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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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41%
Conservatives
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38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Tue May 02, 2017 10:45 am

I'm intensely relaxed about that too.
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm

I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 02, 2017 12:56 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
Indeed. And on the other side the answer to every question is "Strong and stable leadership".

So essentially we're all fecked whatever.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 02, 2017 12:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:56 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
Indeed. And on the other side the answer to every question is "Strong and stable leadership".

So essentially we're all fecked whatever.
If I hear that one more time I'm going to abstain!
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Dr Hotdog » Tue May 02, 2017 3:10 pm

If looks could krill. Give her the Milliband treatment...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...

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Post by Hoboh » Wed May 03, 2017 4:33 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...

Depends if you are a peasant and actually catch the bus......

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed May 03, 2017 4:40 am

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BOOM!

Although the focus of the advert’s words is economic, the bomb is likely to have been included as a way of reminding people of Corbyn’s pacifist views. The Conservatives have attacked him on national security after he said he would not press the nuclear button first and over his long-held belief in nuclear disarmament.
Labour had to shut down speculation that it could withdraw support for Britain’s nuclear deterrent, after Corbyn – in an interview with Andrew Marr – appeared to leave open the idea that renewing Trident could be left out of the party’s manifesto. He also suggested he would think twice about backing a strike to kill the leader of Islamic State.
The bombshell poster is not the first time that the Conservatives have attacked Corbyn over his pacifist stance. The defence secretary, Sir Michael Fallon, last month described the Labour leader as feeble and gutless on defence, claiming that the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, would welcome a Labour victory.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed May 03, 2017 4:49 am

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ta-comment

Innocent, harmless, just a bit of fun social media

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 03, 2017 9:51 am

Diane Abbott - can someone who thinks Corbyn isn't a massively incompetent, disgraceful buffoon, give me ANY justification why Abbott wasn't immediately fired from her senior position after yesterday?

If ANY of my senior managers performed like that in a meeting I'd get rid of them immediately.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed May 03, 2017 10:05 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...
Well, having no grasp of numbers clearly actually works when appealing to the stupid!

Was the bus one of the ones filled with Romanians, by the way, do we know? :D
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed May 03, 2017 11:43 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 10:05 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...
Well, having no grasp of numbers clearly actually works when appealing to the stupid!

Was the bus one of the ones filled with Romanians, by the way, do we know? :D
And just a year later...........
Among Romanians and Bulgarians - who controversially gained full access to the British job market on January 1 last year - the figures reached 219,000, a 30,000 increase year-on-year or 16 per cent, by birth rather than nationality.
 
The number of workers from the eight former Communist countries which joined the EU in 2004, including Poland, reached 982,000 between the end of July and the end of September - up 200,000 in just two years and another record.
Still lets not worry eh, cannot have you washing your own car can we Bruce? :wink:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed May 03, 2017 11:55 am

Can I ask where these numbers are from please Hobes?
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed May 03, 2017 12:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 9:51 am
Diane Abbott - can someone who thinks Corbyn isn't a massively incompetent, disgraceful buffoon, give me ANY justification why Abbott wasn't immediately fired from her senior position after yesterday?

If ANY of my senior managers performed like that in a meeting I'd get rid of them immediately.
Now who's being carried away with the right wing press bias?!

It was a pretty cringeworthy interview and in his position I'd be tempted to let her step down in a couple of days. He can't win. If he'd fired her immediately, Murdochs attack dogs would have criticised him for running a dictatorship.

I get you don't like JC, and that you may find him incompetent but a buffoon? And disgraceful? Really?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed May 03, 2017 12:52 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 11:55 am
Can I ask where these numbers are from please Hobes?
From the Daily Telegraph of Nov 11, 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... gures.html
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed May 03, 2017 12:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 10:05 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...
Well, having no grasp of numbers clearly actually works when appealing to the stupid!

Was the bus one of the ones filled with Romanians, by the way, do we know? :D
I suspect the previous bus with a big number on it had no Romanians on it. If this was a Labour bus with a big number on the side, then it would probably be full of them. :-)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 03, 2017 1:00 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 12:50 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 9:51 am
Diane Abbott - can someone who thinks Corbyn isn't a massively incompetent, disgraceful buffoon, give me ANY justification why Abbott wasn't immediately fired from her senior position after yesterday?

If ANY of my senior managers performed like that in a meeting I'd get rid of them immediately.
Now who's being carried away with the right wing press bias?!

It was a pretty cringeworthy interview and in his position I'd be tempted to let her step down in a couple of days. He can't win. If he'd fired her immediately, Murdochs attack dogs would have criticised him for running a dictatorship.

I get you don't like JC, and that you may find him incompetent but a buffoon? And disgraceful? Really?
I haven't read any press about it. Just heard the actual interview. It was beyond embarrassing. The incompetence of the Labour party has grown since even Ed's lot made fools of themselves. Which is quite some achievement.

JC is a disgrace. He is knowingly complicit in allowing an incompetent Tory govt run away with this election. His interest is in destroying the centre of the Labour party. He knows he will never lead the party to power.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed May 03, 2017 1:07 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 11:43 am
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 10:05 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 02, 2017 12:44 pm
I've been listening to Corbyn's proposals recently and wondering where the costings are.

Well, over to the proposed Home Secretary it is then :lol:

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/l ... interview/
All they've got to do now is paint one of the made up numbers on the side of a bus and they'll be onto a sure-fire winner...
Well, having no grasp of numbers clearly actually works when appealing to the stupid!

Was the bus one of the ones filled with Romanians, by the way, do we know? :D
And just a year later...........
Among Romanians and Bulgarians - who controversially gained full access to the British job market on January 1 last year - the figures reached 219,000, a 30,000 increase year-on-year or 16 per cent, by birth rather than nationality.
 
The number of workers from the eight former Communist countries which joined the EU in 2004, including Poland, reached 982,000 between the end of July and the end of September - up 200,000 in just two years and another record.
Still lets not worry eh, cannot have you washing your own car can we Bruce? :wink:
Correct. Because your little darlings are too 4ucking lazy to do it, so someone more willing has to.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed May 03, 2017 1:23 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 12:52 pm
Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 11:55 am
Can I ask where these numbers are from please Hobes?
From the Daily Telegraph of Nov 11, 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... gures.html
I'm sure I've brought this up before, but having attended a lecture given by the man whose job it is to compile such statistics (coincidentally also in 2015) I'm flabbergasted that people bandy these figures around seemingly completely oblivious as to how fundamentally flawed they are.

Indeed, when he was pressed on the very question by a perplexed audience-member, he had to admit that the way they compiled them was far from perfect, but was effectively a best guess.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed May 03, 2017 2:53 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 1:23 pm
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 12:52 pm
Lord Kangana wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 11:55 am
Can I ask where these numbers are from please Hobes?
From the Daily Telegraph of Nov 11, 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... gures.html
I'm sure I've brought this up before, but having attended a lecture given by the man whose job it is to compile such statistics (coincidentally also in 2015) I'm flabbergasted that people bandy these figures around seemingly completely oblivious as to how fundamentally flawed they are.

Indeed, when he was pressed on the very question by a perplexed audience-member, he had to admit that the way they compiled them was far from perfect, but was effectively a best guess.
Which I'm fairly sure was one of the main gripes from the Brexiteers. I seem to recall Hoboh at some length berating the "wrong figures", which we're now expected to take at face value, because they're nearer his estimation based on bugger all.

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