The Politics Thread

[Worthy4England]

So you don't know? A bloke that knows how many Romanian's live in Upper Dicker? It's like having our very own Diane Abbott.

[Hoboh]

So you don't know? A bloke that knows how many Romanian's live in Upper Dicker? It's like having our very own Diane Abbott.

I've not looked but some figures I have seen were around the £21bn mark

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

But would the renationalisation of the railways be phased as an when franchises are due for renewal or handed back because First et al have milked it as much as it can already?

Don't agree with renationalising Royal Mail, just regulate to ensure a minimum service level available to all. As for energy, just don't allow them to have hundreds of different tariffs and make sure they're regulated properly.

Oh yeah, don't let Diane Abbott anywhere near any form of responsibility!

[Hoboh]

But would the renationalisation of the railways be phased as an when franchises are due for renewal or handed back because First et al have milked it as much as it can already?

Don't agree with renationalising Royal Mail, just regulate to ensure a minimum service level available to all. As for energy, just don't allow them to have hundreds of different tariffs and make sure they're regulated properly.

Oh yeah, don't let Diane Abbott anywhere near any form of responsibility!

That would make much more sense coupled with a huge rise in penalties for failure to comply with regulation.

I'm afraid the days of old style nationalisation are long gone in today's world except in a state of war or under emergency powers.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

But would the renationalisation of the railways be phased as an when franchises are due for renewal or handed back because First et al have milked it as much as it can already?

Don't agree with renationalising Royal Mail, just regulate to ensure a minimum service level available to all. As for energy, just don't allow them to have hundreds of different tariffs and make sure they're regulated properly.

Oh yeah, don't let Diane Abbott anywhere near any form of responsibility!

That would make much more sense coupled with a huge rise in penalties for failure to comply with regulation.

I'm afraid the days of old style nationalisation are long gone in today's world except in a state of war or under emergency powers.

The current situation with the railways is an absolute mess. BR wasn't great but they lacked investment. Lots of taxpayer and ticket funded investment now and it's barely better. The taxpayer is spending significantly more and the prices are insanely more expensive. It hasn't worked.

Not sure the other nationalisations have worked either, but I think they can be better regulated. The trains are beyond regulation fixing them from my own experience.

[Hoboh]

Respect the Brexit referendum result and give a meaningful vote on any deal to parliament. EU citizens living in the UK would have their rights guaranteed unilaterally. Theresa May’s Brexit white paper would be replaced with a plan that aims to retain the benefits of the customs union and single market.

Tosh!

Bring parts of the energy industry into public ownership and introduce a local, socially owned energy firm in every area. Also introduce an “immediate emergency price cap” to make sure dual fuel bills stay below £1,000 a year.

introduce a local, socially owned energy firm in every area Eh

Nationalise the railways.

No thanks, the 'brothers' will love that.

Phase out tuition fees.

Put more into training people in work would be better

Make more funds available for childcare and social care.

Tricky one this, you have kids why are they the states responsibility?

Retain the Trident nuclear deterrent. A sentence from earlier drafts saying that a prime minister should be “extremely cautious” about using a weapon that would kill “millions of innocent civilians” has been removed.

So still we have it but won't use it

Place “peace, universal rights and international law” at the heart of foreign policy, while committing to spend 2% of GDP on defence, as required by Nato.

Hamas to lunch then?


Make zero-hours contracts illegal.

Yep, no problems with that

Build 100,000 new council houses per year.

Oh right on greenfield sites then or are you going to build more Skems?

Complete HS2 from London to Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester and Scotland.

Just fcuk off!!! waste of money, time and disruption.

Borrow £250bn to invest in infrastructure but stick to the fiscal credibility rule to balance day-to-day spending. Also raise taxes for people earning more than £80,000 and reverse corporation and inheritance-tax cuts.

To be paid back by raiding the money tree at the bottom of the garden then?

Insulate homes of disabled veterans for free.
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Give them bloody homes first

Extend the right to abortion to Northern Ireland.

Good luck with that

Oppose a second Scottish referendum.

Just let them go

Lower the voting age to 16.

Morons! MP's from 16 as well maybe? debates on Facebook and selfies with the speaker? Stupid fcuking moronic idea.

Employ 1,000 more border guards.

To do what exactly? Labour will be happy for all and asunder to troop in?

End the badger cull, keep the fox-hunting ban and support a ban on wild animals in circuses, as well as protecting bees by banning neonicotinoids.

Vermin, wipe them all out including the hunt protesters.

Extend the Freedom of Information Act to private companies running public services.

Good idea as long as you stop some local authorities hiding behind various excuses

Review universal credit cuts with a view to reversing them.

Mixed views on this, the disabled are treated far worse.

Recognise the benefit that immigrants have brought but introduce fair rules and reasonable management, working with employers that need to recruit from abroad but deterring exploitation.

Free tickets to the UK, roll up, roll up.

[BWFC_Insane]

Re-nationalising the railways is the most sensible thing Corbyn has said. It is an absolute no-brainer, given the total mess and complete lack of value to the taxpayer privatised railways has brought.

Nationalising royal mail and energy companies? Nope.

[Worthy4England]

So you don't know? A bloke that knows how many Romanian's live in Upper Dicker? It's like having our very own Diane Abbott.

I've not looked but some figures I have seen were around the £21bn mark

Rail - the proposal is let the Franschises expire.

Energy - he's not proposing buying any companies that sell to end consumers

Post Office - we still own 30% of. It's sale raised ~£2bn when it was flogged - that's less than 6 weeks worth of Brexit savings...

I'm not convinced by the way, but I'd be interested to see where the £21bn came from. I mean that's nearly a years worth of Brexit savings...

[Worthy4England]

[/b]Build 100,000 new council houses per year.

Oh right on greenfield sites then or are you going to build more Skems?

It does specifically say brownfield first...

In the case of GMCA, for example, they have 15 years currently identified brownfield supply

[Lord Kangana]

On the fracking issue alone I will be voting Labour. Fed up of people being steamrollered in this country for the benefit of small, wealthy, vested interests. If you want a property-owning democracy, don't f*ck about with people's rights to their own property.

That and the Lib Dems haven't a f*cking prayer in our constituency.

[Prufrock]

Thought the energy plan was to set up state companies to compete? Sensible and what I've been banging on about for years!

[Worthy4England]

Thought the energy plan was to set up state companies to compete? Sensible and what I've been banging on about for years!

It is - which would require some start up costs - but isn't the notion that Hoboh seemed to be suggesting that we were going to be buying the existing ones...

[Hoboh]

I told the hard left I earned £140k a year'
They attacked me as one of the few.

I told them I was privately educated,
They attacked me as one of the few.

I told them I spent my childhood in a 7 bedroomed house,
They attacked me as one of the few.

I told them my pension pot was worth considerably more than £1M,
They attacked me as one of the few.

I told them my name was Jeremy Corbyn,
and the hard left said they would vote for me.

[Worthy4England]

You posh bastard.

[Prufrock]

Thought the energy plan was to set up state companies to compete? Sensible and what I've been banging on about for years!

It is - which would require some start up costs - but isn't the notion that Hoboh seemed to be suggesting that we were going to be buying the existing ones...

Yeah think so, which tbf is how it's been somewhat disingenuously reported.

As you say, will cost money, but a different order of magnitude.

[Lord Kangana]

I never knew Jeremy Corbyn grew up in a house. The w*nker.

[Prufrock]

The "extreme caution" on nuclear weapons bit is a prime example of why he's not only useless, but a self-serving wanker. A career politician of a different, more inept kind.

Extreme caution? No shit. You mean unlike the past 70 years in which we've chucked them around like confetti?

It goes without saying, it allows the press to call him a wet lettuce, gains no votes, but crucially allows him to virtue signal to his CND pals that he should stay in his job.

Great.

[Hoboh]

Urrrrgh, it's Eurovision weekend and we have sent some nobody to sing an inane song.

Should have been Johnny Rotten singing Juncker the Skuncker or how many wasps have you chewed today Merkel.

[Dr Hotdog]

Urrrrgh, it's Eurovision weekend and we have sent some nobody to sing an inane song.

Should have been Johnny Rotten singing Juncker the Skuncker or how many wasps have you chewed today Merkel.

Don't worship false idols mate, it's a bad look.

[BWFC_Insane]

Hoboh has previously stated on here his desire to re-nationalise energy, railways and water.

He also said he wouldn't renew trident.

He's even more militant left than Jezza.....