The Politics Thread

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Just seen a video of Barack Obama stating that he considers Jerusalem the capital of Israel. You know the liberal, lovely bloke before the current crackpot?

Fxck me sideways. All we need next is the Pope, the Aga Khan, and Donald Tusk for world peace to prevail.

But then again, you'd need the Muslims in Beirut, Cairo, Astana, and every other Muslim majority shithole to stop violently protesting. Not a hope in hell.

And Rabat, and Istanbul...

[Hoboh]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

[BWFC_Insane]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

[Hoboh]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

[BWFC_Insane]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

I'm not mocking Thatcher. Though I think she was the worst thing to happen to this country politically for a long time - she was good at what she did.

I just don't think that is what people want anymore....its all about "connection" now. Even mentalist Trump, connected with people more than Hilary in the key states. Its why he won. You don't win by being aloof anymore. May realised this and has since desperately tried to mimic Cameron's approach.

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

[Hoboh]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

I'm not mocking Thatcher. Though I think she was the worst thing to happen to this country politically for a long time - she was good at what she did.

I just don't think that is what people want anymore....its all about "connection" now. Even mentalist Trump, connected with people more than Hilary in the key states. Its why he won. You don't win by being aloof anymore. May realised this and has since desperately tried to mimic Cameron's approach.

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

When dealing with Merkel, Drunker and the two French toads, being 'bloody minded' is the basic minimum, requirement.

[TANGODANCER]

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

Step Forth Dame Edna Everage ...

[BWFC_Insane]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

I'm not mocking Thatcher. Though I think she was the worst thing to happen to this country politically for a long time - she was good at what she did.

I just don't think that is what people want anymore....its all about "connection" now. Even mentalist Trump, connected with people more than Hilary in the key states. Its why he won. You don't win by being aloof anymore. May realised this and has since desperately tried to mimic Cameron's approach.

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

When dealing with Merkel, Drunker and the two French toads, being 'bloody minded' is the basic minimum, requirement.

Nah. Its actually the worst way to go. We're in the hole, partly because May and Davis called it wrong at the start. Threats and grandstanding is not the way to achieve things. It simply raises the stakes and puts everyone's backs up.

We should have been playing on what we offer not what we threaten to do.

Basic rule of serious negotiating is to always go in with positive offers never go in with negative or threatening ones.

[Hoboh]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

I'm not mocking Thatcher. Though I think she was the worst thing to happen to this country politically for a long time - she was good at what she did.

I just don't think that is what people want anymore....its all about "connection" now. Even mentalist Trump, connected with people more than Hilary in the key states. Its why he won. You don't win by being aloof anymore. May realised this and has since desperately tried to mimic Cameron's approach.

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

When dealing with Merkel, Drunker and the two French toads, being 'bloody minded' is the basic minimum, requirement.

Nah. Its actually the worst way to go. We're in the hole, partly because May and Davis called it wrong at the start. Threats and grandstanding is not the way to achieve things. It simply raises the stakes and puts everyone's backs up.

We should have been playing on what we offer not what we threaten to do.

Basic rule of serious negotiating is to always go in with positive offers never go in with negative or threatening ones.

Whoa there bald eagle! Just who was doing all the threatening and grandstanding?
Most of the drivel was spouted by the Frenchie and drunker along with Shultz, the only reasonable one was the other guy whose name escapes me, why the hell do you think some of us got our backs up? No attempt to 'negotiate' more punish for leaving, there and then we should have played hardball until sense prevailed. You seem to be firmly in the camp of wimps who think we had to go along with everything the EU demanded without question, well sorry there are a lot of areas we could have dug in which would have an adverse effect on them, instead we are chucking money you socialist types are freely spending to prop up the European Soviet state.

[boltonboris]

The feck* were spending hundreds of thousands of tax payers money to fly out 'negotiators' under strict instructions to sit in absolute silence.

They were being utter cvnts knowing that millions in the UK would lap it up and applaud them so they can say "I told you so"

[BWFC_Insane]

You know, the Thatcher imposter might just about convince me to vote for Commie Corbyn and Marxist McDonnell, after all, they will all cost us a fortune, it is getting a question under whom, with splash the cash, would I benefit the most before this country slides into oblivion?
Cannot help but hope the Irish need bailing out again at some point and we tell them to swivel.

I'm not sure she's trying to be Thatcher. I think she's trying to be David Cameron...because I think she tried Thatcher, realised everyone has moved on and Tory success came from Cameron pretending to be cuddly and nice. So now she's trying that.

She'd try and copy Mugabe if she thought it'd win her votes....

It's not about what she is trying to be, more like what some idiots in the Tory rank and file thought she was.
We are crying out for a strong, bloody minded leader and we get a wet lettuce who was a total abject failure in her last post, much the same as that Rudd woman will turn out to be.
Oh and you shouldn't mock Thatcher with all the 'successful' leftie leaders you have had leading the British Marxist party!

I'm not mocking Thatcher. Though I think she was the worst thing to happen to this country politically for a long time - she was good at what she did.

I just don't think that is what people want anymore....its all about "connection" now. Even mentalist Trump, connected with people more than Hilary in the key states. Its why he won. You don't win by being aloof anymore. May realised this and has since desperately tried to mimic Cameron's approach.

I don't think we need bloody-minded either, we just need someone who is competent and good and has people at heart rather than their own political ends. Ideally, for me, someone sensible and pragmatic whilst also wanting to address the huge economic and social inequalities that continue to be our most pressing issue.

When dealing with Merkel, Drunker and the two French toads, being 'bloody minded' is the basic minimum, requirement.

Nah. Its actually the worst way to go. We're in the hole, partly because May and Davis called it wrong at the start. Threats and grandstanding is not the way to achieve things. It simply raises the stakes and puts everyone's backs up.

We should have been playing on what we offer not what we threaten to do.

Basic rule of serious negotiating is to always go in with positive offers never go in with negative or threatening ones.

Whoa there bald eagle! Just who was doing all the threatening and grandstanding?
Most of the drivel was spouted by the Frenchie and drunker along with Shultz, the only reasonable one was the other guy whose name escapes me, why the hell do you think some of us got our backs up? No attempt to 'negotiate' more punish for leaving, there and then we should have played hardball until sense prevailed. You seem to be firmly in the camp of wimps who think we had to go along with everything the EU demanded without question, well sorry there are a lot of areas we could have dug in which would have an adverse effect on them, instead we are chucking money you socialist types are freely spending to prop up the European Soviet state.

I'm in the camp of someone professionally trained to negotiate, I've been on every course good and bad there is. And done it for a living.

I was shocked when we launched off with the "low regulation tax haven" threat right at the start. It was absolutely a textbook terrible move. We did exactly the wrong thing.

Its not about socialism, or whether you like or dislike the EU, its simply down to having a clue what you're doing. We put ourselves right against the wall there and the subsequent election loaded the gun.

[TANGODANCER]

The feck were spending hundreds of thousands of tax payers money to fly out 'negotiators' under strict instructions to sit in absolute silence.

They were being utter cvnts knowing that millions in the UK would lap it up and applaud them so they can say "I told you so"

What amazes me is anybody being actually surprised at our government being involved in a major fiasco (polite description) . of any sort. They've been doing that internally and externally since fish and chips were elevenpence and Bessie Braddock was orating, that I know of. Historically, from day one since Parliament was formed. What else is new?..

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Forget Brexit, the real end of the European superstate has just landed. Catalan Separatists 47.6%; Spanish Unionists 43.5%.

[Hoboh]

Just for doom monger extreme and his 1% GDP deficit, was it made up by this lot by any chance?

Britain's economy is now predicted to overtake France's in 2020 as experts admitted they had been too gloomy over Brexit.
The Centre for Economics and Business Research (CEBR) had claimed the economy would slow down because of a drop in consumer spending and investment.
But last night the think-tank admitted it had got this wrong, saying: 'In practice this has not happened.'
Its economists accepted the fears they expressed last year that Brexit would leave the UK behind the French economy for five years were exaggerated.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Given it was brexit that caused France's economy to overtake ours, and given the promises made by the brexiteers I'm fully expecting us to charge into 2nd place by 2022.

[Hoboh]

Given it was brexit that caused France's economy to overtake ours, and given the promises made by the brexiteers I'm fully expecting us to charge into 2nd place by 2022.

That above your application for BWFCi's job?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Given it was brexit that caused France's economy to overtake ours, and given the promises made by the brexiteers I'm fully expecting us to charge into 2nd place by 2022.

That above your application for BWFCi's job?

Nah, just pointing out that France only overtook us because of Brexit. One would hope the very least we'd move back up. That said I'm expecting great things now we're great again.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Given it was brexit that caused France's economy to overtake ours, and given the promises made by the brexiteers I'm fully expecting us to charge into 2nd place by 2022.

That above your application for BWFCi's job?

Nah, just pointing out that France only overtook us because of Brexit. One would hope the very least we'd move back up. That said I'm expecting great things now we're great again.

That's Americuh, sir.
However, despite Trump being a bit of a tosspot politico-wise, he seems to have hit at least five nails on their heads with his Americuh Foist Tax Cuits on an economic/business-wise agenda.
I think you'll find that the UK will be spiffin despite the bollox surrounding Brexit.
You have,however, fermented in my over eager imagination the need to make Britain Great again... We need to conquer a new E-mpire. Has dot.abudhabi been taken yet?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Given it was brexit that caused France's economy to overtake ours, and given the promises made by the brexiteers I'm fully expecting us to charge into 2nd place by 2022.

That above your application for BWFCi's job?

Nah, just pointing out that France only overtook us because of Brexit. One would hope the very least we'd move back up. That said I'm expecting great things now we're great again.

That's Americuh, sir.
However, despite Trump being a bit of a tosspot politico-wise, he seems to have hit at least five nails on their heads with his Americuh Foist Tax Cuits on an economic/business-wise agenda.
I think you'll find that the UK will be spiffin despite the bollox surrounding Brexit.
You have,however, fermented in my over eager imagination the need to make Britain Great again... We need to conquer a new E-mpire. Has dot.abudhabi been taken yet?

I've definitely heard words (possibly differently assembled) to claim we've got imminent glory ahead. Can't help with AD I'm afraid, I'm in the process of plotting an escape in the coming months

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Ayatollah Corbyn. Idealogical poodle of Iran and Hezbollah, anti-Zionist, reluctant persecutor of anti-semites in his own party.
Anybody want to defend him?