Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:56 pm

Kane Wilson joins Derby, and now I’m in the uncomfortable position of having to hate a player I wanted us to sign. Mind, I got used to it with Barkhuizen.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:03 pm

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Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:56 pm
Kane Wilson joins Derby, and now I’m in the uncomfortable position of having to hate a player I wanted us to sign. Mind, I got used to it with Barkhuizen.
Yup. Mildly gutted about that one. Hard to imagine we'll get the same level of player down that side and Derby have hoovered up arguable the two best right-siders in the market at this level. There are obviously players who can match and exceed that level, but attracting them to League One is a tough gig.

I'd like to know why the deal fell apart. They will get a huge amount of stick over the next few days. Hopefully it's not deserved.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:08 pm

There's a lot of goodbyes going on regarding MJ. Not seen anything official. Would seem legit, but I would've thought as a fanbase we wouldn't be this quick to write his goodbyes.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:11 pm

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Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:08 pm
There's a lot of goodbyes going on regarding MJ. Not seen anything official. Would seem legit, but I would've thought as a fanbase we wouldn't be this quick to write his goodbyes.
Pete O’Rourke is a strong source and the tone of Ilesy’s reporting suggests he’s hearing no denial.

Deals can collapse - we’ve seen that recently - but this one rings true.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:17 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:03 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:56 pm
Kane Wilson joins Derby, and now I’m in the uncomfortable position of having to hate a player I wanted us to sign. Mind, I got used to it with Barkhuizen.
Yup. Mildly gutted about that one. Hard to imagine we'll get the same level of player down that side and Derby have hoovered up arguable the two best right-siders in the market at this level. There are obviously players who can match and exceed that level, but attracting them to League One is a tough gig.

I'd like to know why the deal fell apart. They will get a huge amount of stick over the next few days. Hopefully it's not deserved.
End of the day you’d have to be worried if we can’t sign someone as good or better. Primarily because it was a key position and he was clearly a major target and we pulled out. So it’s a test of judgement.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:17 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:03 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:56 pm
Kane Wilson joins Derby, and now I’m in the uncomfortable position of having to hate a player I wanted us to sign. Mind, I got used to it with Barkhuizen.
Yup. Mildly gutted about that one. Hard to imagine we'll get the same level of player down that side and Derby have hoovered up arguable the two best right-siders in the market at this level. There are obviously players who can match and exceed that level, but attracting them to League One is a tough gig.

I'd like to know why the deal fell apart. They will get a huge amount of stick over the next few days. Hopefully it's not deserved.
No fee was what I read, but with some chunky sell on clauses...I think that'll resonate with popular acclaim amongst the Wanderers fan base...

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:20 pm

Bristol saying undisclosed fee, Derby saying undisclosed agreement. Derby also soon to sell Jason Knight to Bristol.

Bolton will get some shit over this, so it’ll be interesting to see what’s said. Journos will be asking Evatt how he feels to see a target join a rival. This time last year he was being derided for saying Bradley was better than Fossey…

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:21 pm

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Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:17 pm
No fee was what I read, but with some chunky sell on clauses...I think that'll resonate with popular acclaim amongst the Wanderers fan base...
I believe the suggestion is that fees were waved as part of the agreement taking Knight the other way, but for accounting purposes they are two separate deals.

No idea if that's correct, though.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:22 pm

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Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:17 pm
End of the day you’d have to be worried if we can’t sign someone as good or better. Primarily because it was a key position and he was clearly a major target and we pulled out. So it’s a test of judgement.
Absolutely. You live and die by these calls.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:24 pm

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Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:20 pm
Bristol saying undisclosed fee, Derby saying undisclosed agreement. Derby also soon to sell Jason Knight to Bristol.

Bolton will get some shit over this, so it’ll be interesting to see what’s said. Journos will be asking Evatt how he feels to see a target join a rival. This time last year he was being derided for saying Bradley was better than Fossey…
Derby's fans will have a field day, certainly. A load of our lot gave it the big I am when we were close to signing him, so it'll be deserved.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by brommers95 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:27 am

And now Regan Poole joins Portsmouth. Our rivals strengthening massively - we need some quality players in soon to keep up.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:08 am

brommers95 wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:27 am
And now Regan Poole joins Portsmouth. Our rivals strengthening massively - we need some quality players in soon to keep up.
Don’t panic! :wink:

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:57 am

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Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:27 am
And now Regan Poole joins Portsmouth. Our rivals strengthening massively - we need some quality players in soon to keep up.
Last summer I looked in turn at each of our promotion rivals’ summer deals - it’s where I stopped worrying about MK and Wycombe. I’ll try to do a granular look again in a couple of weeks - still four weeks to season kick-off - but from what I’ve noticed, Pompey have built strongly under a manager who started well for them. Add in Derby throwing the cheques around again and I know where you’re coming from, Brommers.

I’m hoping MJ->MK implies a signing is near, rather than just an opportunistic sale. (He’s been good but would probably be in the top three or five most expendable players in a squad looking to go up.)

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:05 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:57 am
brommers95 wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:27 am
And now Regan Poole joins Portsmouth. Our rivals strengthening massively - we need some quality players in soon to keep up.
Last summer I looked in turn at each of our promotion rivals’ summer deals - it’s where I stopped worrying about MK and Wycombe. I’ll try to do a granular look again in a couple of weeks - still four weeks to season kick-off - but from what I’ve noticed, Pompey have built strongly under a manager who started well for them. Add in Derby throwing the cheques around again and I know where you’re coming from, Brommers.

I’m hoping MJ->MK implies a signing is near, rather than just an opportunistic sale. (He’s been good but would probably be in the top three or five most expendable players in a squad looking to go up.)
Charlton potentially too. May. Dabo linked.

The warning signs have been jangling a while for us. Deals breaking down in strange ways. Dabo our top target but we didn't like the wages. Wilson passed a medical (I'm told reliably) was about to have photos and scarf pics - suddenly off. Baccus similar.

I don't know what is going on but I'd say this is more than just 'the usual summer hiccups'.

I think its one thing Wilson being deemed too expensive another when he signs for an obvious rival for promotion.

I feels not that different to last summer. And January didn't compensate either. I'm not convinced we have got much stronger since we started last season and arguably are weaker with Dapo, Bradley and Trafford gone.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by brommers95 » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:12 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:08 am
brommers95 wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:27 am
And now Regan Poole joins Portsmouth. Our rivals strengthening massively - we need some quality players in soon to keep up.
Don’t panic! :wink:
Haha not quite there yet, I think I've just ticked into 'ever so slightly concerned' territory.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:28 am

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Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:12 am


I think I've just ticked into 'ever so slightly concerned' territory.
I think a lot of us may join you. Worrying.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by HMX » Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:57 am

There has to be another CB/ flexible DM coming in soon, right?

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:03 am

HMX wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:57 am
There has to be another CB/ flexible DM coming in soon, right?
I think we need a more mobile midfielder in the MJ mould but who can get round the park more.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:04 am

HMX wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:57 am
There has to be another CB/ flexible DM coming in soon, right?
You'd imagine we'd need a complete understanding of Johnston's injury before we'd know how to respond in the market.

The moves you'd make to cover 3 months, 6 months or the whole season out would probably be different from one another.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:09 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:04 am
HMX wrote:
Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:57 am
There has to be another CB/ flexible DM coming in soon, right?
You'd imagine we'd need a complete understanding of Johnston's injury before we'd know how to respond in the market.

The moves you'd make to cover 3 months, 6 months or the whole season out would probably be different from one another.
Yes. Though I think season long is quite likely. But the midfield doesn't and shouldn't wait for that.

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