January 2022 Transfer Thread

[LeverEnd]

SKD? Do you mean SJM? SKDs penalties were not all that!

Did SKD miss many penalties? Might be me misremembering but i always picture him burying them in the corner, no power particularly but always placed.

You're right re SJM though. Don't recall him missing any either.

What about Tony Philliskirk? The ice man cometh to Burnden Park...

[The_Gun]

Some recently created Twitter account (Trotters_Talk) claiming Thomason will join Stockport on a free in the summer. Given he’s contracted until 2023 I can’t see this being anything other than bullshit.

[Prufrock]

Insightful, Ghosty, but I would say little different than many clubs for the most part (there's obviously some better able to cope with running costs).

I doubt too many would look at Dixon's Tuesday cock-up and rationalise it with his asset value. I suspect quite a few mighta started with "He's shit and the problem with this system is..."

I understand what you're saying about CD's. Evatt's placed his bet(s). It's a longer bet than the last game I watched (or even the last season) yadda yadda and in five years we'll be reaping the benefits of a whole conveyer belt of assets...but if we can't suggest that "x" or "y" are currently good/bad/need replacing, there's going to be some mighty thin match snd transfer threads whilst we wait for the project to deliver...

We absolutely can and I often do. Transfer speculation is one of the fun things about forums.

One of many...

[BWFC_Insane]

Insightful, Ghosty, but I would say little different than many clubs for the most part (there's obviously some better able to cope with running costs).

I doubt too many would look at Dixon's Tuesday cock-up and rationalise it with his asset value. I suspect quite a few mighta started with "He's shit and the problem with this system is..."

I understand what you're saying about CD's. Evatt's placed his bet(s). It's a longer bet than the last game I watched (or even the last season) yadda yadda and in five years we'll be reaping the benefits of a whole conveyer belt of assets...but if we can't suggest that "x" or "y" are currently good/bad/need replacing, there's going to be some mighty thin match snd transfer threads whilst we wait for the project to deliver...

We absolutely can and I often do. Transfer speculation is one of the fun things about forums.

Evatt told us this was his perfect squad. Repeatedly for months. So the idea it’s just not good enough but a long term play doesn’t sit. He has made his calls. Like last summer sadly most haven’t been the right ones.

I suspect as a young manager he’s just a bit naive to the demands of league two and one football especially the physical ones. And January offers a chance to correct that.

[GhostoftheBok]

Aberdeen are signing Dante Polvara from one of my old haunts over the pond, so that explains why Dean Campbell might be available for loan. Apparently a much more physically developed player, so suits what they need more.

[GhostoftheBok]

Evatt told us this was his perfect squad. Repeatedly for months. So the idea it’s just not good enough but a long term play doesn’t sit. He has made his calls. Like last summer sadly most haven’t been the right ones.

I suspect as a young manager he’s just a bit naive to the demands of league two and one football especially the physical ones. And January offers a chance to correct that.

I didn't say Evatt doesn't regard them as good enough for the job at hand. I said you have to factor in investment when asking him to replace players. It's not Evatt who is saying we should bin off everyone...

Saying Evatt and his staff are too naïve to foresee the demands of Leagues they only recently played in is also odd.

[GhostoftheBok]

Some recently created Twitter account (Trotters_Talk) claiming Thomason will join Stockport on a free in the summer. Given he’s contracted until 2023 I can’t see this being anything other than bullshit.

Mostly seems to be writing "I have just been informed" in front of stuff that Iles and others reported earlier in the week.

[Worthy4England]

I said you have to factor in investment when asking him to replace players.

One of the joys of being a football fan, is that we absolutely don't have to do this! If we think his CD's are crap, we can just say so.

Manager on the other hand has no such luxury and it's going to be a push for him to say to the Board "about those 2 CDs I signed in summer...."

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Insightful, Ghosty, but I would say little different than many clubs for the most part (there's obviously some better able to cope with running costs).

I doubt too many would look at Dixon's Tuesday cock-up and rationalise it with his asset value. I suspect quite a few mighta started with "He's shit and the problem with this system is..."

I understand what you're saying about CD's. Evatt's placed his bet(s). It's a longer bet than the last game I watched (or even the last season) yadda yadda and in five years we'll be reaping the benefits of a whole conveyer belt of assets...but if we can't suggest that "x" or "y" are currently good/bad/need replacing, there's going to be some mighty thin match snd transfer threads whilst we wait for the project to deliver...

We absolutely can and I often do. Transfer speculation is one of the fun things about forums.

Evatt told us this was his perfect squad. Repeatedly for months. So the idea it’s just not good enough but a long term play doesn’t sit. He has made his calls. Like last summer sadly most haven’t been the right ones.

I suspect as a young manager he’s just a bit naive to the demands of league two and one football especially the physical ones. And January offers a chance to correct that.

And not even an element of that was rallying the troops. I mean, we all know he spouts bollocks most of the time, but he was hardly going to tell all we're doomed after Sarce left. I'd also add that you've pointed out he's full of shit on more than one occasion, and to now take a statement as 100% accurate on the money is being selective at best and disingenuous at worst.

I think things got worse than he thought they would. Lets see how he's addressed it at the end of the window rather than doom and gloom at the start because we've only signed 1 player in a position.

[GhostoftheBok]

Manager on the other hand has no such luxury and it's going to be a push for him to say to the Board "about those 2 CDs I signed in summer...."

"Yes, Ian?"
"Well....the thing is....they're shite."
"Shite?"
"Yes, Sharon."
"Johnston?"
"Yeah, him too."
"You used the phrase, "Prime Maldini", Ian."
"If I'm honest, I'd had a few cans."
"Jesus tells me to forgive you, Ian....but he says it was a close one."

[Worthy4England]

That's the one!

He could open with "Not gonna believe this Sharon, but that algorithm the recruitment team were using was only in alpha"

[officer_dibble]

Josh Magennis to Wigan. He will shoot up that most hated ex players list in no time!

[BWFC_Insane]

Evatt told us this was his perfect squad. Repeatedly for months. So the idea it’s just not good enough but a long term play doesn’t sit. He has made his calls. Like last summer sadly most haven’t been the right ones.

I suspect as a young manager he’s just a bit naive to the demands of league two and one football especially the physical ones. And January offers a chance to correct that.

I didn't say Evatt doesn't regard them as good enough for the job at hand. I said you have to factor in investment when asking him to replace players. It's not Evatt who is saying we should bin off everyone...

Saying Evatt and his staff are too naïve to foresee the demands of Leagues they only recently played in is also odd.

Oh I’m quite sure at some point the question will be asked as to why we need to keep going into the market to replace players we already signed. Absolutely. That’s up to the owners to decide.

Having played in the league doesn’t mean you aren’t naive in the make up of a team needed to do well. We see the teams at the top and all of them without question are more physical and stronger than we are. So clearly that’s something we’ve neglected. Like last season when we had no presence in midfield and MJ came in and changed it.

[BWFC_Insane]

Insightful, Ghosty, but I would say little different than many clubs for the most part (there's obviously some better able to cope with running costs).

I doubt too many would look at Dixon's Tuesday cock-up and rationalise it with his asset value. I suspect quite a few mighta started with "He's shit and the problem with this system is..."

I understand what you're saying about CD's. Evatt's placed his bet(s). It's a longer bet than the last game I watched (or even the last season) yadda yadda and in five years we'll be reaping the benefits of a whole conveyer belt of assets...but if we can't suggest that "x" or "y" are currently good/bad/need replacing, there's going to be some mighty thin match snd transfer threads whilst we wait for the project to deliver...

We absolutely can and I often do. Transfer speculation is one of the fun things about forums.

Evatt told us this was his perfect squad. Repeatedly for months. So the idea it’s just not good enough but a long term play doesn’t sit. He has made his calls. Like last summer sadly most haven’t been the right ones.

I suspect as a young manager he’s just a bit naive to the demands of league two and one football especially the physical ones. And January offers a chance to correct that.

And not even an element of that was rallying the troops. I mean, we all know he spouts bollocks most of the time, but he was hardly going to tell all we're doomed after Sarce left. I'd also add that you've pointed out he's full of shit on more than one occasion, and to now take a statement as 100% accurate on the money is being selective at best and disingenuous at worst.

I think things got worse than he thought they would. Lets see how he's addressed it at the end of the window rather than doom and gloom at the start because we've only signed 1 player in a position.

Way before Sarce went he was saying we didn’t need more players and had a squad he wanted with all his top targets. He said that for months and then when the wheels came off it’s suddenly a different story.

Most managers when things go well would just stay coy but I think Evatt genuinely thought we were this amazing team and going for promotion. He did in my view believe that.

It was naive and I don’t think post rationalisation of ‘he said it to keep confidence high’ works at all as he was chuntering on like that during the summer and we had momentum and confidence then. It’s also a direct repeat of last summer in terms of a bit of naivety and bravado getting in the way.

I don’t mind Evatt. What I find more irritating is the constant defence of what are clearly some naive decisions from a young manager which boils down to ‘his brand of football means we can’t do anything else’. No manager can live off that especially one who has only been one for a few years. He needs results and to show he is learning how to achieve results. What we don’t need is any sense that the club is buying into his hype. I think he’s got something. He’s a bright bloke and has the grit I want in a manager. But he still has to learn the lessons that those before him did. A no amount of modern manager bullshit avoids that. There is an element of muck and nettles in league one. We are incredibly poorly equipped for that side of the game as we’ve seen on numerous occasions this season. You can’t avoid it. Evatt surely by now knows this.

[nicholaldo]

Iles reports we're interesting in signing Aaron Morley from Rochdale.

[nicholaldo]

[GhostoftheBok]

That's the one!

He could open with "Not gonna believe this Sharon, but that algorithm the recruitment team were using was only in alpha"

"Come back when it's the alpha and omega, Ian."

[The_Gun]

Local lad, good age, right position, out of contract in the summer. Makes sense to me.

[GhostoftheBok]

Local lad, good age, right position, out of contract in the summer. Makes sense to me.

Yeah, looks like the sort. Still waiting to see Evatt's "right kind of leaders" show up.

[GhostoftheBok]

Oh I’m quite sure at some point the question will be asked as to why we need to keep going into the market to replace players we already signed. Absolutely. That’s up to the owners to decide.

Having played in the league doesn’t mean you aren’t naive in the make up of a team needed to do well. We see the teams at the top and all of them without question are more physical and stronger than we are. So clearly that’s something we’ve neglected. Like last season when we had no presence in midfield and MJ came in and changed it.

You always seem to assume that Evatt hasn't seen the need of something, rather than that thing not being available within our budgets in the market at the time.

I don't think Evatt has suddenly realised League One is vastly different than he thought. I do think we are able to now spend some money on the kinds of players we couldn't get in the summer.

Do you imagine we were hanging on to Tutte and the like because Evatt thought they'd be top class options in League One?