Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window

[GhostoftheBok]

Where I am I think is we just don’t have a natural finisher.

I actually agree with this. I think they finish well, but they have enough in their all-round game that if they were top class finishers they'd not be in League One. That goes for all of them.

We could probably get a better pure finisher in, but he'd be unlikely to offer the rest of what Evatt needs.

Let's see how the lads we have do over the first dozen or so games.

[KeyserSoze]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... tt-8668700

George Thomason linked to Bristol City.

[Mar]

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George Thomason linked to Bristol City.

Thomason reminds me of the situation we had with Chris Basham. Youth player breaking through, unexpected rise and surprised a few folk. Him being eligible as an U21 player meant we didnt have to register him as a player. Perhaps now he's 22 it means that decision needs to be made.

I think it's probably good business for him to go elsewhere. I struggle to see him being first choice here. I like him as a player, but I can't imagine he'd be wanting to be playing second fiddle here or at Bristol City for that matter. Financially its probably what the club intends to do with youth talent, train and sell.

[boltonboris]

Well that's what we're signing these players for. Bring them in, develop them, move them on at a substantial profit

I like him and I think he's promising, but he's not someone I think we can't be without

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It's a big vote of confidence in him. The Robins have been consistently good at identifying tier-three players that can step up.

Maybe Keith Hill did know his onions.

[BWFC_Insane]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... tt-8668700

George Thomason linked to Bristol City.

Thomason reminds me of the situation we had with Chris Basham. Youth player breaking through, unexpected rise and surprised a few folk. Him being eligible as an U21 player meant we didnt have to register him as a player. Perhaps now he's 22 it means that decision needs to be made.

I think it's probably good business for him to go elsewhere. I struggle to see him being first choice here. I like him as a player, but I can't imagine he'd be wanting to be playing second fiddle here or at Bristol City for that matter. Financially its probably what the club intends to do with youth talent, train and sell.

From what I’ve seen this far I’d rather have Thomason than Sheehan. More versatile.

[jmjhb]

All our players have a price. See what they offer, if the link is real.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

From what I’ve seen this far I’d rather have Thomason than Sheehan. More versatile.

Would you rather have Sheehan +£250k?
How about +£500k?
Or a fee and a sell-on percentage?

I don't know what George is worth, and I don't know what I'd sell him for. But he has more (sorry Tango) resale value than Sheehan, who's 29 this season. I'm with Boris here - I like GT as a player and a man (he's put in fantastic efforts to keep raising his game), but I don't think it'd hole us below the waterline to lose him.

[BWFC_Insane]

From what I’ve seen this far I’d rather have Thomason than Sheehan. More versatile.

Would you rather have Sheehan +£250k?
How about +£500k?
Or a fee and a sell-on percentage?

I don't know what George is worth, and I don't know what I'd sell him for. But he has more (sorry Tango) resale value than Sheehan, who's 29 this season. I'm with Boris here - I like GT as a player and a man (he's put in fantastic efforts to keep raising his game), but I don't think it'd hole us below the waterline to lose him.

Obviously there is a price for anyone. The question will be what we can replace him with. For me. And obviously what money we get for him. We certainly can’t use Sheehan in all games because hes a bit too soft. So it would mean needing to replace Thomason. That’s the judgment call isn’t it. What we could replace him with how much that would cost and how much we’d save.

The thing is I can’t see him being on huge wages. So when we bandy numbers about it needs factoring in that a replacement is likely going to net cost more….

I’d say £1M is where I’d be looking given BC are rich - I doubt we have a pressing need to sell him, doubt he will agitate away for a move and such an amount would I think allow us to upgrade on him whilst still putting some in the kitty.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

From what I’ve seen this far I’d rather have Thomason than Sheehan. More versatile.

Would you rather have Sheehan +£250k?
How about +£500k?
Or a fee and a sell-on percentage?

I don't know what George is worth, and I don't know what I'd sell him for. But he has more (sorry Tango) resale value than Sheehan, who's 29 this season. I'm with Boris here - I like GT as a player and a man (he's put in fantastic efforts to keep raising his game), but I don't think it'd hole us below the waterline to lose him.

Obviously there is a price for anyone. The question will be what we can replace him with. For me. And obviously what money we get for him. We certainly can’t use Sheehan in all games because hes a bit too soft. So it would mean needing to replace Thomason. That’s the judgment call isn’t it. What we could replace him with how much that would cost and how much we’d save.

The thing is I can’t see him being on huge wages. So when we bandy numbers about it needs factoring in that a replacement is likely going to net cost more….

I’d say £1M is where I’d be looking given BC are rich - I doubt we have a pressing need to sell him, doubt he will agitate away for a move and such an amount would I think allow us to upgrade on him whilst still putting some in the kitty.

Can't argue with that, although I doubt they'd pay it.

Need to factor in that we are of course ROLLING IN IT after emptying fans' piggy banks.

Have to say though, looking around at Prem clubs' older academy lads and there's a couple of 6/8 players who I think we could pick up for not much at all. Possible we could sell Tomo, pick up his replacement on an Ashworth-style loan-to-end-of-contract and end up with the cash *and* a similarly good player.

I mean, at Leeds alone there's these two:
• Lewis Bate (28/10/02) - 6/8 midfielder who played 35 times for Oxford last season; was their player of the month for January. In December Karl Robinson said "he’s one of the best players I’ve ever worked with. This boy is a magician" – but six weeks later Robinson was sacked and soon after a broken hand ended Bate's season. New Leeds boss Farke played him for a pre-season half v the Rags but he's drifted out since. Last year of his contract and Leeds guru Phil Hay expects him gone, on loan or permanently.
• Jamie Shackleton (8/10/99) - 37 games at Millwall last season, neatly split between 6, 8 and right midfield; has also played right-back. Energetic player. Last year of contract, and opinions differ as to whether he'll be at Leeds for it.

[BWFC_Insane]

From what I’ve seen this far I’d rather have Thomason than Sheehan. More versatile.

Would you rather have Sheehan +£250k?
How about +£500k?
Or a fee and a sell-on percentage?

I don't know what George is worth, and I don't know what I'd sell him for. But he has more (sorry Tango) resale value than Sheehan, who's 29 this season. I'm with Boris here - I like GT as a player and a man (he's put in fantastic efforts to keep raising his game), but I don't think it'd hole us below the waterline to lose him.

Obviously there is a price for anyone. The question will be what we can replace him with. For me. And obviously what money we get for him. We certainly can’t use Sheehan in all games because hes a bit too soft. So it would mean needing to replace Thomason. That’s the judgment call isn’t it. What we could replace him with how much that would cost and how much we’d save.

The thing is I can’t see him being on huge wages. So when we bandy numbers about it needs factoring in that a replacement is likely going to net cost more….

I’d say £1M is where I’d be looking given BC are rich - I doubt we have a pressing need to sell him, doubt he will agitate away for a move and such an amount would I think allow us to upgrade on him whilst still putting some in the kitty.

Can't argue with that, although I doubt they'd pay it.

Need to factor in that we are of course ROLLING IN IT after emptying fans' piggy banks.

Have to say though, looking around at Prem clubs' older academy lads and there's a couple of 6/8 players who I think we could pick up for not much at all. Possible we could sell Tomo, pick up his replacement on an Ashworth-style loan-to-end-of-contract and end up with the cash *and* a similarly good player.

I mean, at Leeds alone there's these two:
• Lewis Bate (28/10/02) - 6/8 midfielder who played 35 times for Oxford last season; was their player of the month for January. In December Karl Robinson said "he’s one of the best players I’ve ever worked with. This boy is a magician" – but six weeks later Robinson was sacked and soon after a broken hand ended Bate's season. New Leeds boss Farke played him for a pre-season half v the Rags but he's drifted out since. Last year of his contract and Leeds guru Phil Hay expects him gone, on loan or permanently.
• Jamie Shackleton (8/10/99) - 37 games at Millwall last season, neatly split between 6, 8 and right midfield; has also played right-back. Energetic player. Last year of contract, and opinions differ as to whether he'll be at Leeds for it.

The issue is that these sorts of players tend to be on a lot of money compared to what we are paying and unless they are desperate/sensible enough to trade that for playing time or are loaned with a subsidy from their parent club end up being very expensive.

I heard on the grapevine of one such deal deal (not for us) that a local club looked at and it was eye watering.

I don’t think BC will pay £1M either but that’s where I’d pitch it. If they paid it - great. If not - we carry on.

But I think Evatt and Markham will know what it would cost to replace him and who their target would be and how gettable they would be so I guess we let them sort it.

It’s slightly strange really as I don’t really see GT as being quite ready for the championship on a regular basis yet.

But I’m also sick of selling our players for what seems to be relatively low market value. Let’s screw someone for a change.

[Bertie Wooster]

Min £1M plus add ones for GT, plus they have to take Jerome.

GT has potential, he's nowhere near the finished article but shows glimpses of what could be - but if the club accept less then £1M then they need seriously questioning. Its not worth us selling for less IMO

[The_Gun]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... tt-8668700

George Thomason linked to Bristol City.

Given he’s not even a starter for us, I really struggle to see this one happening. That said, if Bristol are interested then we’re in a strong position, and I think could reasonably ask for £1m+

[Prufrock]

I'd rip their legs off. I love his vibe and he's a fine squad player but I'm not convinced he's even a league one player. Cash in hand? Cheers.

[irie Cee Bee]

I'd rip their legs off. I love his vibe and he's a fine squad player but I'm not convinced he's even a league one player. Cash in hand? Cheers.

I hope City believes you Pru and go look elsewhere.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd rip their legs off. I love his vibe and he's a fine squad player but I'm not convinced he's even a league one player. Cash in hand? Cheers.

I know Evatt thinks he’s outstanding and now Bristol are looking. Perhaps we are wrong?

[Harry Genshaw]

There's definitely a player there and he seems to be getting better. I'm not sure I trust him more than any of our current midfield but that's more me as he's never let us down, despite his limited time in the side.

I'd not take any less than £1m and 15% sell on fee

[officer_dibble]

I’ve honestly no idea what GT is worth, but 1/100th of that fella from Brighton at a similar age sounds light!

[Prufrock]

I'd rip their legs off. I love his vibe and he's a fine squad player but I'm not convinced he's even a league one player. Cash in hand? Cheers.

I know Evatt thinks he’s outstanding and now Bristol are looking. Perhaps we are wrong?

It's certainly possible, I'm not writing him off completely I just personally think it's unlikely he's good enough to play much higher and so would take the cash. If he stays I hope he proves me wrong!

[boltonboris]

I notice something he does a lot. Like every game.. He misjudges where the ball is when he tries to control it, leans back and falls over. Once he's on the deck, he's out of the game.

Honestly watch it. He's brave though, combative and can move. Defo got a future, but he's quite easily replaceable

His workrate and attitude will mean he has a good career