The Politics Thread

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And another Tory policy found to be racist by the high court.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 02666.html

What a surprise.

Once more that just shows your Ultra-liberal views.
Having actually read the piece it is easily apparent that any "Racist behaviour" is being implemented by individuals who misinterpret the policy. Only an idiot, including the judge in question, can interpret illegal immigrant in a racist manner: what do you mean? How can whites can be illegal immigrants!!!
The Tory policy is designed to root out ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It clearly is not racist per se.

Mr Justice Spencer said the government’s own evaluation of Right to Rent “failed to consider discrimination on grounds of nationality at all, only on grounds of ethnicity”, even though it was a “logical and wholly predicable” consequence.

I guess if you're a racist, you will go along and defend racism. I am not a racist and will not defend it.

It comes to something when a high court says "racism was logical and wholly predictable" yet you take a different view...defending the indefensible is not a good look.

And that ^ is the sort of thing that is giving Universities in this country a bad name right now. You can bang on about it all you fxcking want, but basically you're just trying to shut down free speech.
Simply: anti-illegal immigrant and racist are NOT THE SAME FXCKING THING, no matter how much you cast aspersions.
I don't give one tiny fxck about how I look "in your mind".

LOL. The old "free speech" argument. Never would have guessed.

LOL Louder... I'd never have guessed you wouldn't have guessed...

Here's a hint. If you want to take your pathetic Racist agenda a step further, try looking on the Tibetxit thread. Nobody else has commented. Straightforward Racism there for a bear of little brain I'd'a'thought!

[BWFC_Insane]

Amber Rudd......ooooooops!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Amber Rudd......ooooooops!

Amber, a woman of colour herself. But, slightly less transparent...

[Harry Genshaw]

Amber Rudd......ooooooops!

I remember being shocked about 20 years ago when a teacher friend referred to one of her pupils as coloured. For an MP in this day and age? Wow! She'd actually come across quite well in the interview and it was a valid point she was making but what a gaffe.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Amber Rudd......ooooooops!

I remember being shocked about 20 years ago when a teacher friend referred to one of her pupils as coloured. For an MP in this day and age? Wow! She'd actually come across quite well in the interview and it was a valid point she was making but what a gaffe.

The word is not generally used over here but it is not absolutely taboo. One of the main lobby groups is the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Similarly with "negro" which is found for example in the United Negro College Fund. However, in common parlance, one would use African-American or Black, while the others are only used in an historical context or in a proper name such as those above. The term "person of color" is still used in the US and, I believe, coloured and Cape coloured are current use in South Africa.

[Enoch]

Everywhere I look I see offence.

[Dujon]

And I, Enoch, a fence.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Everywhere I look I see offence.

There's a brilliant example just occurred on the radio.
Some dude, frothing at the mouth actually came out with this: "it really annoys me when white people use words like that..." (He actually spat White People)
Shall we examine that one?
Does this mean that he's not annoyed when blacks use words like that?
Is he not sensitive to the fact that some people of pink don't like being bundled into this 'white' category?

Personally I've decided to self-identity as Rainbow-hued with a higher proportion of Blue, although on Wednesdays I'll be a little more fluid...

[BWFC_Insane]

Everywhere I look I see offence.

There's a brilliant example just occurred on the radio.
Some dude, frothing at the mouth actually came out with this: "it really annoys me when white people use words like that..." (He actually spat White People)
Shall we examine that one?
Does this mean that he's not annoyed when blacks use words like that?
Is he not sensitive to the fact that some people of pink don't like being bundled into this 'white' category?

Personally I've decided to self-identity as Rainbow-hued with a higher proportion of Blue, although on Wednesdays I'll be a little more fluid...

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Everywhere I look I see offence.

There's a brilliant example just occurred on the radio.
Some dude, frothing at the mouth actually came out with this: "it really annoys me when white people use words like that..." (He actually spat White People)
Shall we examine that one?
Does this mean that he's not annoyed when blacks use words like that?
Is he not sensitive to the fact that some people of pink don't like being bundled into this 'white' category?

Personally I've decided to self-identity as Rainbow-hued with a higher proportion of Blue, although on Wednesdays I'll be a little more fluid...

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

When did you get to be Cultural Spokesperson???

So... Ms Bradley pisses off the Irish, whilst Ms Rudd slags off blacks by calling them coloured, whilst Ms Leadsome suggests Islamophobes is not her problem, thank you; all under the leadership of Mrs May.
Makes you wonder where that kinder, balanced, less testosterone politics has gone!
No doubt the stress from their historic female subservitude coupled with the guilt of their white privelege has caused a mental meltdown. I suggest they all take a deep breath and self-identity as black male Lions of Zion, ire, let Jah be praised!

[BWFC_Insane]

Everywhere I look I see offence.

There's a brilliant example just occurred on the radio.
Some dude, frothing at the mouth actually came out with this: "it really annoys me when white people use words like that..." (He actually spat White People)
Shall we examine that one?
Does this mean that he's not annoyed when blacks use words like that?
Is he not sensitive to the fact that some people of pink don't like being bundled into this 'white' category?

Personally I've decided to self-identity as Rainbow-hued with a higher proportion of Blue, although on Wednesdays I'll be a little more fluid...

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

When did you get to be Cultural Spokesperson???

So... Ms Bradley pisses off the Irish, whilst Ms Rudd slags off blacks by calling them coloured, whilst Ms Leadsome suggests Islamophobes is not her problem, thank you; all under the leadership of Mrs May.
Makes you wonder where that kinder, balanced, less testosterone politics has gone!
No doubt the stress from their historic female subservitude coupled with the guilt of their white privelege has caused a mental meltdown. I suggest they all take a deep breath and self-identity as black male Lions of Zion, ire, let Jah be praised!

The Rudd thing was more Partridge than anything else. Trying to make a supportive point yet fumbling over it...its just a particularly bad one when you were a part of the Windrush scandal...

Anyhow the lady on QT summed it up best "ultimately people are people and if you identify them by looking at their colour, race, faith or origin then you need to remember that ultimately they are just people". Something I try and remind myself all the time.

[TANGODANCER]

Anyhow the lady on QT summed it up best "ultimately people are people and if you identify them by looking at their colour, race, faith or origin then you need to remember that ultimately they are just people". Something I try and remind myself all the time.

Very profound, but ultimately subject to a further "codicil" worthy of remembering: Assholes come in every colour, race and religion under the sun. They are usually the ones who cause the problems regardless of the rest.

[BWFC_Insane]

Anyhow the lady on QT summed it up best "ultimately people are people and if you identify them by looking at their colour, race, faith or origin then you need to remember that ultimately they are just people". Something I try and remind myself all the time.

Very profound, but ultimately subject to a further "codicil" worthy of remembering: Assholes come in every colour, race and religion under the sun. They are usually the ones who cause the problems regardless of the rest.

No disagreement there. But the principle of "everyone has the same fair shake regardless of their faith, colour or origin until such point as we discover they are a wrong 'un" is essentially what that lady was saying.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Anyhow the lady on QT summed it up best "ultimately people are people and if you identify them by looking at their colour, race, faith or origin then you need to remember that ultimately they are just people". Something I try and remind myself all the time.

Very profound, but ultimately subject to a further "codicil" worthy of remembering: Assholes come in every colour, race and religion under the sun. They are usually the ones who cause the problems regardless of the rest.

For an old white man, you sound quite liberal...

[Montreal Wanderer]

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

Well, yes, but on the other hand most of the racism white people encounter in the UK probably comes from black English people. It is foolish to suggest that Caucasians in general are more likely to be racist than black people. Individuals can be racist but the UK institutionally is not. At least it does not appear so from over here. Further we should be judged by what we do or say, not what our grandparents did. Racism is certainly alive and well in today's world, but it does not come from a vast group like English white people. It comes from racists with an aversion to persons of a different racial heritage, whatever the colour.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

Well, yes, but on the other hand most of the racism white people encounter in the UK probably comes from black English people. It is foolish to suggest that Caucasians in general are more likely to be racist than black people. Individuals can be racist but the UK institutionally is not. At least it does not appear so from over here. Further we should be judged by what we do or say, not what our grandparents did. Racism is certainly alive and well in today's world, but it does not come from a vast group like English white people. It comes from racists with an aversion to persons of a different racial heritage, whatever the colour.

Well stated.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I will add that racism is a thing. But, a lot of people cry 'racist' when what they really mean is 'you don't believe what I believe'.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

And Monty... "Caucasians..." really. I've never been anywhere near Georgia.

My family are pure Neando-European.

[Enoch]

At least it does not appear so from over here.

Nice save!

[BWFC_Insane]

As a black person living in the UK most if not all the racism you encounter comes from white English people. Context and history plays a huge role in how things are perceived - and rightly so.

Well, yes, but on the other hand most of the racism white people encounter in the UK probably comes from black English people. It is foolish to suggest that Caucasians in general are more likely to be racist than black people. Individuals can be racist but the UK institutionally is not. At least it does not appear so from over here. Further we should be judged by what we do or say, not what our grandparents did. Racism is certainly alive and well in today's world, but it does not come from a vast group like English white people. It comes from racists with an aversion to persons of a different racial heritage, whatever the colour.

I hugely respect you and your opinion but sadly cannot agree.

White British nationals are far less likely to experience racism than other ethnicities.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... in-britain

And the history thing is a nice idea but not a reality. If you are a black person being racially abused and called a slave in say Alabama, its a far more significant thing than a white man saying it to another white man, because of the history. Its absolutely relevant.

As for Britain not being institutionally racist - I'd agree up until a few years ago. Now I believe firmly we have a racist government and a racist opposition as politics seems to have drifted to the extremes. The windrush people who got deported I suspect would also have a very different take on whether Britain was institutionally racist or not.