Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Ah balls, I got inaccurate info from TransfermarktDave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:38 pmSadly for us, he extended in summer to 2024.The_Gun wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:36 pmHe never even makes their squad and his contract is up in the summer, so looks like he could be a realistic target. I'd take him back in a heartbeat, and he'd clearly be a huge upgrade on Gordon.officer_dibble wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:28 pmWonder if that lad at Huddersfield is worth an enquiry for left back?
https://www.htafc.com/news/2021/august/ ... 0extension.
Doesn't mean we couldn't loan him again. I like him.
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
The thing is that what Evatt is saying we need (leaders) are absolutely the toughest thing to find in any sport. Nobody wants to lose the kinds of characters who drive a team forward week after week and there are few of them about.
Scotland might be your best bet, but can we even attract decent SPL players at the moment? You look at the likes of Tanser and McCart at St.Johnstone who show real determination and graft on the pitch, but could we get them? Same goes for their goalkeeper Clark. 3 of the players from the second best defensive unit in Scotland are running down contracts and would boss this division. Wigan could get them, but I'm not sure we could.
Scotland might be your best bet, but can we even attract decent SPL players at the moment? You look at the likes of Tanser and McCart at St.Johnstone who show real determination and graft on the pitch, but could we get them? Same goes for their goalkeeper Clark. 3 of the players from the second best defensive unit in Scotland are running down contracts and would boss this division. Wigan could get them, but I'm not sure we could.
- Dave Sutton's barnet
- Immortal
- Posts: 28825
- Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 4:00 pm
- Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation
- Contact:
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Oh, if I were only to post the things I thought BWFCi would agree with, it’d be a lot quieter around here…GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:55 pmI can hear Insane's joy at us signing Tyler Magloire, the slight 22 year old with barely any league experience. Likewise Bradley Johnson - bringing a player who got dropped after conceding 7 to fix our defensive issues.
I actually think Magloire is the kind of player we would look at. Pace would allow us to push up the pitch and compact midfield and he can play
I suspect my insane amigo would like a little more pace at the back and leadership in the middle. I know I would. I don’t know if they’re the answer but they may be available.
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 14096
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
He can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opensGhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:24 pmThe thing is that what Evatt is saying we need (leaders) are absolutely the toughest thing to find in any sport. Nobody wants to lose the kinds of characters who drive a team forward week after week and there are few of them about.
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
It remains who we can attract. There are a lot of captains and former captains on expiring deals in the Championship. Tom Lawrence and Graeme Shinnie of Derby for example. Not sure we could afford to pay half of one of their wages, though. Bradley Johnson is one of Blackburn's biggest earners when you factor in his bonuses, or was when they signed him. George Honeyman at Hull. The list goes on.
I'd arguably be looking down a division, rather than up, if I was looking for proper leaders who would actually come here. I may be underestimating our draw, though.
I'd arguably be looking down a division, rather than up, if I was looking for proper leaders who would actually come here. I may be underestimating our draw, though.
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
After last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
- BWFC_Insane
- Immortal
- Posts: 36415
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
You mean where a player unceremoniously dumped out of a club celebrated his new club winning against his former? How shocking.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
He was our leader and when he went Evatt told us it was for the best cos we have lots of options to play there.
Bout time some of these options were revealed cos so far we've seen none and been shite....
- Worthy4England
- Immortal
- Posts: 32724
- Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
I get where you're coming from, he needs to mitigate the loss and I'm not seeing it.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Clearly Evatt's hand was forced there - he's not done it on a whim, and what is he meant to say - "Yeah Sarcevic has acted a c*nt so we had to get rid, but now we're fecked in midfield"?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:50 pmYou mean where a player unceremoniously dumped out of a club celebrated his new club winning against his former? How shocking.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
He was our leader and when he went Evatt told us it was for the best cos we have lots of options to play there.
Bout time some of these options were revealed cos so far we've seen none and been shite....
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Sod assuming who was in the right and who was in the wrong, I don't care about any of that. Sarce is a moody child. I was fine with him on the pitch, but never liked him off it. The Stockport stuff just reinforced that. If he's the sort of character people want "leading" this club I'd rather not bother.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:50 pmYou mean where a player unceremoniously dumped out of a club celebrated his new club winning against his former? How shocking.
He was our leader and when he went Evatt told us it was for the best cos we have lots of options to play there.
Bout time some of these options were revealed cos so far we've seen none and been shite....
I wasn't offended by what he did, it just reinforced everything I disliked about him and ignored because he was our captain. I don't have to ignore that he's a wanker anymore.
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 14096
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
I couldn't give a shit about Sarce last night, but he was an important player for us, our captain and then all of sudden we can do better, despite getting worse and the manager complains publicly that we don't have options and lack leadership.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
I like Evatt as a manager, but feck me, he spews some absolute shite at times and needs to hold his tongue
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Agreed with that sentiment since week one.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:59 pmI like Evatt as a manager, but feck me, he spews some absolute shite at times and needs to hold his tongue
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 14096
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
If these owners are worth their salt, they'll need to back Evatt with sizeable funds in January. We need 5 players minimum.
A couple of million from their own ware chest and possibly even 3-4m from Dapo for the greater good
If they can't, or won't then they need to start answering some tough questions, because the soundbytes and the good will, will soon run out
A couple of million from their own ware chest and possibly even 3-4m from Dapo for the greater good
If they can't, or won't then they need to start answering some tough questions, because the soundbytes and the good will, will soon run out
"I've got the ball now. It's a bit worn, but I've got it"
- BWFC_Insane
- Immortal
- Posts: 36415
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
What's he supposed to say? The truth. Or 'Its a shame its happened but sometimes in football these things happen. Its not ideal in October to lose your captain and regular starter and we have a hole there now but its an opportunity for someone and we move on together'.The_Gun wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:56 pmClearly Evatt's hand was forced there - he's not done it on a whim, and what is he meant to say - "Yeah Sarcevic has acted a c*nt so we had to get rid, but now we're fecked in midfield"?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:50 pmYou mean where a player unceremoniously dumped out of a club celebrated his new club winning against his former? How shocking.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
He was our leader and when he went Evatt told us it was for the best cos we have lots of options to play there.
Bout time some of these options were revealed cos so far we've seen none and been shite....
In 5 seconds I've answered it better than Evatt did. He told us we had loads of options - where and who? Because so far we've not seen a player better than Sarce do that role - nor one as good.
- BWFC_Insane
- Immortal
- Posts: 36415
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Its not the owners fault Its two bad summer windows. I'd be questioning what is happening in the summer. We've got the money available to spend and Evatt told everyone we were the best team in the league. He also said we'd got all our targets and didn't need to sign anyone else.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:11 pmIf these owners are worth their salt, they'll need to back Evatt with sizeable funds in January. We need 5 players minimum.
A couple of million from their own ware chest and possibly even 3-4m from Dapo for the greater good
If they can't, or won't then they need to start answering some tough questions, because the soundbytes and the good will, will soon run out
This isn't a manager who is starved of resources and can only work with what he's got. Its a manager who has assembled the squad he wanted and has been supported to do that and the fact he got it wrong a second time is not the owners fault.
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
A couple of million rupees, maybe. I can't see them throwing in massive unplanned spending and I'm not sure I'd want them to.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:11 pmIf these owners are worth their salt, they'll need to back Evatt with sizeable funds in January. We need 5 players minimum.
A couple of million from their own ware chest and possibly even 3-4m from Dapo for the greater good
If they can't, or won't then they need to start answering some tough questions, because the soundbytes and the good will, will soon run out
- Worthy4England
- Immortal
- Posts: 32724
- Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
This isn't about Evatt Vs Sarce. That's no longer important. One of them is ours, the other isn't.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
We need to see is someone on the pitch who can give some leadership - I don't think that's big Ric - so who's going to do that? or are we saying we're just rudderless, tough shit, wait until January?
My problem if that's the argument is WTF were we going to do if Sarce did a cruciate?
No plan B.
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Where did he say we got "all our targets"? Was that a BN piece?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:14 pmIts not the owners fault Its two bad summer windows. I'd be questioning what is happening in the summer. We've got the money available to spend and Evatt told everyone we were the best team in the league. He also said we'd got all our targets and didn't need to sign anyone else.
This isn't a manager who is starved of resources and can only work with what he's got. Its a manager who has assembled the squad he wanted and has been supported to do that and the fact he got it wrong a second time is not the owners fault.
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
Doyle, MJ?Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:17 pmThis isn't about Evatt Vs Sarce. That's no longer important. One of them is ours, the other isn't.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:46 pmAfter last night's antics Sarce can go feck himself. I'll take Evatt over him any day of the week and I don't even like Evatt.boltonboris wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:41 pmHe can't say that kind of b**locks when he's just released his captain a quarter of a year before the transfer window opens
We need to see is someone on the pitch who can give some leadership - I don't think that's big Ric - so who's going to do that? or are we saying we're just rudderless, tough shit, wait until January?
My problem if that's the argument is WTF were we going to do if Sarce did a cruciate?
No plan B.
- GhostoftheBok
- Legend
- Posts: 7118
- Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:51 pm
Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.
We can't afford that kind of plan B, I don't think. We have 3 starting births in midfield and had 4 first team players. Then we have Tutte and Thomason, who are both cheap for this level. We can't afford to pay full whack to 6 players.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:17 pmThis isn't about Evatt Vs Sarce. That's no longer important. One of them is ours, the other isn't.
We need to see is someone on the pitch who can give some leadership - I don't think that's big Ric - so who's going to do that? or are we saying we're just rudderless, tough shit, wait until January?
My problem if that's the argument is WTF were we going to do if Sarce did a cruciate?
No plan B.
Same in defence. We paid good money to Johnston and John, then decent money to Aimson. Then we kept our eyes open for options in other positions but ultimately went with what we had. Evatt said he'd get fullbacks is any became available, but we were paying 6 first team wages for 4 positions at that stage.
Up front is where we blew most of the budget, by the looks of it and that will also be why we've got holes elsewhere. There's a lot of wages up there. I think most managers would probably put their budget up top if they had to pick.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: dave the minion, Google [Bot] and 84 guests