Division Three, 2024/25

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Wycombe media department trolling Steve Evans. Lovely.

(Rotherham yet to score from three league games. Also lovely.)

[GhostoftheBok]

Rotherham have thrown a team together in preseason and it'll take time to gel.

But hey, excuses...

[Bertie Wooster]

Rotherham have thrown a team together in preseason and it'll take time to gel.

But hey, excuses...

Ghost which bit can't you get - we had 9 starters from last season, hardly throwing a team together. You keep trying to defend the undefendable.

[GhostoftheBok]

Ghost which bit can't you get - we had 9 starters from last season, hardly throwing a team together. You keep trying to defend the undefendable.

ROTHERHAM, Bertie. Keep up, lad.

[Bertie Wooster]

Ghost which bit can't you get - we had 9 starters from last season, hardly throwing a team together. You keep trying to defend the undefendable.

ROTHERHAM, Bertie. Keep up, lad.

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

[GhostoftheBok]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

[truewhite15]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

Tremendous.

Whole lot of broken clocks in here. Even when/if Evatt goes, it won't be long until the same esteemed members are bleating on about the new boss..

[BWFC_Insane]

[media][/media]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

Evatt already has failed. Last two seasons. It’s irrelevant whether or not he keeps his job in terms of a discussion of his performance.

[DJBlu]

[media][/media]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

Evatt already has failed. Last two seasons. It’s irrelevant whether or not he keeps his job in terms of a discussion of his performance.

Yawn.

You're as bad as those reds down the road.

[BWFC_Insane]

[media][/media]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

Evatt already has failed. Last two seasons. It’s irrelevant whether or not he keeps his job in terms of a discussion of his performance.

Yawn.

You're as bad as those reds down the road.

I’ve gone most weeks for the best part of four decades. When we were a premiership side there were people screaming for new managers every other week and apart from the disastrous Coyle I was not one. Because Bolton wanderers being in the premiership is not that common and we were achieving things even in just staying up. The moaning about that was nonsensical.

However, Bolton wanderers in league one is equally rare and spending this length down here I don’t think is something that is suggestive of good management.

A year at Sunderland in league one and you are a disgrace of a manager for their fans.

Four years into the fifth at Bolton is I think well beyond the point where it’s reasonable to be very very critical.

But that’s my take. I don’t think we have a ‘divine right’ to go up I do think and am certain in this view that as with Coyle we are wasting time (and my time on this earth) with a manager who has had more chances than he’d get anywhere else. I’ve had enough - sorry but that’s where I was last season and nothing has changed.

People wanted managers out at Bolton for vastly superior performance to league one and stuck!

[Worthy4England]

Yes I know, it was the hey excuses....comment that I was responding to which appeared to to be linked to previous discussions about BWFC / Evatt.

Other clubs have reasons and we have excuses. I get it. Don't fret. I've been on this forum for a while now, I know the drill.

Evatt's football got found out years ago and he'd never kick on. We can't play our style and get promoted, I mean stay up, I mean get into the play offs, I mean...

Don't worry, it'll come right eventually. Maybe this season the total failure and sacking that's been just around the corner since he arrived will show up.

Until then it's all just excuses. As it has been for 4 years. The same old excuses...and just because they've consistently turned out to be reasons that have predicted outcomes doesn't mean they're not just excuses now.

Keep the faith.

All football ends in failure eventually. Almost all managers get sacked. So close this time...

Plus, after being wrong for years some people might get to claim they were right all along. Rico can go back to being a pub player. Evatt can be out of his depth and hated by the players. Maybe Dion can be way below the required level again...he's only scored one this season. After all, Sheehan's gone from PotY and TofY to useless again in 3 games. There's hope for them all.

I agree that I'm the one that refuses to acknowledge reality and doesn't get it.

The reality is we were the "best team in the League" three seasons ago. With the surefire best way of playing football - the key differentiator. What did we finish behind "lower budget" Plymouth? Was it 20-odd points? What we're now getting is reasons not excuses. Of course we are. And they're not the same...apart from just the other way around, depending on your perspective...

[Prufrock]

We weren't though. If you're judging Evatt by the bullshit he's come out with at times, no question he's a failure.

I don't think that's a sensible yardstick though. We were a newly promoted team with a good start and an overconfident manager.

[GhostoftheBok]

The reality is we were the "best team in the League" three seasons ago. With the surefire best way of playing football - the key differentiator. What did we finish behind "lower budget" Plymouth? Was it 20-odd points? What we're now getting is reasons not excuses. Of course we are. And they're not the same...apart from just the other way around, depending on your perspective...

Didn't realise I was responsible for Evatt's pronouncements. Interesting.

Your Plymouth example, which you've gone to a few times now, doesn't actually do what you think it does.

If you really want to get into that we can.

[BWFC_Insane]

The reality is we were the "best team in the League" three seasons ago. With the surefire best way of playing football - the key differentiator. What did we finish behind "lower budget" Plymouth? Was it 20-odd points? What we're now getting is reasons not excuses. Of course we are. And they're not the same...apart from just the other way around, depending on your perspective...

Didn't realise I was responsible for Evatt's pronouncements. Interesting.

Your Plymouth example, which you've gone to a few times now, doesn't actually do what you think it does.

If you really want to get into that we can.

You told me in 22/23 season not to worry, that we were a year behind Plymouth and we’d replicate their success the season after….

Maybe we should get into that,..though I suspect a whole bag of ‘reasons’ won’t be very enlightening!

[Worthy4England]

The reality is we were the "best team in the League" three seasons ago. With the surefire best way of playing football - the key differentiator. What did we finish behind "lower budget" Plymouth? Was it 20-odd points? What we're now getting is reasons not excuses. Of course we are. And they're not the same...apart from just the other way around, depending on your perspective...

Didn't realise I was responsible for Evatt's pronouncements. Interesting.

Your Plymouth example, which you've gone to a few times now, doesn't actually do what you think it does.

If you really want to get into that we can.

Have you got a persecution complex? Our best team in the League is just an example of some bullshit we've heard, which I didn't attribute to you.

I was happy to accept building for the Champo two seasons back and last year near miss, completely out-thought a lot less so. Now I'm bored of the longest set of reasons I think I've heard outside of Y4 on homework day - don't think we've had "No, the dog really did eat my gameplan," yet. Happy to hear the mysteries of Plymouth (or Pompey last year with an injury list of 10? Was it from Jan). Masters of feeling sorry for ourselves in the finest traditions of the world's against us - we'd walk that league.

Whilst I was happy to say we looked solid against a promoted team at home, we still didn't win and I'd struggle to make the case that we were unfortunate.

[Worthy4England]

The reality is we were the "best team in the League" three seasons ago. With the surefire best way of playing football - the key differentiator. What did we finish behind "lower budget" Plymouth? Was it 20-odd points? What we're now getting is reasons not excuses. Of course we are. And they're not the same...apart from just the other way around, depending on your perspective...

Didn't realise I was responsible for Evatt's pronouncements. Interesting.

Your Plymouth example, which you've gone to a few times now, doesn't actually do what you think it does.

If you really want to get into that we can.

You told me in 22/23 season not to worry, that we were a year behind Plymouth and we’d replicate their success the season after….

Maybe we should get into that,..though I suspect a whole bag of ‘reasons’ won’t be very enlightening!

Yup, Jan was it? Going up as Champs?

[GhostoftheBok]

You told me in 22/23 season not to worry, that we were a year behind Plymouth and we’d replicate their success the season after….

Maybe we should get into that,..though I suspect a whole bag of ‘reasons’ won’t be very enlightening!

Glad to know I wasn't dreaming and did say this at the time.

As I said, last season was a failure in the end.

We tracked almost exactly a year behind Plymouth. Their January kept them going to a title. In our January we had what looked like a decent window, but one which turned out to be really weird. We fell away. I'm not sure how much closer you can get to that model than losing in a play-off final after being one result off promotion in the regular season.

I feel like we already went over all this, but we can do it again if you like. For the sake of everyone, including ourselves, maybe not?

[GhostoftheBok]

Have you got a persecution complex?

Why do you ask that? Are you out to get me?

[GhostoftheBok]

Yup, Jan was it? Going up as Champs?

There was definitely a time last season where I thought we were more likely than not to win the league. Not sure it was January. November?

[Worthy4England]

Lot of words to say "we didn't achieve our objective." We failed would have covered it.

And no, I'm certainly not out to get you.