The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017
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An horrific window which exposes Ken's motives if there were any lingering doubts ie sell the club on for a nice profit without putting a penny of his own money in.
He's been here nearly two years, selling Holding, Madine and Clough for £11 - £12 million, and not invested one pence of this in transfer fees.
From having a striker in the form of his life we now have two failures from the Nottingham Forest reserves and the garbage Wilbraham as the striking pool, with only Wilbraham available for the last game of the season!
All this on 15,000 average crowds and a nice £4million Tv cheque for the season
Pathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
He's been here nearly two years, selling Holding, Madine and Clough for £11 - £12 million, and not invested one pence of this in transfer fees.
From having a striker in the form of his life we now have two failures from the Nottingham Forest reserves and the garbage Wilbraham as the striking pool, with only Wilbraham available for the last game of the season!
All this on 15,000 average crowds and a nice £4million Tv cheque for the season
Pathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
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Well, tiny matter I know, but there's the matter of us actually having a club to support at all.Martin_Cruise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 amPathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
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The club loses lots of money each year. Those fees are keeping the lights on. KA isn't putting and most likely can't put his own money in to make up shortfalls. Every other club in this league except us and Burton, has rich benefactors and/or parachute payments. These are the hard facts of our life at this moment.Martin_Cruise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 amAn horrific window which exposes Ken's motives if there were any lingering doubts ie sell the club on for a nice profit without putting a penny of his own money in.
He's been here nearly two years, selling Holding, Madine and Clough for £11 - £12 million, and not invested one pence of this in transfer fees.
From having a striker in the form of his life we now have two failures from the Nottingham Forest reserves and the garbage Wilbraham as the striking pool, with only Wilbraham available for the last game of the season!
All this on 15,000 average crowds and a nice £4million Tv cheque for the season
Pathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
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Well, either the football is about to get better to watch or we're going down!!
And loanees come in twos.
We've added goals in the attacking positions but not sure we can ever get the ball in their half.
Sentimentally chuffed Zach is coming back, and think he improves the XI, but not by as much as losing Nadine weakens it. Lot of pressure on Walker.
Flanagan is a weird one. Just not a priority, but he's class. And a cnut.
And Harry Wilson I once sold for us for £35m on Football Manager, after a successful loan, so that's good.
And loanees come in twos.
We've added goals in the attacking positions but not sure we can ever get the ball in their half.
Sentimentally chuffed Zach is coming back, and think he improves the XI, but not by as much as losing Nadine weakens it. Lot of pressure on Walker.
Flanagan is a weird one. Just not a priority, but he's class. And a cnut.
And Harry Wilson I once sold for us for £35m on Football Manager, after a successful loan, so that's good.
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Fake news, Eddie Davies would never have had the balls to let the club go under.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:43 amWell, tiny matter I know, but there's the matter of us actually having a club to support at all.Martin_Cruise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 amPathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
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We'd have been fecked without Ken. Like it or lump it, he's the only show in town right now.
Will be interesting to see how we line up Friday. We've been grinding out points at home being solid defensively and nicking the odd goal. No reason we can't be just as solid at the back and if we'll be anything up front we'll be unpredictable!
Will be interesting to see how we line up Friday. We've been grinding out points at home being solid defensively and nicking the odd goal. No reason we can't be just as solid at the back and if we'll be anything up front we'll be unpredictable!
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My take is that we have weakened the first xi (which is already bottom 3) but improved the squad (with the exception of centre mid).
I hope we got enough for Madine to pay Blu Marble. Get that loan and interest off our backs and we are in a much stronger position as a club. No moonman can argue that’s not a good thing. It really is up to Marc Iles to do his job now to find out - not wait for next years accounts!
I can’t fathom what team Parky will put out. Revert to type and play that stump Wilbraham? Surely not?? So change the system...? We’ll need a few games to settle and we don’t really have that because of the vast amount of wins we have turned to draws. I hope we have enough to finish above 3 others but Incan’t see it.
Shame they couldn’t sign that lad from Ipswich. He would have been a reasonable replacement and a target man option.
Still, looking forward to seeing Clough/Ameobi/Vela link up again.
I hope we got enough for Madine to pay Blu Marble. Get that loan and interest off our backs and we are in a much stronger position as a club. No moonman can argue that’s not a good thing. It really is up to Marc Iles to do his job now to find out - not wait for next years accounts!
I can’t fathom what team Parky will put out. Revert to type and play that stump Wilbraham? Surely not?? So change the system...? We’ll need a few games to settle and we don’t really have that because of the vast amount of wins we have turned to draws. I hope we have enough to finish above 3 others but Incan’t see it.
Shame they couldn’t sign that lad from Ipswich. He would have been a reasonable replacement and a target man option.
Still, looking forward to seeing Clough/Ameobi/Vela link up again.
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Kramer been released by Feyenoord, can technically sign him if he becomes interested 

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Well, contrary to popular opinion I'm quite pleased with our dealings.
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I feel so sorry for Parky. Every transfer window he has a team doing fairly well. (Our PPG since the first 12 games this season has us midtable and gives us a real chance). Then every single window either his team or his transfer plans are ripped apart and he's left to pick up the pieces with whatever scraps he's thrown by the owner.
He's now got to get a tune out of players that two Forest managers haven't been able to manage. I'm sure he'll have a good go, but I really am struggling to see us hitting our stride early enough and I also think there are massive questions over the loss of a physical, mobile, goalscoring striker and replacing him with bit part "not really striker" players. Huge, huge questions and I think most managers in the world would be seriously challenged trying to answer them.
We got away trying to rebuild last January (after losing Sammi and Zach). But lets not forget it took a while to click. And then relied on Morais showing form he never has managed till now. I'm struggling, to see how we're going to get out of this one.
Parky will inevitably take the blame from the renta-mob brigade who are too stupid to see what is happening. If Karanka (who is a decent manager IMHO) didn't want Clough and Walker, why will they suddenly be ample replacement for a player Warnock (another detestable bloke but very decent manager) has said was his absolute 1st choice all window.
None of it stacks up, other than Ken's bought the club for a pound, has stuck absolutely nothing into it and if he ever sells us will make a very nice, tidy profit at the expense of the fans who turn up week in week out.
Iles has said Parky's demeanour suggests he was assured Madine wouldn't be sold.
He's now got to get a tune out of players that two Forest managers haven't been able to manage. I'm sure he'll have a good go, but I really am struggling to see us hitting our stride early enough and I also think there are massive questions over the loss of a physical, mobile, goalscoring striker and replacing him with bit part "not really striker" players. Huge, huge questions and I think most managers in the world would be seriously challenged trying to answer them.
We got away trying to rebuild last January (after losing Sammi and Zach). But lets not forget it took a while to click. And then relied on Morais showing form he never has managed till now. I'm struggling, to see how we're going to get out of this one.
Parky will inevitably take the blame from the renta-mob brigade who are too stupid to see what is happening. If Karanka (who is a decent manager IMHO) didn't want Clough and Walker, why will they suddenly be ample replacement for a player Warnock (another detestable bloke but very decent manager) has said was his absolute 1st choice all window.
None of it stacks up, other than Ken's bought the club for a pound, has stuck absolutely nothing into it and if he ever sells us will make a very nice, tidy profit at the expense of the fans who turn up week in week out.
Iles has said Parky's demeanour suggests he was assured Madine wouldn't be sold.
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That's intriguing. Other clubs were interested. Now he's unemployed he might fancy it more. And we could (if we choose) offer him a decent wage on a six-month contract, which would be mutually beneficial.
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Then either Iles or Parky is a dick if either believed that.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:23 amIles has said Parky's demeanour suggests he was assured Madine wouldn't be sold.
Sold him at the top of his stock. Well done Ken. He'll go on to become the next Jutzewic
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Some very basic research. Looks pretty good. Decent scoring record, at a level similar to playing for Celtic or Rangers in Scotland. Would mean Parky can still play in his favoured target man style. I say yesDave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:25 amThat's intriguing. Other clubs were interested. Now he's unemployed he might fancy it more. And we could (if we choose) offer him a decent wage on a six-month contract, which would be mutually beneficial.

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We shall see. Nixon has also tweeted that Parky is number 2 on his list of deadline day sympathies behind Mahrez.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:29 amThen either Iles or Parky is a dick if either believed that.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:23 amIles has said Parky's demeanour suggests he was assured Madine wouldn't be sold.
Sold him at the top of his stock. Well done Ken. He'll go on to become the next Jutzewic
As Nixon says, he worked to turn Madine into a striker in demand at this level. Then he's sold at the last minute and Parky doesn't get a say on that or on who comes in really.
We can judge at the end of the season how much of a success or otherwise this all is.
Also Nixon suggesting the fee is nothing like the 6M that has been reported.
I feel for Parky. To continually have to patch things together with short term measures not even of your own choosing. He's not had a penny to spend. Your namesake would have been offski long before this, under these circumstances. As would Big Sam.
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Surely we can’t sign Kramer if he wasn’t realeased before the end of the transfer window?
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I'm with Bruce. Madine's form has lasted longer than I thought it would, so fair play to the fella. That said, I had my doubts it would continue all season. It's rare a player manages to stay at peak performance for a full season. We now have an opportunity to play differently...though whether we will try to or achieve it is another matter.
Whatever, we need to approach the rest of the season as an opportunity and cut the defeatist shite. Parky has proven he can adapt the team in these circumstances and there should be a good number of players relishing the opportunity. I've faith that Parky can get them playing effectively in a different style, I just hope he can do it quickly...
Whatever, we need to approach the rest of the season as an opportunity and cut the defeatist shite. Parky has proven he can adapt the team in these circumstances and there should be a good number of players relishing the opportunity. I've faith that Parky can get them playing effectively in a different style, I just hope he can do it quickly...
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I'm going to assume he was or the player wouldn't have agreed to being released.officer_dibble wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:46 amSurely we can’t sign Kramer if he wasn’t realeased before the end of the transfer window?
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Err, no, no he can't actually. If he turns out to play out of his skin week in week out then he will be a decent signing. None of us has a crystal ball so we don't know how it will pan out, so lets give the guy a chance shall we?
I know he's had a rather "chequered" past - which is not something I am impressed with at all - but so has Madine don't forget, and reading posts on here you would think he was the best thing that ever happened to us. Don't forget Diouff was hardly a model citizen, but noone minded us having him on board, and there are probably countless others of a similar ilk.
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Please read my earlier post of yesterday. We all know Ken's motives - which are as you state - he clearly wants to turn a tidy profit by turning us round and selling. Why should he put his own money in - he's under no obligation to. Remember, nobody else was interested when we were about to go to the wall a couple of years ago apart from Deano - who inadvertently made things worse for us.Martin_Cruise wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:38 amAn horrific window which exposes Ken's motives if there were any lingering doubts ie sell the club on for a nice profit without putting a penny of his own money in.
He's been here nearly two years, selling Holding, Madine and Clough for £11 - £12 million, and not invested one pence of this in transfer fees.
From having a striker in the form of his life we now have two failures from the Nottingham Forest reserves and the garbage Wilbraham as the striking pool, with only Wilbraham available for the last game of the season!
All this on 15,000 average crowds and a nice £4million Tv cheque for the season
Pathetic and disgraceful, there's nothing for BWFC fans with this fella owning the club
For those on here who keep blaming Ken for where we are - what are the alternatives - I seem to have missed where you suggest something better for the club in amongst the criticism??
The facts are that we are a financial basket case. We all suspect Ken's motives are personal, but the outcome he wants aligns with what we want in the short term. There is no alternative. No one else wants to invest, and to be honest, Ken appears to at least be trying to sort out the mess hi inherited. As I have said previously: we are a business on the verge of going bust and we have/had some very saleable assets - what else did you want Ken to do other than cash in on these and use the cash to keep the business afloat?
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That's to suggest that Parky didn't know what he was letting himself in for, and I'm not having that for one minute. Of course a club in our position is going to sell on a player whose stock has gone from absolute zero to a tasty amount.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:36 amI feel for Parky. To continually have to patch things together with short term measures not even of your own choosing. He's not had a penny to spend. Your namesake would have been offski long before this, under these circumstances. As would Big Sam.
You've no idea as to whether Rioch or Allardyce would've accepted the challenge that Parkison chose to, so to try and make some comparison under completely different sets of circumstances is wholly moot, no?
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