Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Wilson’s injuries - was he unlucky last season or is he more frequently injured?

Just the one last season AFAIK, it's more that Pearson changed formation and needed more of an Andy Taylor full-back than Antonee Robinson wingback

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Ilesy talking like Wilson and (Dacres-)Cogley are DONE DEALS

"WANDERERS are set to make two exciting defensive swoops to sign Bristol City’s Kane Wilson and Tranmere’s Josh Dacres-Cogley. The Whites have been asked to pay around £100,000 for former Forest Green wing-back Wilson, who was voted League Two’s player of the year in 2022. A two-year deal is understood to be agreed with highly rated Dacres-Cogley, who came to the end of his contract at Prenton Park and had a few other options in League One."

[The_Gun]

£100k would be a bit of a bargain, no? Brizzle had to pay that much in compensation last summer, so I would have thought they'd be looking for a bit more.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

£100k would be a bit of a bargain, no? Brizzle had to pay that much in compensation last summer, so I would have thought they'd be looking for a bit more.

They broke him though

They could - to quote a recent conversation - just "cut their losses" on his remaining contract. But clearly they think we'll speculate a smallish amount on him being fit enough to be worth the risk. They get their (fee) money back, we get a player possibly worth more, he gets a new start.

Put another way – if the "six-figure" fee they asked for had been £999,999 then they'd have had him hanging around for at least another six months... as ever, it's a haggle toward happiness.

Also possible that they could ask for clauses dependent on future success/sales etc, but no mention of that. Sometimes clubs seem to prefer a nice simple cash* sum and have done with.

*Although it's by no means all paid in full up front. But it's owed to them, so it's on the balance sheet.

[GhostoftheBok]

Worth noting that sometimes selling a player is also about removing their wages from the 'outgoings' column. So if Wilson were on, say, 5k a week, then a 100k fee is worth 600k+ to Bristol over the next two years. Clubs don't tend to do finances year-by-year. It's longer term projections. That wonderful 'A' word everyone loves these days.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Aye. (That's not the word.)

Meanwhile on Twitter...

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[GhostoftheBok]

All official now. Cogley is a Wanderer.

2 years strikes me as good business.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

All official now. Cogley is a Wanderer.

2 years strikes me as good business.

When Bolton come to you, you can’t really turn them down because of the size of the club and the history. I’m really excited to be here. Bolton is such a massive club, and I can’t wait to get started now. You can sense the energy and you can see that this is a club moving forward. I wanted to be a part of that.

I’m a marauding full back who likes to get up and down the pitch to help out with assists, as well as trying to get on the score sheet so hopefully the fans will see that from me. I had a good chat with the manager not long ago and he’s seen what I can do in terms of my pace and helping the team out.

It’s been great for me to play consistently over the past few seasons, gaining that experience and learning a lot from it. I watched the Play-Offs and I also played against Bolton last season in the Papa Johns, so I had an idea on what the team is about. I want to come in and help us push even further. It’s a good opportunity for me to come here and be successful.

And in the BN write-up Iles adds:
"[Kane] Wilson looks set to sign before the weekend for a fee of around £200,000 plus add-ons"

[BWFC_Insane]

Iles in his write up on Cogley claims Wilson will sign before the weekend for a £200K fee plus add ons.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

See?

In case you were wondering, JDC wore 25 at Birmingham (and Crawley, whence he was loaned) and 2 at Tranmere. Both numbers currently claimed here - 2 by Geth, 25 by Tomo - although it's possible Tomo could move up to a smaller number - 15, perhaps?

[sonicthewhite]

Some more good business by Evatt and Markham.

[GhostoftheBok]

Iles in his write up on Cogley claims Wilson will sign before the weekend for a £200K fee plus add ons.

Seems reasonable. That'll cover the compo and the various fees they shelled out when they signed him. I wonder if "add ons" means they've asked for a sell-on.

Regardless, get it done.

Wilson is a signing for a club that wants to win the league. JDC is a signing that'd start for an "ambitious" League One club.

Good depth.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ooof nice cross post there.

I think from descriptions of Cogley and Wilson Evatt has accepted that this system requires particular qualities in wing backs. Pace, attacking ability etc…

He showed that with RW who didn’t set the world alight but has shown those qualities before and will probably come back to a higher level.

It was I think one of our bigger weaknesses and I think whilst he was an excellent all round player Bradley was a part of that problem.

[GhostoftheBok]

Ooof nice cross post there.

I think from descriptions of Cogley and Wilson Evatt has accepted that this system requires particular qualities in wing backs. Pace, attacking ability etc…

He showed that with RW who didn’t set the world alight but has shown those qualities before and will probably come back to a higher level.

It was I think one of our bigger weaknesses and I think whilst he was an excellent all round player Bradley was a part of that problem.

Cogley is more akin to Bradley, I'd suggest. Then Kane is your "winger who likes to defend" type.

Eyes to the left, now. Do we stick with Williams and John? Is Iredale a LWB if John goes? Or do we roll the dice there too?

As things stand (assuming Wilson for a moment) we are one centre back short and otherwise good to go for depth.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ooof nice cross post there.

I think from descriptions of Cogley and Wilson Evatt has accepted that this system requires particular qualities in wing backs. Pace, attacking ability etc…

He showed that with RW who didn’t set the world alight but has shown those qualities before and will probably come back to a higher level.

It was I think one of our bigger weaknesses and I think whilst he was an excellent all round player Bradley was a part of that problem.

Cogley is more akin to Bradley, I'd suggest. Then Kane is your "winger who likes to defend" type.

Eyes to the left, now. Do we stick with Williams and John? Is Iredale a LWB if John goes? Or do we roll the dice there too?

As things stand (assuming Wilson for a moment) we are one centre back short and otherwise good to go for depth.

That’s the vibe I’m getting from Cogley though he is described as rapid which might add something else too?

For me no way can Iredale play LWB. If John goes we replace him for me. Williams and John though looks ok to me with dedicated options also on the other side.

Not seeing a huge issue at the back. Include MJ (given we are linked with a number of DMs) that’s 6 players for three places. It also was the best part of our side last season.

[Prufrock]

Aye, I'm not convinced MJ would've been here if he hadn't had the auto trigger, but while ideally I'd move on John and get another LWB I'm happy enough with the back 6 now (assuming Wilson signs). The magic midfielder, 10 and a striker and we're good to go for me.

[GhostoftheBok]

Not seeing a huge issue at the back. Include MJ (given we are linked with a number of DMs) that’s 6 players for three places. It also was the best part of our side last season.

I can see why you'd feel that way.

Personally I don't think MJ is ideal as a centre back in our system (he filled in well against a slower side) and ideally I'd like another through the door there.

If the #2 defence is - John, Iredale, MJ, Jones, Cogley - I think the big question is MJ. If Santos breaks his leg I don't think anyone can genuinely cover what he offers - but there are players in the market right now who could do a job.

I'd like one.

I'd also ideally like to lose John and sign a "defender's nightmare" on the left, but we can't have it all all at once.

[The_Gun]

Without knowing the players, based on various internet write ups, I think I’m now happy with our right side.

Can’t say I’m fully happy with the left, though. Randy began to show signs that he might be a worthy starter, but he really only had two or three good games, so hard to draw too many conclusions. John has shown himself to be wildly inconsistent, but consistently poor when it comes to defending, and I’m fairly certain Evatt doesn’t have him down as a starter.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It's nice that we can have these discussions.

Considering we've done the No.1 slot and now the No.2, it makes sense to look at No.3 next...

I would hope we can swap John for someone better, or perhaps more accurately "more reliable".

Said before I have my doubts on Iredale as LWB - prefer him at LCB – but I can see him as the "solid" option. Interesting that if Wilson arrives, Geth would be third-choice 'safety' RWB - I can see Iredale as the same on the left, ideally.

However, we only have so much money (and, to an extent, so many squad places). MJ's renewal offers us some cover in two positions and I can imagine us settling for that. I still think Toal is supposed to be the Santos cover but as I say he needs to get better on the ball. He has it in his locker to join in up top - see that lovely goal he scored against Pompey at the North Stand end - but he needs a better passing radar.

Because we do still need to save some pennies for blokes further forward... although I suspect those signings may come somewhat later.

[BWFC_Insane]

Not seeing a huge issue at the back. Include MJ (given we are linked with a number of DMs) that’s 6 players for three places. It also was the best part of our side last season.

I can see why you'd feel that way.

Personally I don't think MJ is ideal as a centre back in our system (he filled in well against a slower side) and ideally I'd like another through the door there.

If the #2 defence is - John, Iredale, MJ, Jones, Cogley - I think the big question is MJ. If Santos breaks his leg I don't think anyone can genuinely cover what he offers - but there are players in the market right now who could do a job.

I'd like one.

I'd also ideally like to lose John and sign a "defender's nightmare" on the left, but we can't have it all all at once.

Toal would play there and Jones at right. But question is can we carry a ‘Santos cover’ better than Toal or MJ? I suspect not.