The Grauniad. Don't you think that the same applies to comedy commissioning editors at the BBC, Sky and ITV?
The revival of Open All Hours, Are You Being Served, and others speaks of the paucity of new ideas and a desire not to take risks.
To name but a few:
Ab Fab
The Office
Peep Show
Green wing
I'm Alan Partridge
Father Ted
The thick of it
The mighty boosh
The league of gentlemen
The royal family
That is off the top of my head. I don't like everything on that list. There is more than enough there to find something for everyone.
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Source?bedwetter2 wrote:Apart from one or two possible and honourable exceptions such as Blackadder and maybe Black Books I'm struggling to think of these 'finest' comedies. So please help me out - name some.BWFC_Insane wrote:What is it that political correctness actually prevents?bedwetter2 wrote:
My original question was prompted by noticing an advert which set out around 40 dates around the country. 40? I wasn't advising anyone to go, by the way.
I'm afraid that comedy in general has been going down the tubes since the 1970/80s. TV comedy bowdlerised by political correctness and the highjacking of stand-up by the 'right-on' left. Stewart Lee epitomises this for me. However I am fairly certain that persons who shall be nameless and post on here love his depressing mix of political and depressing 'comedy'. The Usual Suspects.
The overall assertion is completely wrong IMO. Since the 70s and 80s we've had some of the finest comedies ever produced in this country.
Regards political correctness, people who used to work for the BBC but then saw the light such as Rod Liddle are very emphatic that there is a pervasive problem stopping innovation and avoiding risks. It was reported that of all the people who work on Newsnight, 0% read any newspaper other than The Grauniad. Don't you think that the same applies to comedy commissioning editors at the BBC, Sky and ITV?
The revival of Open All Hours, Are You Being Served, and others speaks of the paucity of new ideas and a desire not to take risks.
Also, didn't you see Nigel Farage Gets His Life Back on BBC2? I highly doubt the people who birthed that particular turd are all died-in-the-wool lefty guardian-reading Stewart Lee-fawning PC wankers who are ruining comedy on the telly.
What have you brought ITV into the discussion for? They're hardly renowned for their comedy output!
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Early Doors was a cracker.
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This thread is comedy gold.
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
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I understand much more about bw2 from his opening gambit. It's all becoming clear now. Just for the record, that Stewart Lee fella is shit. Oh and David Mitchell too.
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Going to see Jack Whitehall in Leeds tonight. Not through choice I might add. It was a birthday present from Mrs BP. I used to despise him, but he's grown on me having watched him on A League of their Own. Not seen his stand up. Yet! Can't say that I am looking forward to it.
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Try Youtube. Throw a sickie.
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