The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

Well yes, and now it's quite likely to be intolerable for even longer because of that f*cking berk.

...and yet again an opinion expressed without a single word aimed at the actual dipsticks driving the intolerance. Bravo, defender of freedom 'Prufrock': you stick with the easy targets.

The dipstick I was aiming at was you saying it's nothing to do with Johnson. It's hardly surprising that reply focused on Johnson rather than the Iranians, is it?

For the record, they're a bunch of c*nts too. Doesn't mean Johnson isn't.

Shock, horror, product of the youth of today thinks everybody are cnuts.

[Prufrock]

As opposed to "never a bad word to say about anyone" Hoboh...?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Well yes, and now it's quite likely to be intolerable for even longer because of that f*cking berk.

...and yet again an opinion expressed without a single word aimed at the actual dipsticks driving the intolerance. Bravo, defender of freedom 'Prufrock': you stick with the easy targets.

The dipstick I was aiming at was you saying it's nothing to do with Johnson. It's hardly surprising that reply focused on Johnson rather than the Iranians, is it?

For the record, they're a bunch of c*nts too. Doesn't mean Johnson isn't.

And neither, if you go back and read through the 'record', did I say Johnson isn't a cxnt. I made a specific statement saying he wasn't responsible for any length of sentence for which N Z-R is subjected to. Which, indeed he isn't. Kind of pisses on your 'signature' doesn't it. You obviously require drawings of some kind to enable you to extract the meaning contained within the sentences...

[Sentences in the latter instance being constructed of words, and not lengths of time behind bars, which was the meaning in the first mention of sentence (within the above sentences)]

[Lost Leopard Spot]

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Today we are warned that No-deal Brexit adds €2bn a year to imported German cars.
Sorry, but that should cut no ice with us. If prices increase by that amount then market forces should dictate that we buy cheaper cars from other sources. In that scenario it isn't the British consumer who will suffer (although there will be less choice for the average cost-conscious Brit consumer), but the EU exporters. And quite a big hit too. Maybe they ought to reconsider the totally blinkered approach they are imposing on the way Brexit talks are going.

[Bruce Rioja]

Today we are warned that No-deal Brexit adds €2bn a year to imported German cars.
Sorry, but that should cut no ice with us. If prices increase by that amount then market forces should dictate that we buy cheaper cars from other sources. In that scenario it isn't the British consumer who will suffer (although there will be less choice for the average cost-conscious Brit consumer), but the EU exporters. And quite a big hit too. Maybe they ought to reconsider the totally blinkered approach they are imposing on the way Brexit talks are going.

Market forces will definitely win if that becomes the case. Plenty of other car companies nicking their ideas and making some very good cars. When I'm away I get to effectively test drive whichever car Avis present me with, and some of the better cars I've driven are Korean. Who'd of thought that a few years ago?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Today we are warned that No-deal Brexit adds €2bn a year to imported German cars.
Sorry, but that should cut no ice with us. If prices increase by that amount then market forces should dictate that we buy cheaper cars from other sources. In that scenario it isn't the British consumer who will suffer (although there will be less choice for the average cost-conscious Brit consumer), but the EU exporters. And quite a big hit too. Maybe they ought to reconsider the totally blinkered approach they are imposing on the way Brexit talks are going.

Market forces will definitely win if that becomes the case. Plenty of other car companies nicking their ideas and making some very good cars. When I'm away I get to effectively test drive whichever car Avis present me with, and some of the better cars I've driven are Korean. Who'd of thought that a few years ago?

There was, although I think it is 'temporarily' suspended, a car built in a collaboration between North & South Korea.
Imagine, a Kim Jung-un special. That'll piss on WTO, the EU, and America's chips.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Trash, tabloid-style, journalism in the Times today, where they accuse 'Russia' (Svetlana and friends) of interfering in our Brexit referendum.
Absolute bullshit, contradicted even by their own words and graphs. They try to make out Svetlana was a bot, but she's still tweeting and mostly on non-political subjects. Also the graph, and the content of the article once sifted of all the shit, states quite categorically that the vast majority (95%) of the tweets occurred After The Fxckin Vote had taken place. That was influencing us was it then? What next, Brits try to 'overthrow Mugabe' because we are commenting on the coup d'bollox after the event? (Mind you, I'd have executed the cxnt by now [Mugabe, that is]. And if I can express that having never visited Zimbabwe how can anybody state that 45,000 tweets from Russians commenting on Brexit isn't normal, rather than state-inspired interference?)

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ and anyway, if I, and fifty thousand others, tweet that Kim Jung-un is a sex god, are you going to believe it?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

My former Halls of Residence's name is next in the firing line. Roscoe & Gladstone.
Maybe it should be renamed. Maybe it shouldn't. I fall firmly within the latter category. But, if the renamers' have their way I'd suggest the Corbyn & Abbott & Costello Halls of Residence as a suitable title.

Furthermore, as the leader of the campaign stated "as former residents of the halls we were horrified to find out we had been living in a building named after such a figure for a whole year without even realising".
Thus:
Did you not know the name of the building you lived in for a whole year, or were you horrified to find out you'd been living in that building and not some other building, or did you not realise that Gladstone referred to, well, Gladstone, or did it take a year before you were horrified to discover that you should have been horrified from day one?
I think Stupid Cxnt applies equally well whichever. I'm somewhat amazed the said individual, given the length of time it takes her to realise shit, ever won a place at university in the first place.

[boltonboris]

Today we are warned that No-deal Brexit adds €2bn a year to imported German cars.
Sorry, but that should cut no ice with us. If prices increase by that amount then market forces should dictate that we buy cheaper cars from other sources. In that scenario it isn't the British consumer who will suffer (although there will be less choice for the average cost-conscious Brit consumer), but the EU exporters. And quite a big hit too. Maybe they ought to reconsider the totally blinkered approach they are imposing on the way Brexit talks are going.

Market forces will definitely win if that becomes the case. Plenty of other car companies nicking their ideas and making some very good cars. When I'm away I get to effectively test drive whichever car Avis present me with, and some of the better cars I've driven are Korean. Who'd of thought that a few years ago?

There was, although I think it is 'temporarily' suspended, a car built in a collaboration between North & South Korea.
Imagine, a Kim Jung-un special. That'll piss on WTO, the EU, and America's chips.

It's a 'neutral' zone on the border and heavily armed either side! Must be a bit unerring for the average joe who goes to work on their first day!

It's been shut since 2016 - The South Koreans who operate it, employ(ed) 90% of the workers in the zone from DPRK, they work the same hours as SOK staff, but their salaries went straight to Kims palace

$90m a year.. No wonder Kim was happy to play along with that!!

[boltonboris]

Edit:

That's $90m per year on 53,000 staff

Jesus Christ - And if he's skimming off the top, I dread to think how desperately poor those workers will be

$1700 per yeas salary. Practically slave labour - Disgusting abuse by both North & South!!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Edit:

That's $90m per year on 53,000 staff

Jesus Christ - And if he's skimming off the top, I dread to think how desperately poor those workers will be

$1700 per yeas salary. Practically slave labour - Disgusting abuse by both North & South!!

Mind you, it's difficult to fully compare a living wage in terms of US dollars with some countries.
A few decades back I was arguing with somebody in Pokhara about trying to barter down a taxi fare from what was basically 2p in English money. The subsequent 'discussion' between my fellow travellers was brought to a halt when I was asked how much money I'd brought with me from England for my 'travels'. It turned out that the amount, £400 was almost the same that the bloke trying to get a cheap taxi had paid for a raisin farm including the wages of four locals that did the harvesting in the first year. An entire farm, with house. The house was a hovel, but nevertheless.

[Prufrock]

My former Halls of Residence's name is next in the firing line. Roscoe & Gladstone.
Maybe it should be renamed. Maybe it shouldn't. I fall firmly within the latter category. But, if the renamers' have their way I'd suggest the Corbyn & Abbott & Costello Halls of Residence as a suitable title.

Furthermore, as the leader of the campaign stated "as former residents of the halls we were horrified to find out we had been living in a building named after such a figure for a whole year without even realising".
Thus:
Did you not know the name of the building you lived in for a whole year, or were you horrified to find out you'd been living in that building and not some other building, or did you not realise that Gladstone referred to, well, Gladstone, or did it take a year before you were horrified to discover that you should have been horrified from day one?
I think Stupid Cxnt applies equally well whichever. I'm somewhat amazed the said individual, given the length of time it takes her to realise shit, ever won a place at university in the first place.

They'll grow out of it. More surprised people keep lapping it up.

When I was at uni we campaigned to stop Nick Griffin going on question time. No-one asks us on f*cking Newsnight.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Sajid Javid now talking bollox:
"In England, of the 7.4 million people who own their own home outright, 4.5 million are 65 or over". - well slap me on the forehead! Of course they fxckin are. Given it takes the average joe/sephine 25 years to pay off the fxckin mortgage most folks who own their own home outright are hardly likely to be under the age of 27 for example.
"last year, the average first-time buyer in London needed a deposit of "£90,000" - well it was £47,000 when me and the missus gave up and moved back up north and bought a house with 0% deposit for £19,000. It still has taken us 25 years to clear the mortgage, but similar options are still available.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Live reporting from BBC News, showing vast crowds in Harare and Bulawayo, with the voiceover talking about 'the people of Zimbabwe coming out in unity' to demand Mugabe stands down!
They really don't get it... The crowds were Ndebele, with a contingent of whites. Not a Shona in sight. Mugabe is Shona. Shona make up 80% of the country. Mugabe once set the Shona on the Ndebele and more than 20,000 Ndebele were murdered by his Shona forces. Mugabe has also driven a programme of pure hate and land grabs against white farmers. The biggest irony of all was that the BBC's commentator was an Irishman! You'd have thought he'd have a vague idea of what sectarianism means.

[Harry Genshaw]

^ the Beeb seem to be suggesting that he's lost support of those normally loyal to him too? Mainly the war veterans who will be predominantly Shona?

If he finally steps down, and I really hope he does, the new incumbent will have a big job on his hands

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ the Beeb seem to be suggesting that he's lost support of those normally loyal to him too? Mainly the war veterans who will be predominantly Shona?

If he finally steps down, and I really hope he does, the new incumbent will have a big job on his hands

Oh yes, there's no doubt that the old generation war veterans, and the Mnangagwa faction of Zanu PF have turned on him and led the revolt. No doubt at all. All of those are Shona. It's their actions that enabled the Ndebele and whites to come out and demonstrate, because without their 'approval' they'd have been shit scared to even express a mild opinion on it. I was just observing the appalling news service the BBC were serving up, conflating two things into one, and then compounding the error.
If Mnangagwa becomes President (which is almost certain) he'll make Mugabe look like a saint. Not that Grace Mugabe should ever have had the job, which she 100% would have if the armed forces hadn't stepped in.
A Right Fxcking Mess.

[malcd1]

^ the Beeb seem to be suggesting that he's lost support of those normally loyal to him too? Mainly the war veterans who will be predominantly Shona?

If he finally steps down, and I really hope he does, the new incumbent will have a big job on his hands

Oh yes, there's no doubt that the old generation war veterans, and the Mnangagwa faction of Zanu PF have turned on him and led the revolt. No doubt at all. All of those are Shona. It's their actions that enabled the Ndebele and whites to come out and demonstrate, because without their 'approval' they'd have been shit scared to even express a mild opinion on it. I was just observing the appalling news service the BBC were serving up, conflating two things into one, and then compounding the error.
If Mnangagwa becomes President (which is almost certain) he'll make Mugabe look like a saint. Not that Grace Mugabe should ever have had the job, which she 100% would have if the armed forces hadn't stepped in.
A Right Fxcking Mess.

You are correct. Mnangagwa has served in Mugabe government for nearly 40 years and has been his right hand man for all of that time. Things will not change one bit. Corruption will be rife and the people will still be suffering.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Note to History: Mnangagwa is a homicidal, vicious, anti-democratic, racist cxxt. He's not the new hero that he's been made out to be, he's simply a continuation of the old failed order.