Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:15 pm

Enoch wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:34 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:22 pm
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Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.
Is he on a pro contract?
He's played for us once. In a game we lost. Does it matter?
Apparently twice. Came on for 1 minute against Walsall, I may have missed that.

Is there a compensation angle?
Yeah I think it’s a tribunal fee if not on a pro contract. We tend to give our youngsters away anyway so not sure what difference it might make!

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by nicholaldo » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:05 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:22 pm
officer_dibble wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:19 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:32 pm
Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.
Is he on a pro contract?
He's played for us once. In a game we lost. Does it matter?

It only matters in the sense that the other clubs probably wouldn't be interested in him at this stage if he was because they wouldn't be able to pick him up for a pittance at a compensation tribunal. Not only that but if he was signed to a professional contract with us and went on to suggest that he might be a potential superstar between now and the end of the season, we'd have been in a position to name our price come the summer.

But as you imply, this is all very speculative because he's only played the once, and even if we were in a position to negotiate to a figure that we found acceptable, it's unlikely to be an earth-shatteringly high one. I suppose, though, it might have been the difference between receiving an amount that pays the wages for a couple of months and an amount that merely keeps the hot water taps on a little longer.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 am

Connell's performance on Friday was pretty much the only good thing which has happened at this club all season. If he's allowed to leave on a free to sit in Burnley's reserves I think I'll be forced to officially join the pessimist contingent.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:44 am

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Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 am
Connell's performance on Friday was pretty much the only good thing which has happened at this club all season. If he's allowed to leave on a free to sit in Burnley's reserves I think I'll be forced to officially join the pessimist contingent.
Not sure its a question of "allowed" is it? He's reportedly yet to sign a professional contract here and his scholarship deal runs out in the summer.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:05 pm

Parky trying to sound hopeful. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... jury-woes/

“Getting rid of the embargo has given us the options of bringing one or two players in. We are working towards that and if it happens, great, but if it doesn’t we have the bonus of the youngsters adding to the squad.

“As always in this situation you have managers saying ‘yeah, he can come to you but we’re not letting you know until the last day because we’re trying to get someone in’. Others we have spoken to have got two or three options. I met one yesterday and it would be a great signing for us if we get him but he has got other options.

“Quite a few teams got their rearranged games cancelled because of the transfer window but we have got to make sure we focus on Reading.”

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:44 am
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Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 am
Connell's performance on Friday was pretty much the only good thing which has happened at this club all season. If he's allowed to leave on a free to sit in Burnley's reserves I think I'll be forced to officially join the pessimist contingent.
Not sure its a question of "allowed" is it? He's reportedly yet to sign a professional contract here and his scholarship deal runs out in the summer.
Well yeah, ultimately it's obviously the boy's choice. However, you would think that if we were to offer a reasonable contract and some assurances that he will get first team football that would be an attractive proposition for him. Given he's not signed, I am not confident that we have put an offer of that nature on the table.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm

When dealing with Ken, the only place "confidence" and "contracts" are close together is in the dictionary.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:52 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm
When dealing with Ken, the only place "confidence" and "contracts" are close together is in the dictionary.
True dat.

I just read on Twitter that Spurs are sending a scout to watch Luca tonight. It now seems almost inevitable his head will be turned.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:18 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:52 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:40 pm
When dealing with Ken, the only place "confidence" and "contracts" are close together is in the dictionary.
True dat.

I just read on Twitter that Spurs are sending a scout to watch Luca tonight. It now seems almost inevitable his head will be turned.
In which case, since he was good enough to be included in our first eleven, which K.A and Parky obviously knew, if he goes for buttons, whose fault will that be? Just wondering.
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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:11 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:44 am
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 am
Connell's performance on Friday was pretty much the only good thing which has happened at this club all season. If he's allowed to leave on a free to sit in Burnley's reserves I think I'll be forced to officially join the pessimist contingent.
Not sure its a question of "allowed" is it? He's reportedly yet to sign a professional contract here and his scholarship deal runs out in the summer.
Well yeah, ultimately it's obviously the boy's choice. However, you would think that if we were to offer a reasonable contract and some assurances that he will get first team football that would be an attractive proposition for him. Given he's not signed, I am not confident that we have put an offer of that nature on the table.
I’d have thought that anyone with ability will be being advised by their agents to get the hell out of Bolton as fast as they can. And I frankly can not blame them.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:09 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:11 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:44 am
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:37 am
Connell's performance on Friday was pretty much the only good thing which has happened at this club all season. If he's allowed to leave on a free to sit in Burnley's reserves I think I'll be forced to officially join the pessimist contingent.
Not sure its a question of "allowed" is it? He's reportedly yet to sign a professional contract here and his scholarship deal runs out in the summer.
Well yeah, ultimately it's obviously the boy's choice. However, you would think that if we were to offer a reasonable contract and some assurances that he will get first team football that would be an attractive proposition for him. Given he's not signed, I am not confident that we have put an offer of that nature on the table.
I’d have thought that anyone with ability will be being advised by their agents to get the hell out of Bolton as fast as they can. And I frankly can not blame them.
Well he starts tonight. Nothing like playing first team to build your profile.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:49 pm

Or raise your tribunal fee.

What’s the point in academies at our level?

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:28 am

officer_dibble wrote:
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Or raise your tribunal fee.

What’s the point in academies at our level?
There aren't going to be that many players who are good enough before signing a professional contract to court attention from the Prem. This situation is a feck up on Bolton's behalf, as Connell now appears to be our best player.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:34 am

I just hope he has some sort of affiliation with the club, enough to sign a deal with a release clause in it at least. To lose him for a nominal fee would be a massive kick in the bollocks, worse than anything else that’s gone on recently!

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by The_Gun » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:41 am

officer_dibble wrote:
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I just hope he has some sort of affiliation with the club, enough to sign a deal with a release clause in it at least. To lose him for a nominal fee would be a massive kick in the bollocks, worse than anything else that’s gone on recently!
I agree completely, we absolutely cannot afford to lose players like this for nothing. The hope I'm hanging onto is the fact the boy's been at the club since he was 8 and now looks like he'll get a good run in the first team.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by TonyDomingos » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm

The BN reporting that we are after Leon Clarke (33 yo) from Sheffield United. Wiggin also in for him. "Ironically", he's available because of the Goal Machine's loan to the Blades.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... on-clarke/
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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm
The BN reporting that we are after Leon Clarke (33 yo) from Sheffield United. Wiggin also in for him. "Ironically", he's available because of the Goal Machine's loan to the Blades.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... on-clarke/
Christ. First Donaldson, now him. It's like a deathbed clipreel of has-been Blades. Is Tony Agana still available?

Mind, beggars can't be choosers. I'd sing his name if he came in and it worked.

But he won't. Because it looks like he may have a choice between a club outside the relegation zone who've just been taken over and a club in the relegation zone with a shot-shy team, a defensive manager and a chairman renowned for consistent issues of non-payment and late payment. Frankly, unless Parky has some kind of mesmerism (which he curiously elects not to use on players at his disposal), the only players we might attract are ones that nobody else wants, ones that are from lower divisions and desperate enough to give it a go, or idiots.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Enoch » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:56 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm
TonyDomingos wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm
The BN reporting that we are after Leon Clarke (33 yo) from Sheffield United.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... on-clarke/
Christ. First Donaldson, now him. It's like a deathbed clipreel of has-been Blades. Is Tony Agana still available?
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Vaz Tê is only 32.

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:53 pm

Enoch wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:56 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm
TonyDomingos wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm
The BN reporting that we are after Leon Clarke (33 yo) from Sheffield United.
Christ. First Donaldson, now him. It's like a deathbed clipreel of has-been Blades. Is Tony Agana still available?
Vaz Tê is only 32.
Just checked and he never played for the Blades. (Side note: if anyone can name all five teams he played for over here, they deserve applause or pity.)

Geoff Horsfield, Jon Stead, James Beattie, Danny Webber, Colin Kazim-Richards, Ade Akinbiyi, Neil Shipperley, Danny Cadamarteri, Tommy Johnson, Andy Liddell, Ashley Ward, Wayne Allison, where are you now?

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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

Post by Enoch » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:44 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:53 pm
Enoch wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:56 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:56 pm
TonyDomingos wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:09 pm
The BN reporting that we are after Leon Clarke (33 yo) from Sheffield United.
Christ. First Donaldson, now him. It's like a deathbed clipreel of has-been Blades. Is Tony Agana still available?
Vaz Tê is only 32.
Just checked and he never played for the Blades. (Side note: if anyone can name all five teams he played for over here, they deserve applause or pity.)

Geoff Horsfield, Jon Stead, James Beattie, Danny Webber, Colin Kazim-Richards, Ade Akinbiyi, Neil Shipperley, Danny Cadamarteri, Tommy Johnson, Andy Liddell, Ashley Ward, Wayne Allison, where are you now?
Could be his year.

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