Deal or no deal? - Summer 2022 Transfer gossip!

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Re: Deal or no deal? - Summer 2022 Transfer gossip!

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue May 03, 2022 12:29 pm

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A Dale supporting friend sent me a clip of his goal against Hartlepool, so apropos a bit of curiosity I did a little digging (as had Brommers, it transpired).
He just about ticks every box for me - big strong lad who can defend, but who's also comfortable with the ball and combines his eye for a pass with a very high completion rate. He's the perfect age (26/27) and is out of contract at the end of the season. Coming from Dale I doubt he'll burst our bank, and I'd have thought that he'll see us as being a very decent step up.
I think that's all true and if we got him I wouldn't complain. My issue is tactical. He lacks the pace to play wide in a three. So you're looking at him either next to Santos in a 4 (fine) or replacing Santos in the middle of the three. If he's pushing Santos wide right that's crazy, because why move the best sweeper in the league? If he's replacing a departing Santos then he's nowhere near that level and would force us to completely change our approach (no more high line).

I think he's a better player than Aimson generally and he made my "bargain 11" list, but I don't think he kicks us on.

Again, I genuinely wouldn't complain if we got him. I really like him as a player, I'm just not sure he's a perfect fit.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 03, 2022 12:35 pm

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Tue May 03, 2022 12:27 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:16 pm
He's the perfect age (26/27)
Interesting, this. That would seem old for a striker but yeah, gives a defender experience. (Some Italians don't think defenders are born till they hit 30.)
In Feb 97 I was at Wembley to see the 30 year old Paolo Maldini give an absolute Left Back masterclass.

It's not often that the performance of the other side's Left Back was so good that it lives 25 years in the memory :D
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Re: Deal or no deal? - Summer 2022 Transfer gossip!

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 12:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:35 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:27 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:16 pm
He's the perfect age (26/27)
Interesting, this. That would seem old for a striker but yeah, gives a defender experience. (Some Italians don't think defenders are born till they hit 30.)
In Feb 97 I was at Wembley to see the 30 year old Paolo Maldini give an absolute Left Back masterclass.

It's not often that the performance of the other side's Left Back was so good that it lives 25 years in the memory :D
Indeed. It's not often you see a person in any position or role with such mastery of his craft. This is the guy who preferred not to have to tackle, reasoning that if it got to that point he'd not his job properly. :D

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Re: Deal or no deal? - Summer 2022 Transfer gossip!

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 03, 2022 1:12 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:35 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:27 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:16 pm
He's the perfect age (26/27)
Interesting, this. That would seem old for a striker but yeah, gives a defender experience. (Some Italians don't think defenders are born till they hit 30.)
In Feb 97 I was at Wembley to see the 30 year old Paolo Maldini give an absolute Left Back masterclass.

It's not often that the performance of the other side's Left Back was so good that it lives 25 years in the memory :D
Indeed. It's not often you see a person in any position or role with such mastery of his craft. This is the guy who preferred not to have to tackle, reasoning that if it got to that point he'd not his job properly. :D
He had a point. He basically played this big 'L' shape from LB which supported both winger and LCB as and when appropriate, yet was never caught out of position once. Anyway, we digress :D
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue May 03, 2022 1:13 pm

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Anyway, we digress :D
Er....he's no Jack Iredale!

There you go, back on topic.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 03, 2022 2:08 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:54 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:35 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:27 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 12:16 pm
He's the perfect age (26/27)
Interesting, this. That would seem old for a striker but yeah, gives a defender experience. (Some Italians don't think defenders are born till they hit 30.)
In Feb 97 I was at Wembley to see the 30 year old Paolo Maldini give an absolute Left Back masterclass.

It's not often that the performance of the other side's Left Back was so good that it lives 25 years in the memory :D
Indeed. It's not often you see a person in any position or role with such mastery of his craft.This is the guy who preferred not to have to tackle, reasoning that if it got to that point he'd not his job properly. :D
This is true. Few and far between. I can remember Gerald Cid’s debut like it was yesterday….

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Post by irie Cee Bee » Tue May 03, 2022 2:16 pm

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Mon May 02, 2022 9:19 pm
Morecambe's Derek Adams certainly not prevaricating.
https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2022/m ... announced/
Arthur Gnahoua, Adam Smith and Aaron Wildig have all been offered new contracts whilst Dylan Connolly, Ousmane Fane, Liam Gibson and Cole Stockton remain under contract for the 2022/23 campaign.

Goalkeeper Andre Da Silva Mendes has had the 12-month option triggered from his contract.

Jonah Ayunga, Ryan Cooney, Ryan Delaney, Courtney Duffus, Wes McDonald, Ryan McLaughlin, Shane McLoughlin, Anthony O’Connor, Jon Obika and Connor Pye remain under contract but have been made available for transfer.

Players that are out of contract and will be leaving the football club are Rhys Bennett, Toumani Diagouraga, Greg Leigh, Jacob Mensah and Freddie Price whilst Jacob Bedeau, Trevor Carson, Alfie McCalmont and Adam Phillips have all returned to their parent clubs following the expiry of their loan deals.
Well done Arthur to earn a new contract. Greg Leigh is a good attacking LB if Iredale falls through. Looked decent when playing for Jamaica.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 4:18 pm

Charlton have sacked Johnnie Jackson. Wonder if that will unsettle the dozen or so lads they have out of contract – including Adam Matthews, Ben Purrington, Conor Washington and Corey Blackett-Taylor - and thus make them more susceptible to any advances we might make.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 03, 2022 4:23 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
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Well done Arthur to earn a new contract.
Indeed. I'm delighted for him.
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Post by Mar » Tue May 03, 2022 4:52 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 9:19 pm
Morecambe's Derek Adams certainly not prevaricating.
https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2022/m ... announced/
Arthur Gnahoua, Adam Smith and Aaron Wildig have all been offered new contracts whilst Dylan Connolly, Ousmane Fane, Liam Gibson and Cole Stockton remain under contract for the 2022/23 campaign.

Goalkeeper Andre Da Silva Mendes has had the 12-month option triggered from his contract.

Jonah Ayunga, Ryan Cooney, Ryan Delaney, Courtney Duffus, Wes McDonald, Ryan McLaughlin, Shane McLoughlin, Anthony O’Connor, Jon Obika and Connor Pye remain under contract but have been made available for transfer.

Players that are out of contract and will be leaving the football club are Rhys Bennett, Toumani Diagouraga, Greg Leigh, Jacob Mensah and Freddie Price whilst Jacob Bedeau, Trevor Carson, Alfie McCalmont and Adam Phillips have all returned to their parent clubs following the expiry of their loan deals.
Interesting approach that, telling those under contract that they can be transferred. Hardly something that will bring the squad together. Seems like a clearing house and trying to make a profit to spend elsewhere.

Gnahoua was probably on cheap wages so looks like thats not a big issue for them given he's playing second fiddle to Cole Stockton.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 6:01 pm

Cambridge have offered Iredale a contract, even though the gaffer said a while back he didn't expect him to sign it. Guess they have to just in case.

Greg Taylor, Liam O’Neil, Harrison Dunk, Adam May and Will Mannion have also been offered extensions.

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Post by brommers95 » Tue May 03, 2022 6:17 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 6:01 pm
Cambridge have offered Iredale a contract, even though the gaffer said a while back he didn't expect him to sign it. Guess they have to just in case.

Greg Taylor, Liam O’Neil, Harrison Dunk, Adam May and Will Mannion have also been offered extensions.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 9:25 pm

Marlon Fossey tweets a clipreel of him at Wanderers....
Harbinger of signature or "come and get me" plea... to whom?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 9:51 pm

Out of interest, I looked up all those who've left us under Evatt to see where they ended up...

Ali Crawford - St Johnstone (SCO t1)
Eoin Doyle - St Pat’s (IRL t1)
Dennis Politic - Cremonese (ITA t2)
Harry Brockbank - El Paso Locomotive (US t2)

Arthur Gnahoua - Morecambe (t3)
Ryan Delaney - Morecambe (t3), loaned to Scunny (t4)
George Taft - Scunthorpe (t4)
Jak Hickman - King’s Lynn Town (t5)
Jamie Mascoll - Wealdstone (t5)
Brandon Comley - Dagenham & Redbridge (t5)
Mo Faal - Enfield Town (t7)
Antoni Sarcevic - Stockport (t5)
Shaun Miller - Nantwich Town (t7)
Bright Amoateng - unattached since January 2022

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Post by brommers95 » Tue May 03, 2022 10:03 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 9:25 pm
Marlon Fossey tweets a clipreel of him at Wanderers....
Harbinger of signature or "come and get me" plea... to whom?
Fossey signing announcement this week, Iredale next week?

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue May 03, 2022 10:17 pm

That right knee looks wonky!

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue May 03, 2022 10:49 pm

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This is my "needs to happen" transfer of the window.

I can't see another player close to him that we can get and offers his versatility.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 03, 2022 10:54 pm

How good is Iredale at centre-back? I like his versatility and I would now be disappointed if he isn’t confirmed - but does he drop straight into the XI, presumably replacing Johnston?

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Post by brommers95 » Tue May 03, 2022 10:58 pm

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This is my "needs to happen" transfer of the window.

I can't see another player close to him that we can get and offers his versatility.
Yeah would be a great start to the summer and set the stage for a really productive window. Will be very disappointing if it doesn’t happen as I’m very invested in it now, as I’m sure many other fans are.

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue May 03, 2022 11:00 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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How good is Iredale at centre-back? I like his versatility and I would now be disappointed if he isn’t confirmed - but does he drop straight into the XI, presumably replacing Johnston?
With the caveat that he's improved dramatically this season and there's always the chance this period is form and not class....excellent.

I'd recommend people go and watch the first half of the Cambridge game at the Reebok from February.

He was an absolute rock in that game. Reading the play in front of him, winning every 50/50 and generally looking like BTEC Maldini.

In Evatt's system I think he's a better centre back than left back. I've watched all his games for Cambridge as a centre back this season, I think. He's obviously not perfect and we're talking about a League One player, but I don't think there was a better left-sided defender in the division this season.

I think Brommers has a similar view of him, but he can speak for himself.

As ever "most transfers fail" and all that stuff; but I'll be delighted to have him here. I think he can play a division up.

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