January 2023 Transfer Window

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:12 pm

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I’d say DJ has changed my view today. If he is LWB and RW is cover for both sides we may get away with that. And then we can focus on centre back and maybe midfield.

It’s one half but he definitely improved us beyond anything I’ve seen that side so far.
Okay. So you're now of the view that if we have John, Williams, Bradley, Izzy and flexibility in the back three you are happy?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:21 pm

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Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:12 pm
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Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:04 pm
I’d say DJ has changed my view today. If he is LWB and RW is cover for both sides we may get away with that. And then we can focus on centre back and maybe midfield.

It’s one half but he definitely improved us beyond anything I’ve seen that side so far.
Okay. So you're now of the view that if we have John, Williams, Bradley, Izzy and flexibility in the back three you are happy?
I think we need to add a proper dominant centre back to replace Aimson.

And another who is a Gethin Jones flexible wide centre half type ideally.

That would probably cover us with John back in the fold.

A midfield addition would be ideal then.

I suspect we are going to be replacing Aimson and maybe adding one of the other two.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:22 pm

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I suspect we are going to be replacing Aimson and maybe adding one of the other two.
At minimum, yeah.

I suspect we'll do more if we can move some more wages out.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:33 am

Alan Nixon says a young striker from New Zealand is being "looked at" by us. He's shown up in news stories about trials at other clubs this month. Anyone know anything about him? The New Zealand National League isn't exactly one I watch on a regular basis :conf:

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:12 am

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Alan Nixon says a young striker from New Zealand is being "looked at" by us. He's shown up in news stories about trials at other clubs this month. Anyone know anything about him? The New Zealand National League isn't exactly one I watch on a regular basis :conf:
If anyone knows anything about him they probably should be employed in football somewhere!

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:34 am

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If anyone knows anything about him they probably should be employed in football somewhere!
I'm hoping our antipodean fanbase might have heard of him.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by jmjhb » Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:49 am

One for the B team, I guess. I looked at Wikipedia and Transfermarkt and he's scored 24 in 41 first team starts which is good going whatever your age or level.

Suppose being a dual-nat helps in this instance, otherwise you'd think an A-League team would take a punt on him.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 29, 2023 11:03 am

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One for the B team, I guess. I looked at Wikipedia and Transfermarkt and he's scored 24 in 41 first team starts which is good going whatever your age or level.

Suppose being a dual-nat helps in this instance, otherwise you'd think an A-League team would take a punt on him.
There's a youtube video that looks like his agency probably made it. Big lad and not slow. No way to know anything more than that from 3 minutes of clips meant to make him look good.

You'd expect plenty of the current B-team crop to go in the summer, so hopefully we'll keep hearing about this kind of thing. There are increasingly talented players coming out of New Zealand now and they can't all end up in Scandinavia.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:21 pm

Some bods have clocked Alfie Devine liking a post about the Bolton result on Shoretire's instagram.

Worth noting they know one another regardless of Bolton interest. They've been away together with England and were both in the north west football youth circuit, where everyone knows everyone else.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Spartan2 » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:23 am

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Some bods have clocked Alfie Devine liking a post about the Bolton result on Shoretire's instagram.

Worth noting they know one another regardless of Bolton interest. They've been away together with England and were both in the north west football youth circuit, where everyone knows everyone else.
Would devine be a permanent signing or is he out of our league and just looking to loan?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:10 am

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Would devine be a permanent signing or is he out of our league and just looking to loan?
Massively out of our league as a full signing.

Spurs valued him at somewhere around £10m not long ago and he recently signed a new 5 year deal

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Prufrock » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:40 am

They spent roughly the same as our biggest signing of the past 10 years on him as a 16 year old when Wigan nearly went pop.

I think a good heuristic is probably: if we loan them and they're under 20 we probably don't have much chance of signing them permanently; if they're 22+ it's more likely a try before you buy.

He's also the one Danny Drinkwater embarrassed himself trying to pay the hard man with in an U23s game.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:47 am

Its the final countdown or something.

Sounds like priority number one is a centre half for obvious reasons.

I'm guessing if we sign 2 CB's its bad news.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by The_Gun » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:52 am

Isn't Devine an attacking midfielder? Doesn't seem a position of need for us given we've brought Shoretire in.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by sonicthewhite » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:54 am

Depends if we have anyone else lined up to leave.
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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:56 am

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Isn't Devine an attacking midfielder? Doesn't seem a position of need for us given we've brought Shoretire in.
yes he is. Guess the idea is it frees Lee to be more of an 8 than a 10. And it could also be one of those things where opportunity knocks.

Seems to me that Big Clubs tend to have more 10s than other positions. Guess it’s the kind of position a kid can impress in while young, rather than at centre-back. Centre-backs do exist, though. Didn’t one help Sunderland to promotion?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:03 am

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Isn't Devine an attacking midfielder? Doesn't seem a position of need for us given we've brought Shoretire in.
He can as I understand it play as a number 8. Which I suspect will be the idea. Or as DSB says he would let Lee be a number 8. Would give us more options.

My guess is it won’t happen but you never know. He’d really help the midfield numbers as Sheehan and MJ aren’t quite a fit for how we play now.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by The_Gun » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:05 am

If he can play deeper then it would make sense, but he's primarily a '10' then from the perspective of Spurs and the player we wouldn't be the most obvious destination for him at present.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:07 am

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He can as I understand it play as a number 8.
This is the correct assessment.

Loves a tackle, very good range of passing and quick feet. Does his off the ball work very well, as with Shoretire.

He played for Spurs' U21s against Arsenal on Friday night as an 8, which was the final test of his injury rehab. Got the green light after the game, having been watched by interested parties.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:27 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:07 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:03 am
He can as I understand it play as a number 8.
This is the correct assessment.

Loves a tackle, very good range of passing and quick feet. Does his off the ball work very well, as with Shoretire.

He played for Spurs' U21s against Arsenal on Friday night as an 8, which was the final test of his injury rehab. Got the green light after the game, having been watched by interested parties.
From the little I know he's a more combative, physical (and better) Sheehan. So that hybrid 8/10. Which makes sense for us.

For all Shoretire has looked great so far he's not been tested yet in the actual number 10 role (as in behind two strikers) with the defensive job on his hands too against a good side. He's also for me only shown glimpses as yet. He's not been asked to run a game and again he probably can but its a step or two up from the roles he's had thus far which are effectively 'make things happen'. You aren't doing that away in a play off against a top side.

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