European Second Referendum

[Lost Leopard Spot]

It doesn't matter who you vote for, but if (with the graphics removed) you can tell me who this cartoon relates to, May or Corbyn, you're a fxcking genius:
At the dispatch box in parliament a leader of their party addresses parliament addressing the opposite benches-
Panel 1: "that Party's split down the middle"
Panel 2: "Divided on Brexit!"
Panel 3: "and with a completely useless leader!"
Panel 4: *looks round to own party members clutching heads*

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Anyway.... No more (to universal applause).
Not another fxcking word from me until March 30th, by which time we'll be out of the EU, or my vote has been stitched up

[Dujon]

Sorry, Spotty, but whatever happens your vote cannot be 'stitched up'. Surely you remember that a plebiscite is not binding?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Sorry, Spotty, but whatever happens your vote cannot be 'stitched up'. Surely you remember that a plebiscite is not binding?

Depends on how much of a classicist one is. Being antipodean you have every right to be contrary...
However: the plebescite originated in the Roman Republic, and the word is derived from the Latin Plebs (common people) and Scitum (decree, from sciscere, to vote), and the plebiscite was used to describe laws enacted by the Concilium Plebis, the principal assembly of the ancient Roman Republic, which functioned as a legislative assembly, through which the plebeians (commoners) could pass laws, elect magistrates, and try judicial cases. The plebescite was the only binding mechanism within the Republic, trumping Senatorial, Consular and Dictatorial law.
As Frankie Howard would say if still alive: feck the Patricians. And as Mr Speaker Bercow should put it but doesn't: The Plebs to the right 17 million, the Patricians to the left 16 million. The Plebs have it, The Plebs Have it... [unlock].

Like a politician, I promised not another word on the subject, and I've only responded to your good self, Dujon, in the interests of clearing up your woolly statement. So I've kept my word.
Shtum from now on

[Hoboh]

Please, please tell me whoever it was raving about this clown Keir Starmer you were either joking or hung over.

He'd make Labour more unelectable than Corbyn, reminds one of slime-ball in chief Blair..

[BWFC_Insane]

Please, please tell me whoever it was raving about this clown Keir Starmer you were either joking or hung over.

He'd make Labour more unelectable than Corbyn, reminds one of slime-ball in chief Blair..

I will say this....

A Corbyn led Labour will never see my vote.

A Starmer led one possibly will.

Starmer is hamstrung by Corybn's utter nonsense.

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have backed Brexit.

If they oppose Brexit they are mid to high 30's. Starmer knows this. Corbyn is just burying his head in the sand.

[Enoch]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

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Socialist eh!

[BWFC_Insane]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Socialist eh!

Thanks for the selective quoting! However, as I will outline below - nowhere in their manifesto does it say they support TM's Brexit vision - quite the opposite in fact.

Their manifesto laid out a very different Brexit to what is currently on the table. And your selective quoting misses out

We will end Theresa May’s reckless approach to Brexit, and seek to unite the country around a Brexit deal that works for every community in Britain..... fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option.......

Their position is entirely consistent with their manifesto pledge. Down to every detail. What isn't outlined however, in a manifesto, is what you'll do as opposition should the government flounder...and here is the rub!

Following the GE defeat Corbyn took their Brexit policy to the membership at their conference and their members were misled. Their members are now leaving the party in their droves. They mistakenly believed that Corbyn would in this scenario offer a second vote.

https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/20/labour-l ... e-8365498/

See, when Corbyn said that they would not support a Brexit that didn't meet their 6 tests and that if they couldn't force a GE in that scenario, they'd move onto other options, the belief was he'd support a 2nd referendum. That is what they feel they were promised.

That is what the members have voted for. That is what they want.

[Enoch]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

[BWFC_Insane]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

Ok let me ask you a question:

Their manifesto says "we respect the result of the referendum" but "we intend to reject May's Brexit deal".

The party are currently doing that.

But that isn't what the majority of their membership want - and fell that the subsequent conference that set policy as an OPPOSITION was something that so far seemingly isn't happening.

[Hoboh]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

Ok let me ask you a question:

Their manifesto says "we respect the result of the referendum" but "we intend to reject May's Brexit deal".

The party are currently doing that.

But that isn't what the majority of their membership want - and fell that the subsequent conference that set policy as an OPPOSITION was something that so far seemingly isn't happening.

Nor is staying in the EU what the majority of those who voted in the referendum want, wriggle away.

[BWFC_Insane]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

Ok let me ask you a question:

Their manifesto says "we respect the result of the referendum" but "we intend to reject May's Brexit deal".

The party are currently doing that.

But that isn't what the majority of their membership want - and fell that the subsequent conference that set policy as an OPPOSITION was something that so far seemingly isn't happening.

Nor is staying in the EU what the majority of those who voted in the referendum want, wriggle away.

But 70% of Labour voters in the last election want that...so they should be representing their vote. If not, Corbyn should at least be up front and honest....

[Hoboh]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

Ok let me ask you a question:

Their manifesto says "we respect the result of the referendum" but "we intend to reject May's Brexit deal".

The party are currently doing that.

But that isn't what the majority of their membership want - and fell that the subsequent conference that set policy as an OPPOSITION was something that so far seemingly isn't happening.

Nor is staying in the EU what the majority of those who voted in the referendum want, wriggle away.

But 70% of Labour voters in the last election want that...so they should be representing their vote. If not, Corbyn should at least be up front and honest....

You mean 70% of Labour in London and the odd outpost wanted, far from just conservative constituency's that voted leave, but hey lets change history again to suit the agenda.

[BWFC_Insane]

Various polls suggest Labour support will plummet to 22% in a national GE if they are seen to have honoured their manifesto commitment.

Labour accepts the referendum result

THE LABOUR PARTY MANIFESTO 2017

.

Wriggling socialists eh!

Ok let me ask you a question:

Their manifesto says "we respect the result of the referendum" but "we intend to reject May's Brexit deal".

The party are currently doing that.

But that isn't what the majority of their membership want - and fell that the subsequent conference that set policy as an OPPOSITION was something that so far seemingly isn't happening.

Nor is staying in the EU what the majority of those who voted in the referendum want, wriggle away.

But 70% of Labour voters in the last election want that...so they should be representing their vote. If not, Corbyn should at least be up front and honest....

You mean 70% of Labour in London and the odd outpost wanted, far from just conservative constituency's that voted leave, but hey lets change history again to suit the agenda.

No. 70% of Labour voters...total.

We're talking the people that voted Labour. Of course some Labour constituencies voted leave. But not everyone in a Labour constituency votes Labour. Not everyone votes at a GE.

The majority of the Labour vote wants to remain.

[Worthy4England]

Every day that brings us closer to £50m a week for the NHS is good by me. Not long to go now, so I'm in win/win land.

The notion that any of the main proponents of Leave were backing "No Deal" at the time of the vote are complete fabrications, fake news and bollocks to boot. Made up after the event.

Johnson was backing everything except no-deal and landed on Canada which must've come as a bit of a shock to them. Fox said it would be the easiest deal in history so certainly not a no-leave. Farage kept banging on about how rich Norway was (and Switzerland or Iceland) and espousing that at a great option. No point trying to work out which horse Gove was backing - he'll change his mind again tomorrow. Hannan said no one was threatening our place in the single market.

Little point being bothered with Corbyn's point of view. He's not delivering it (and nor) in my opinion will he ever be in a position to even try.

[BWFC_Insane]

Every day that brings us closer to £50m a week for the NHS is good by me. Not long to go now, so I'm in win/win land.

The notion that any of the main proponents of Leave were backing "No Deal" at the time of the vote are complete fabrications, fake news and bollocks to boot. Made up after the event.

Johnson was backing everything except no-deal and landed on Canada which must've come as a bit of a shock to them. Fox said it would be the easiest deal in history so certainly not a no-leave. Farage kept banging on about how rich Norway was (and Switzerland or Iceland) and espousing that at a great option. No point trying to work out which horse Gove was backing - he'll change his mind again tomorrow. Hannan said no one was threatening our place in the single market.

Little point being bothered with Corbyn's point of view. He's not delivering it (and nor) in my opinion will he ever be in a position to even try.

But May's told us emphatically what everyone voted for. Her red lines. If we break them then we are not delivering what people voted for.

Though one might look to polls that suggest support for her deal at best stands at 27%. So not exactly an emphatic or ringing endorsement of her red lines.

I find it embarrassing that Brexiteers now say "everyone knew that leaving meant leaving the SM and CU" yet during the campaign, constantly referenced countries in either the CU or SM as examples to "follow".

When you say Gove might "change his mind again" you mean if he gets a sniff at the PM's job he might suddenly advocate whatever scenario he thinks will get him there? Aye.

[Hoboh]

Every day that brings us closer to £50m a week for the NHS is good by me. Not long to go now, so I'm in win/win land.

The notion that any of the main proponents of Leave were backing "No Deal" at the time of the vote are complete fabrications, fake news and bollocks to boot. Made up after the event.

Johnson was backing everything except no-deal and landed on Canada which must've come as a bit of a shock to them. Fox said it would be the easiest deal in history so certainly not a no-leave. Farage kept banging on about how rich Norway was (and Switzerland or Iceland) and espousing that at a great option. No point trying to work out which horse Gove was backing - he'll change his mind again tomorrow. Hannan said no one was threatening our place in the single market.

Little point being bothered with Corbyn's point of view. He's not delivering it (and nor) in my opinion will he ever be in a position to even try.

But May's told us emphatically what everyone voted for. Her red lines. If we break them then we are not delivering what people voted for.

Though one might look to polls that suggest support for her deal at best stands at 27%. So not exactly an emphatic or ringing endorsement of her red lines.

I find it embarrassing that Brexiteers now say "everyone knew that leaving meant leaving the SM and CU" yet during the campaign, constantly referenced countries in either the CU or SM as examples to "follow".

When you say Gove might "change his mind again" you mean if he gets a sniff at the PM's job he might suddenly advocate whatever scenario he thinks will get him there? Aye.

Leave meant one thing, leave, it's not that hard.

Oh how I wish these so called democratic wailing MP's would actually tell the people the truth that all they want is to remain prisoners of the EU no mater what it takes and it has fcuk all to do with democracy and taking charge.
Much as I dislike May's deal I'd vote for it just to spite the spineless, self centred excuses for human beings that love Merkel and little frog face, revolution and the gallows for the lot of them.

[BWFC_Insane]

Every day that brings us closer to £50m a week for the NHS is good by me. Not long to go now, so I'm in win/win land.

The notion that any of the main proponents of Leave were backing "No Deal" at the time of the vote are complete fabrications, fake news and bollocks to boot. Made up after the event.

Johnson was backing everything except no-deal and landed on Canada which must've come as a bit of a shock to them. Fox said it would be the easiest deal in history so certainly not a no-leave. Farage kept banging on about how rich Norway was (and Switzerland or Iceland) and espousing that at a great option. No point trying to work out which horse Gove was backing - he'll change his mind again tomorrow. Hannan said no one was threatening our place in the single market.

Little point being bothered with Corbyn's point of view. He's not delivering it (and nor) in my opinion will he ever be in a position to even try.

But May's told us emphatically what everyone voted for. Her red lines. If we break them then we are not delivering what people voted for.

Though one might look to polls that suggest support for her deal at best stands at 27%. So not exactly an emphatic or ringing endorsement of her red lines.

I find it embarrassing that Brexiteers now say "everyone knew that leaving meant leaving the SM and CU" yet during the campaign, constantly referenced countries in either the CU or SM as examples to "follow".

When you say Gove might "change his mind again" you mean if he gets a sniff at the PM's job he might suddenly advocate whatever scenario he thinks will get him there? Aye.

Leave meant one thing, leave, it's not that hard.

Oh how I wish these so called democratic wailing MP's would actually tell the people the truth that all they want is to remain prisoners of the EU no mater what it takes and it has fcuk all to do with democracy and taking charge.
Much as I dislike May's deal I'd vote for it just to spite the spineless, self centred excuses for human beings that love Merkel and little frog face, revolution and the gallows for the lot of them.

Ok. So we become like Norway (which was often a part of the Brexiteer argument) then. We've left. I think most people on both sides should be happy with that?

[Hoboh]

Every day that brings us closer to £50m a week for the NHS is good by me. Not long to go now, so I'm in win/win land.

The notion that any of the main proponents of Leave were backing "No Deal" at the time of the vote are complete fabrications, fake news and bollocks to boot. Made up after the event.

Johnson was backing everything except no-deal and landed on Canada which must've come as a bit of a shock to them. Fox said it would be the easiest deal in history so certainly not a no-leave. Farage kept banging on about how rich Norway was (and Switzerland or Iceland) and espousing that at a great option. No point trying to work out which horse Gove was backing - he'll change his mind again tomorrow. Hannan said no one was threatening our place in the single market.

Little point being bothered with Corbyn's point of view. He's not delivering it (and nor) in my opinion will he ever be in a position to even try.

But May's told us emphatically what everyone voted for. Her red lines. If we break them then we are not delivering what people voted for.

Though one might look to polls that suggest support for her deal at best stands at 27%. So not exactly an emphatic or ringing endorsement of her red lines.

I find it embarrassing that Brexiteers now say "everyone knew that leaving meant leaving the SM and CU" yet during the campaign, constantly referenced countries in either the CU or SM as examples to "follow".

When you say Gove might "change his mind again" you mean if he gets a sniff at the PM's job he might suddenly advocate whatever scenario he thinks will get him there? Aye.

Leave meant one thing, leave, it's not that hard.

Oh how I wish these so called democratic wailing MP's would actually tell the people the truth that all they want is to remain prisoners of the EU no mater what it takes and it has fcuk all to do with democracy and taking charge.
Much as I dislike May's deal I'd vote for it just to spite the spineless, self centred excuses for human beings that love Merkel and little frog face, revolution and the gallows for the lot of them.

Ok. So we become like Norway (which was often a part of the Brexiteer argument) then. We've left. I think most people on both sides should be happy with that?

We leave, are not dictated to by the ECJ, nor any tinkering with regulation except common global rules and we don't pay to subsidise half of the member states, that's what you will find most voted for whilst not excepting their waifs and strays.

[Hoboh]

'Secret' EU report states there will be decades of unrest in the UK and riots, N Ireland and Scotland will have indy referendums within two years (seems they forgot about Wales), the UK is over run by the 'far Right'.
Strange how they haven't mentioned EU stalwart France, right and left wing riots every weekend now joined by Red scarves and blue vest who protest against yellow vests, that's going to end well
Project fear alive and kicking, lie after lie and all the remainiacs can come up with is a maybe on the side of a bus.