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No. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
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Not sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
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You are correct it's not correct.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 amNot sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
But what do I know.
A 12 month rolling contract means he is employed for 12 months and on the contract end date is contracted for a further twelve months on the same basis.
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That is if there are break periods in the contract. In football that isn't always the case and often a rolling contract is in effect setting the severance package. We do not know the details - I know that when asked Iles has previously said that his understanding is that to "sack him" we'd need to pay him off for 12 months. That's "his understanding" rather than absolute fact - but its all we've got in terms of details.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:50 pmYou are correct it's not correct.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 amNot sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
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A 12 month rolling contract means he is employed for 12 months and on the contract end date is contracted for a further twelve months on the same basis.
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What you are describing is a permanent contract with a twelve month notice period. That's not a twelve month contract - in football, or outside football.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:08 pmThat is if there are break periods in the contract. In football that isn't always the case and often a rolling contract is in effect setting the severance package. We do not know the details - I know that when asked Iles has previously said that his understanding is that to "sack him" we'd need to pay him off for 12 months. That's "his understanding" rather than absolute fact - but its all we've got in terms of details.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:50 pmYou are correct it's not correct.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 amNot sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
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A 12 month rolling contract means he is employed for 12 months and on the contract end date is contracted for a further twelve months on the same basis.
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I realise that. My point is that when asked Iles has previously responded by saying "whenever they would sack him they'd have to pay 12 months". I'm not saying that it should be called a 12 month rolling contract, but only that in football often when something is described as a rolling contract it often means that is the severance period. I seem to remember (but could be wrong) that Megson was on a 12 month rolling deal and that we had to pay him 12 months on gardening leave as a result.....Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:28 pmWhat you are describing is a permanent contract with a twelve month notice period. That's not a twelve month contract - in football, or outside football.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:08 pmThat is if there are break periods in the contract. In football that isn't always the case and often a rolling contract is in effect setting the severance package. We do not know the details - I know that when asked Iles has previously said that his understanding is that to "sack him" we'd need to pay him off for 12 months. That's "his understanding" rather than absolute fact - but its all we've got in terms of details.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:50 pmYou are correct it's not correct.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 amNot sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
But what do I know.
A 12 month rolling contract means he is employed for 12 months and on the contract end date is contracted for a further twelve months on the same basis.
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I'll leave that to hang suspended in the internet ether...BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:41 pmI realise that. My point is that when asked Iles has previously responded by saying "whenever they would sack him they'd have to pay 12 months". I'm not saying that it should be called a 12 month rolling contract, but only that in football often when something is described as a rolling contract it often means that is the severance period. I seem to remember (but could be wrong) that Megson was on a 12 month rolling deal and that we had to pay him 12 months on gardening leave as a result.....Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:28 pmWhat you are describing is a permanent contract with a twelve month notice period. That's not a twelve month contract - in football, or outside football.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:08 pmThat is if there are break periods in the contract. In football that isn't always the case and often a rolling contract is in effect setting the severance package. We do not know the details - I know that when asked Iles has previously said that his understanding is that to "sack him" we'd need to pay him off for 12 months. That's "his understanding" rather than absolute fact - but its all we've got in terms of details.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:50 pmYou are correct it's not correct.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 10:07 amNot sure that's at all correct.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 amNo. It means at any point he is due 12 months notice...which in effect means 12 months salary to sack him. There may be some period defined within it (say after 4 years there is a break and notice can be served immediately) but as far as we know there isn't.knobpolisher wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 9:57 pmCheers I thought a 12 month rolling contract meant that at the end of each 12 month period it can be terminated by either party.
But what do I know.
A 12 month rolling contract means he is employed for 12 months and on the contract end date is contracted for a further twelve months on the same basis.
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About where it belongs.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pmI'll leave that to hang suspended in the internet ether...
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I think I've concluded from the exchange above, that we actually have "no clue" how much we might need to pay, to part ways with Parky? Would be good if that was the case, as that was my initial assumption.Enoch wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 amAbout where it belongs.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pmI'll leave that to hang suspended in the internet ether...
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Parkinson should pay the club compensation if they sack him for the past seasons drivel he's been responsible for on the pitch.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:40 amI think I've concluded from the exchange above, that we actually have "no clue" how much we might need to pay, to part ways with Parky? Would be good if that was the case, as that was my initial assumption.Enoch wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 1:40 amAbout where it belongs.Lost Leopard Spot wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pmI'll leave that to hang suspended in the internet ether...
Re: The next manager
On the Bolton News website today, Peter Reid looks like he is throwing his hat into the ring. Could do worse.
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I think you are a bit harsh on Reidy. I would be happy with Nolan. He has been quiet during all this palaver. Watching and waiting.
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Kev Nolan may be a Scouser, but when here he was pure Bolton. He's the man for me.
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Agreed. If, on the back of a new regime taking over Nolan was appointed by early July, there could be a real feel good factor around the place.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 6:54 pmKev Nolan may be a Scouser, but when here he was pure Bolton. He's the man for me.
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Does he have the requisite ability though? Being Bolton won’t help win games.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 6:54 pmKev Nolan may be a Scouser, but when here he was pure Bolton. He's the man for me.
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How do you determine that then?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 7:52 pmDoes he have the requisite ability though?TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 6:54 pmKev Nolan may be a Scouser, but when here he was pure Bolton. He's the man for me.
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What a question, you will of course have the answer? Who do you think will be in the queue then, Pep Guardiola, Jose Maurhino, hey, might even tempt Zinedine Zidane? All of them have lost a game or two, and their reputations wouldn't count zilch at the Unibol food bank youth academy. Right now we're hardly Barcelona or Paris St Germain are we? I'll take Nolan happily.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 7:52 pmDoes he have the requisite ability though? Being Bolton won’t help win games.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 6:54 pmKev Nolan may be a Scouser, but when here he was pure Bolton. He's the man for me.
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I'd rather have a promotion from within - David Lee
Or if we have to appoint from outside - I'd have Phil Brown
Or if we have to appoint from outside - I'd have Phil Brown
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Take cover!!!! Incoming from Bruce!!!
I'd have Nolan, obviously he's unproven but he'd be popular, is respected and has got some experience at the bottom end of the leagues now as a manager. He'd be able to pick his own players as well.
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