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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:05 am

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Dear Cricket grounds,

When installing floodlights, can you get them so they're fit for test cricket please?

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Ha, now there's the nail on head Bruce;
If the floodlights came on automatically according to the daylightometer, nothing or nobody else else need be involved.

p.s. I can visualise that at some future time ( Lord forbid) all stadiums will be indoor with plastic grass and automatic lighting (solar powered or wind assisted of course) :(
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:29 am

The floodlights were on, last evening....

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:30 am

Good win, to cap a good summer's tests. Great that everyone had to turn out for 25 minutes...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:04 pm

Something to ponder. James Anderson is 33 test wickets short of 700. He’s 42 short from going past Shane Warne who is 2nd highest test wicket taker of all time.

To say it’s possible he will surpass both milestones is frankly one of the most unbelievable sporting stories I think you can imagine.

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:49 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:04 pm
Something to ponder. James Anderson is 33 test wickets short of 700. He’s 42 short from going past Shane Warne who is 2nd highest test wicket taker of all time.

To say it’s possible he will surpass both milestones is frankly one of the most unbelievable sporting stories I think you can imagine.
Yeah - it would be quite incredible.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jimbo » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:49 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:04 pm
Something to ponder. James Anderson is 33 test wickets short of 700. He’s 42 short from going past Shane Warne who is 2nd highest test wicket taker of all time.

To say it’s possible he will surpass both milestones is frankly one of the most unbelievable sporting stories I think you can imagine.
Yeah - it would be quite incredible.
Not sure if it still stands after the last test, (I checked after Old Trafford).
His last 3 years have been in his best 4 in terms of average in his test career.

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Post by Prufrock » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm

He got 3 at 17.7. Think I read he's got them at 17 over the summer so can't have moved too much.

Ridiculous acheivement. Broad went past McGrath in this test too.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:58 pm

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The floodlights were on, last evening....
Yes, I know, but the umpires decisions were the criteria. I'm suggesting disband that and go automatic without it, only re the light issue of course.

Apropos of other matters, S.A.Skipper seems to be indicating they were disappointed at the amount of decisions that when't against them...Does he have a point, or just sour grapes?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:59 pm

If this was an Australian you’d never ever hear the end of it. Anderson being the quiet and unassuming bloke he is somewhat goes under the radar. He’s breaking records that nobody thought were touchable.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:24 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:58 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:29 am
The floodlights were on, last evening....
Yes, I know, but the umpires decisions were the criteria. I'm suggesting disband that and go automatic without it, only re the light issue of course.

Apropos of other matters, S.A.Skipper seems to be indicating they were disappointed at the amount of decisions that when't against them...Does he have a point, or just sour grapes?
I think it's more judgemental (than automatic decision) another automatic decision just moves the point at which someone would disagree that it should've come into play - they have an automatic decision mechanism already, but we didn't like the outcome. Last evening, should have just been a quick chat between the two Captains as to whether they both felt they wanted to try and close out the game last evening, with further periodic reviews for any material change in the light.

Course, it's not quite as straightforward than it might at first appear. Elgar (especially had it been forecast rain tomorrow) might have wanted to pack it in for the evening, and that's fair enough. There's also the possibility that England lost 4/5 quick wickets, and at that point, they might have been not quite as keen. :-)

Not sure I've heard Elgar complaining about the amount of decisions, where is that from Tango? (I mean he personally got a shocker yesterday - but he had a review he could have used and didn't) :-)

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jimbo » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:35 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm
He got 3 at 17.7. Think I read he's got them at 17 over the summer so can't have moved too much.

Ridiculous acheivement. Broad went past McGrath in this test too.
So he did! I’d missed his second wicket yesterday. His best 4 years have been 2017, 2022, 2020, 2021 in that order. Noticeably fewer wickets in recent years though due to missing games. Getting another 40 odd would still be a tough ask.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:11 pm

jimbo wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:35 pm
Prufrock wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm
He got 3 at 17.7. Think I read he's got them at 17 over the summer so can't have moved too much.

Ridiculous acheivement. Broad went past McGrath in this test too.
So he did! I’d missed his second wicket yesterday. His best 4 years have been 2017, 2022, 2020, 2021 in that order. Noticeably fewer wickets in recent years though due to missing games. Getting another 40 odd would still be a tough ask.
IF he plays 2023 and 2024 he does it. No question. Big ask to play those two years of course. However he’s going to play 2023. Would you bet against him also playing 24?

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:45 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:24 pm
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Not sure I've heard Elgar complaining about the amount of decisions, where is that from Tango? (I mean he personally got a shocker yesterday - but he had a review he could have used and didn't) :-)
From B.B.C.News Sports section on line Worthy.


"It was a massive learning curve for a lot of us, there are a lot of young guys in our batting line-up and I'm sure they've been exposed to what Test cricket is really like and what the standard is about and the intensity of play. In a sense that is positive but it is still disappointing to not get the results in our favour."
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:06 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:45 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:24 pm
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Not sure I've heard Elgar complaining about the amount of decisions, where is that from Tango? (I mean he personally got a shocker yesterday - but he had a review he could have used and didn't) :-)
From B.B.C.News Sports section on line Worthy.


"It was a massive learning curve for a lot of us, there are a lot of young guys in our batting line-up and I'm sure they've been exposed to what Test cricket is really like and what the standard is about and the intensity of play. In a sense that is positive but it is still disappointing to not get the results in our favour."
In context (I listened to his after match) I think he's on about test match results (rather than decisions/umpiring decisions) on that one TD.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jimbo » Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:39 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:11 pm
jimbo wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:35 pm
Prufrock wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm
He got 3 at 17.7. Think I read he's got them at 17 over the summer so can't have moved too much.

Ridiculous acheivement. Broad went past McGrath in this test too.
So he did! I’d missed his second wicket yesterday. His best 4 years have been 2017, 2022, 2020, 2021 in that order. Noticeably fewer wickets in recent years though due to missing games. Getting another 40 odd would still be a tough ask.
IF he plays 2023 and 2024 he does it. No question. Big ask to play those two years of course. However he’s going to play 2023. Would you bet against him also playing 24?
I’d be surprised if he did 2024. Finishing with a home Ashes would seem fitting, but who knows? He’s not slowing down and is still a key bowler.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:17 pm

jimbo wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:39 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:11 pm
jimbo wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:35 pm
Prufrock wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:42 pm
He got 3 at 17.7. Think I read he's got them at 17 over the summer so can't have moved too much.

Ridiculous acheivement. Broad went past McGrath in this test too.
So he did! I’d missed his second wicket yesterday. His best 4 years have been 2017, 2022, 2020, 2021 in that order. Noticeably fewer wickets in recent years though due to missing games. Getting another 40 odd would still be a tough ask.
IF he plays 2023 and 2024 he does it. No question. Big ask to play those two years of course. However he’s going to play 2023. Would you bet against him also playing 24?
I’d be surprised if he did 2024. Finishing with a home Ashes would seem fitting, but who knows? He’s not slowing down and is still a key bowler.
I think it’s genuinely possible. Not likely. But possible. Jimmy wouldn’t go out just because it’s the ashes I think he will go when he feels he can’t compete but right now he’s as good a bowler as anyone has. It feels a way off before that wouldn’t be the case. Injury or just him getting fed up with it changes that. I doubt that much else would change that in two years. But we have bowlers coming back fit and I guess there is just a natural point it ends.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:27 pm

Couple of things - one, Baz has said both Anderson and Broad will be in the Ashes squad.

The second bit is around the balls. I think they might have sorted out the problem and over-corrected a little, as evidenced be recent scores. You'd have been gutted as a batsman if you missed out early season. Apart from the recent very low scoring test matches, Lancy's result today V Essex

Lancs bat first - AO 131 in 40 overs
Essex bat second - AO 107 in 40 overs
Lancs bat third - AO 73 in 23 overs (having been 7-6 at one point)
Essex bat last needing 98 to win - AO 59 in 22 overs.

Crazy shit. Mind in the Glamorgan game, Lloyd hit 313, so maybe it was just a shit wicket.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:10 pm

Is anyone on here a member of LCCC? If so, is it worthwhile?
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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:28 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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Is anyone on here a member of LCCC? If so, is it worthwhile?
Used to be, but no longer am. Quick look on the website shows:
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:49 pm

Rule clarification sought please. I see that one of India's women's bowlers has pulled off the old Mankad, securing victory for them against our lot.
Now, the fact that it's a really shitty stunt to pull aside, plenty (chiefly Indians) are saying that it's perfectly legal.
Now, my understanding is that the critical point is when the bowler's front foot comes down, and from I've seen, Our non-facing batter still has her bat inside the crease at that point.
Have I got this wrong? :conf:
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