January 2023 Transfer Window
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
As a basic do you agree that if we sell a centre half we need to replace them with an equivalent type of player at centre half and if we sell Sadlier we need as a minimum RWB cover?GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:55 pmThe player Dapo has been is not the player we were worried about losing and thus the price-tag changes.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:44 pmYou also said there was no sense to selling Dapo unless we got crazy money as we’d need 3 replacement players to offer what he gives us. IIRC.
So I mean sure. You said we needed more. You also weren’t suggesting we should sell players on top of that.
I also don’t think the players you said we missed out on are really ones who we needed in the end. Barky has quality but not in this system.
We are replacing what Dapo was giving us with multiple players - oddly enough, 3.
Dapo's work down the left we're hoping will be taken up by Williams and Nlundulu, the latter being statistically more a replacement for Dapo than Baka in the final third. Through the middle we've got Shoretire.
So, again, not sure how the "post" part applies.
Not sure it is "I said" we missed out on Barky. Dunno if I said it first or not, but it's now just a fact isn't it?
I tend to agree on Barky, as it happens. I'm not sad we missed him now we're wedded to the two up top. He'd have been a good addition, but at the time I'd rather have had the players I mentioned and in Adeboyejo we're getting the type we need. Hopefully he works out, but that attacking line-up we had was never going to - as I said at the time. The club clearly knew that as well, because they tried to change it.
I view this as better late than never, but I find it really odd for you to say I'm changing my tune to suit the march.
This isn't an "I was right" thing. I could still be wrong about it all. But I'm certainly not a greased weathercock. An entirely different kind of cock maybe, but that's up to the individual to decide.
Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Honestly I'd give you 25/1+ on Johnston leaving. It would completely derail our season, so Stoke would have had to offer like £3m or something for us to consider.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:56 pmWhen we announce it is not the same as when we signed him. I’m assuming both he and Ade are done and in for tomorrow.
Stoke just signed a defender so one might assume that weakens the Johnston link a bit.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
18 month contract 
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Not necessarily, as there's some utility in the squad with Randell now in; but hopefully everyone will be happy come Tuesday.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:00 pmAs a basic do you agree that if we sell a centre half we need to replace them with an equivalent type of player at centre half and if we sell Sadlier we need as a minimum RWB cover?
Say, for argument's sake, that both Sads and John went before deadline and we got another LWB in - that'd work. Would be lighter than I'd want at the back, but we'd manage.
Centreback if Aimson goes? Yes. Not worried there, though.
I think we'll probably see a few twists in this yet, to be honest. Vultures are circling now, thinking we're open to deals.
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Not unhappy with that. No doubt we'll find out the reasoning behind an 18mth deal and no doubt some fans are going to have a fit.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Personally I'm fine with the 18 month contract, the Luton fans rate him and say that he's still quick & fit as a fiddle. It will be good for the likes of Charles & Adeboyejo (if he signs) to learn from Jerome.
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Yeah, that makes sense in terms of what I posted earlier about local stuff.
Also note that a number of the Luton folks are talking about his willingness to commit to the long term project and coaching stuff - that ties in with all the stuff that's been floating around about how things might work.
Might be a very interesting one in terms of us trying to go a bit deeper on the backroom side of things over the next couple of seasons as part of our development path.
I was iffy about a longer deal for the elder statesmen, but it's starting to make more sense now.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Photos of Jerome in the training kit at a service station (looks like) doing the rounds on twitter now.
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Could be everything you said above Ghost but also a touch of he wouldn't sign a short term deal as well. I reckon he'll possibly move into a player/coach role next season which has double benefits for sure.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Almost certainly. I'm just trying to figure it out from our side. From his it makes total sense.sonicthewhite wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:25 pmCould be everything you said above Ghost but also a touch of he wouldn't sign a short term deal as well.
It'll all come out in the wash eventually.
Right now I'm happy.
*edit* To add. My reading of it is he wanted to play on after this season and Luton weren't offering another playing contract, but did want him to transition to the backroom. Maybe here he can have both? Anyway, he's back home and happy - that can only be good news for all parties in terms of his focus.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:24 pmPhotos of Jerome in the training kit at a service station (looks like) doing the rounds on twitter now.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Don’t leak it lads 
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BBC on it now.
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I’m happy with Jerome. But it’s not necessary to completely change opinion on events. Sometimes you can say ‘look 18 months for a 36 year old is a bit iffy’. It was yesterday and still is today.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:19 pmYeah, that makes sense in terms of what I posted earlier about local stuff.
Also note that a number of the Luton folks are talking about his willingness to commit to the long term project and coaching stuff - that ties in with all the stuff that's been floating around about how things might work.
Might be a very interesting one in terms of us trying to go a bit deeper on the backroom side of things over the next couple of seasons as part of our development path.
I was iffy about a longer deal for the elder statesmen, but it's starting to make more sense now.
I like the idea much better than Eaves and he seems a good bloke and probably improves us. 18 months does seem very risky though.
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Not if he does move into a coaching role.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
Seems wise to adjust your opinion to new information, though.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:36 pmI’m happy with Jerome. But it’s not necessary to completely change opinion on events. Sometimes you can say ‘look 18 months for a 36 year old is a bit iffy’. It was yesterday and still is today.
I like the idea much better than Eaves and he seems a good bloke and probably improves us. 18 months does seem very risky though.
If it's purely a playing deal I will reserve judgement, but feel it's iffy. At this point it doesn't seem like that's the long term plan and that seems worth taking into account.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
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Yeah, that makes sense in terms of what I posted earlier about local stuff.
Also note that a number of the Luton folks are talking about his willingness to commit to the long term project and coaching stuff - that ties in with all the stuff that's been floating around about how things might work.
Might be a very interesting one in terms of us trying to go a bit deeper on the backroom side of things over the next couple of seasons as part of our development path.
I was iffy about a longer deal for the elder statesmen, but it's starting to make more sense now.
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I’m happy with Jerome. But it’s not necessary to completely change opinion on events. Sometimes you can say ‘look 18 months for a 36 year old is a bit iffy’. It was yesterday and still is today.
I like the idea much better than Eaves and he seems a good bloke and probably improves us. 18 months does seem very risky though.
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What is the risk though?
He's clearly been brought in as a short-term fix to our striker predicament - and has a decent record of scoring recently, as well as a longer term mentoring-role and potential transition into coaching.
Assuming he left Luton by mutual consent then there's no fee involved, and the board are obviously happy with the wages.
I genuinely don't see any down-side to this at all.
However, from your perspective, you've been demanding 2 strikers come in, and now it looks like this is happening, clearly you need to find the negative in it somewhere......
Yeah, that makes sense in terms of what I posted earlier about local stuff.
Also note that a number of the Luton folks are talking about his willingness to commit to the long term project and coaching stuff - that ties in with all the stuff that's been floating around about how things might work.
Might be a very interesting one in terms of us trying to go a bit deeper on the backroom side of things over the next couple of seasons as part of our development path.
I was iffy about a longer deal for the elder statesmen, but it's starting to make more sense now.
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I’m happy with Jerome. But it’s not necessary to completely change opinion on events. Sometimes you can say ‘look 18 months for a 36 year old is a bit iffy’. It was yesterday and still is today.
I like the idea much better than Eaves and he seems a good bloke and probably improves us. 18 months does seem very risky though.
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What is the risk though?
He's clearly been brought in as a short-term fix to our striker predicament - and has a decent record of scoring recently, as well as a longer term mentoring-role and potential transition into coaching.
Assuming he left Luton by mutual consent then there's no fee involved, and the board are obviously happy with the wages.
I genuinely don't see any down-side to this at all.
However, from your perspective, you've been demanding 2 strikers come in, and now it looks like this is happening, clearly you need to find the negative in it somewhere......
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
However, in terms of us trying to win a cup and go up this season - I think this is a good signing regardless of whether I do after the summer.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window
How many strikers do you think might be queueing up to do a 6 month permanent deal with us, Insano? I don't disagree it has an element of risk.
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