Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:16 am

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I don’t like doing this as he’s not signed but looking at stats it’s also pretty hard to tell which position is his best.
That's what he needs from a coach and it'll be a mark of Evatt and Markham's abilities if they get that right. Can they find him a mainstay role in which he thrives?

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:17 am

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I think it's interesting to pick up stuff on the rumour mill, but I still don't count anyone as signed until I see PSG..
Absolutely 100%, just posting information others are saying. Personally I'd rather hear some rumours of potential signings as opposed to nothing at all. To be honest even if we do sign CMG it doesn't particularly excite me as its another player with very limited championship experience.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:32 am

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Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:17 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:12 am
I think it's interesting to pick up stuff on the rumour mill, but I still don't count anyone as signed until I see PSG..
Absolutely 100%, just posting information others are saying. Personally I'd rather hear some rumours of potential signings as opposed to nothing at all. To be honest even if we do sign CMG it doesn't particularly excite me as its another player with very limited championship experience.
Fair, Bertie. That's what the transfer rumour thread is all about, mate. I'd probably have him as decent, but would be interested to work out where he will fit into our notional starting XI, rather than where he could play. Both he and the West Brom lad have had about 15 positions each mentioned. But I'd like them to be really good at one of them...

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:42 am

As an aside Bertie, we could be surprised, but I'm not currently envisaging anyone with 150 Champo games under their belt, crossing the whitewash. Dack's on about 84, but only about 20 starts in the last three years..

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:45 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:16 am
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Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:06 am
I don’t like doing this as he’s not signed but looking at stats it’s also pretty hard to tell which position is his best.
That's what he needs from a coach and it'll be a mark of Evatt and Markham's abilities if they get that right. Can they find him a mainstay role in which he thrives?
Given he does well in a few positions I see it as a positive. Adds flexibility. We don’t need to necessarily define him.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:45 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:42 am
As an aside Bertie, we could be surprised, but I'm not currently envisaging anyone with 150 Champo games under their belt, crossing the whitewash. Dack's on about 84, but only about 20 starts in the last three years..
Dack's on 156 Championship appearances, isn't he? With 167 total appearances for Blackburn.

Or have I given a load of League One appearances as Champ ones?

*edit* I have indeed given him a load of League One appearances as Championship games. He's apparently on 116 Championship appearances and 167 total, with 57 goals.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:48 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:45 am
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Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:42 am
As an aside Bertie, we could be surprised, but I'm not currently envisaging anyone with 150 Champo games under their belt, crossing the whitewash. Dack's on about 84, but only about 20 starts in the last three years..
Dack's on 156 Championship appearances, isn't he? With 167 total appearances for Blackburn.
Sorry. Starts...rather than appearances. Aye.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:50 am

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Sorry. Starts...rather than appearances. Aye.
I was also wrong.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:55 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:50 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:48 am
Sorry. Starts...rather than appearances. Aye.
I was also wrong.
Yeah one season was L1? The point I'm making is of his 80ish starts over 5 years. 40 of them were 5 years back, from memory 20 were 4 years ago, leaving 20 in three years

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:05 am

Jack Hunt's had 268 second-tier starts but the reaction to his name was more underwhelmage...

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:07 am

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Yeah one season was L1? The point I'm making is of his 80ish starts over 5 years. 40 of them were 5 years back, from memory 20 were 4 years ago, leaving 20 in three years
Absolutely. He's had a woeful time since he did his knee.

If we could get 25-30 games a season out of him he'd be well worth having, but I think he's a stretch.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:07 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:55 am
Yeah one season was L1? The point I'm making is of his 80ish starts over 5 years. 40 of them were 5 years back, from memory 20 were 4 years ago, leaving 20 in three years
Absolutely. He's had a woeful time since he did his knee.

If we could get 25-30 games a season out of him he'd be well worth having, but I think he's a stretch.
Indeed, much as I admired Lee's ability, I wouldn't say he was the beating heart of the team. I think maybe some folks are maybe hoping for at least one who's more akin to a Bannan type...

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:20 am

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Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:05 am
Jack Hunt's had 268 second-tier starts but the reaction to his name was more underwhelmage...
Evatt looks to be building the kind of set-up he talked about a couple of years ago as "ideal."

We're working towards an experienced player in every positions, plus a younger player competing with them. A minimal number of veterans for experience and then a B Team set up feeding new youngsters in.

It'll be interesting to see if that continues.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:28 am

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Indeed, much as I admired Lee's ability, I wouldn't say he was the beating heart of the team. I think maybe some folks are maybe hoping for at least one who's more akin to a Bannan type...
If we bring in a Dack or CMG type creative number 10, then midfield wise I'm really hoping for an experienced physical, energetic ball winning type (a better MJ Williams), I don't think we can accommodate a Bannan playmaker type in our system, although I certainly wouldn't say no !

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:30 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 am
Indeed, much as I admired Lee's ability, I wouldn't say he was the beating heart of the team. I think maybe some folks are maybe hoping for at least one who's more akin to a Bannan type...
That level of experience, quality and continual availability is going to be tough to find on a League One budget.

Probably worth remembering Bannan earns 3x as much as our top earners.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:44 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:30 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 am
Indeed, much as I admired Lee's ability, I wouldn't say he was the beating heart of the team. I think maybe some folks are maybe hoping for at least one who's more akin to a Bannan type...
That level of experience, quality and continual availability is going to be tough to find on a League One budget.

Probably worth remembering Bannan earns 3x as much as our top earners.
Yup. I know that. :-)

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:03 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:28 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:13 am

Indeed, much as I admired Lee's ability, I wouldn't say he was the beating heart of the team. I think maybe some folks are maybe hoping for at least one who's more akin to a Bannan type...
If we bring in a Dack or CMG type creative number 10, then midfield wise I'm really hoping for an experienced physical, energetic ball winning type (a better MJ Williams), I don't think we can accommodate a Bannan playmaker type in our system, although I certainly wouldn't say no !
Agree mate, we still need one there..

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:33 pm

So is Mendes Gomes another in the line of ‘done announced today’ then not announced and disappears?

Certainly something doesn’t feel too right.

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by truewhite15 » Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:34 pm

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So is Mendes Gomes another in the line of ‘done announced today’ then not announced and disappears?

Certainly something doesn’t feel too right.
Didn't you say last night that you DIDN'T want to hear about stuff that hasn't happened yet?

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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:37 pm

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Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:33 pm
So is Mendes Gomes another in the line of ‘done announced today’ then not announced and disappears?

Certainly something doesn’t feel too right.
Relax man - hopefully its been done, if not CMG isn't going to make or break our season.

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